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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. To the motion. Question has been called. Recorded vote has been requested. All those in favour, please rise.

Clerk Of The House

Mr. Allooloo, Mr. Ningark, Mr. Pollard, Ms. Cournoyea, Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Morin, Mr. Whitford, Mr. Patterson, Mr. Pudluk, Mr. Arvaluk, Mr. Pudlat, Mr. Dent, Ms. Mike, Mr. Zoe, Mr. Koe, Mr. Todd, Mr. Bernhardt, Mr. Lewis.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

All those opposed, please rise. Those abstaining, please rise.

Clerk Of The House

Mrs. Marie-Jewell, Mr. Gargan, Mr. Antoine.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

The motion is carried. Eighteen affirmative, none opposed, three abstentions.

---Carried

Motions. Mr. Kakfwi.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to proceed with my motion today concerning the terms of reference of the special committee on constitutional reform.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Unanimous consent has been requested. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed, Mr. Kakfwi.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker:

WHEREAS the Legislative Assembly has established by Motion 17-12(1) the special committee on constitutional reform;

AND WHEREAS, after consultation, the special committee has prepared its terms of reference;

AND WHEREAS it is required by Rule 95(2) that the terms of reference of all special committees shall be approved by the Assembly;

NOW THEREFORE, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, that the following terms of reference for the special committee on constitutional reform be approved:

The special committee on constitutional reform may on its own authority:

1) review proposals for constitutional and institutional reform as outlined in the Government of Canada's document entitled "Shaping Canada's Future Together" and any additional national, federal, provincial, territorial and non-governmental materials, and any other related matters;

2) undertake or request any legal or economic analysis necessary to assist this committee in the development of recommendations for the Legislative Assembly on matters relating to the substance and processes for constitutional and institutional reform;

3) undertake such consultations, discussions or meetings that are necessary with such national, federal, provincial or territorial bodies that have responsibility to consider constitutional and institutional reform in Canada;

4) Undertake such consultations, discussions or meetings that are necessary with national, federal, provincial or territorial bodies that have responsibility to consider constitutional and institutional reform in Canada;

5) make presentations on behalf of the Legislative Assembly and the Government of the Northwest Territories to such bodies as the committee agrees appropriate;

6) prepare reports at times to be decided by the committee and as appropriate to the progress of the national unity debate;

7) review and recommend on any related matter referred to it by the Legislative Assembly; and

8) establish a quorum to be three Members, including the Chair.

Thank you.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Your motion is in order, Mr. Kakfwi. To the motion.

An Hon. Member

Question.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Question is being called. Mr. Kakfwi.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I should just go back and make a correction. The motion was to have been seconded by the honourable Member for the Kitikmeot. Sorry.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Seconded by the honourable Member for Kitikmeot.

An Hon. Member

Question.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Question is being called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

We will now have a short recess. Thank you.

---SHORT RECESS

I call the Assembly back to order. Can we go to motion 27-12(1), Strategy Committee for Implementation of Recommendations of "Strength At Two Levels"? Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you. Mr. Speaker:

WHEREAS the government appears to be moving quickly to implement some of the recommendations of the report titled "Strength At Two Levels," also known as the Beatty report;

AND WHEREAS the Government Leader has committed to involving ordinary Members more actively in the process of government regarding implementation of the Beatty report recommendations;

AND WHEREAS the concerns of the ordinary Members may not be easily expressed to the government when this House is not in session;

NOW THEREFORE, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Keewatin Central, that the Government Leader include three ordinary Members of this Assembly on its strategy committee for implementing the recommendations of the report "Strength At Two Levels."

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Your motion is in order, Mr. Dent. To the motion. Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, I believe most Members in this House support the theme of the report, "Strength At Two Levels." Having said that, however, there are concerns among many Members regarding some of the recommendations, concerns that need to be addressed here in the House before the government moves to implement any recommendations from the report.

Ordinary Members have welcomed this government's pledge to include us much more in the decisions of government, but we have heard several statements in the past week which cause concern because these statements make it sound like the government is proceeding to implement some of the recommendations without any involvement from this side of the House. Statements like announcing that POL would be transferred to the NWT Power Corporation and that the Departments of Health and Social Services would be combined took us by surprise happening before we had the opportunity to even discuss the report in the Legislature.

The government appears to be trying to move quickly -- perhaps too quickly -- to implement recommendations from the Beatty report. Ordinary Members are concerned that their concerns about some of the recommendations might not be addressed before the government moves to implement them.

The purpose of this motion is to ensure that ordinary Members are given the opportunity to provide the sort of advice the government has said they would welcome, placing three ordinary Members on the committee planning the implementation strategy to allow the concerns of ordinary Members to be raised even if the House is not in session.

Given this government's commitment to more openness and accountability and their pledge to involve ordinary Members in government decision-making, I hope we will see the honourable Members on the government side also supporting this motion. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Seconder for the motion, Mr. Todd.

John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, I, like Mr. Dent, agree that there is a requirement for more open government. I would hope the Government Leader and the other side of the House would not see this motion as a means to void or to interfere in the process of cabinet, but merely to complement and to ensure that the recommendations and the move forward do have the full support of the House. Thank you.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

To the motion. Mr. Arvaluk.

James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. "Strength At Two Levels" means just that. That means very effective education divisional boards and regional councils are with this report in possible jeopardy in continuing to be effective regional organizations. There are too many questions in that report yet. For that reason, I will be supporting the motion.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

To the motion.

An Hon. Member

Question.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Question is being called. Mr. Pollard.