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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

To the motion. Question is being called. Mr. Allooloo.

Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to inform the House, those people that might not know, the number of students that are in Kakisa. I am told there are six students presently in Kakisa, and the forecast does not indicate an increase in students for next year. The Member is correct that there is a trailer provided. I am told that there are no preschool kids presently living in Kakisa. Also in Kakisa there is a part-time literacy tutor. If students are interested in upgrading, they can be tutored in their homes or in a small group, if they are interested, in the band office in the evenings.

While a space for adult education is desirable, it is not, to my department's view, crucial to the operation of a literacy program in the community. I thought I should point that out.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

To the motion.

An Hon. Member

Question.

Motion 30-12(1), Carried

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Question is being called. All those in favour? Opposed, if any? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Could we go on to Motion 32-12(1), Adult Education Centre, Hay River Reserve. Mr. Antoine.

Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This motion is about an adult education centre, Hay River Reserve.

WHEREAS adults living on the Hay River Reserve are required to attend Arctic College day classes at the Chief Sunrise Elementary School;

AND WHEREAS adult students and younger students alike find this current arrangement to be a disruptive influence on their studies;

AND WHEREAS the Hay River Reserve Band has held discussions with Arctic College with an eye to utilizing the old band office for next fall's school term;

AND WHEREAS a more desirable long-term solution would be to establish a permanent adult education centre for the Hay River Reserve;

NOW THEREFORE, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Deh Cho, that this Legislative Assembly recommends that the Minister of Education include an adult education centre for the Hay River Reserve when developing the department's five-year capital plan.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Antoine.

Jim Antoine Nahendeh

(Translation) The Hay River Reserve is not in my constituency. I am doing this on behalf of Sam. I have been to the reserve in Hay River a few times, so I know a bit about it. Last Friday and Saturday I attended a meeting over there. It was in the school gym. When I arrived the kids were still in school, so I have some idea of what it means for an adult to attend school there. Right now in the Hay River Reserve they are in the process of building a new band office. After it is completed, they want to use the old band office as an adult education school. Thank you.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Gargan.

Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Antoine is absolutely right in suggesting that the reserve is not requesting a capital project as opposed to that they have an adult education centre. The band office is now working on building a new band office. This is not a new band office; it is an old town hall building that was in Pine Point, that they have relocated, torn down and are rebuilding on the reserve. So if anybody goes to the reserve you will find the new band office, as referred to, has all been built by second-hand lumber that was used for the old town hall in Pine Point.

The motion is straight forward. The band council has met with Mr. Ron Holtorf several times in November and another time in October. They have requested that they discuss with the Department of Public Works and other GNWT people the matter of utilizing the present band office as an adult education centre.

So it is basically hoping that through this motion the government would be compelled to consider the band office, which would be vacant this coming fall, as an adult education centre, with some minor renovations.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Allooloo.

Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to inform the Members who might not know the Hay River Reserve, at present a large space for adult education is included in the school built in 1985 in consultation with the school education council and the chief of the band. At that time they envisioned an education centre for all ages. The design of the building reflected that desire by having four classrooms for the school program and a large classroom for adult programs. The school also includes a resource centre, industrial arts room and home economics room. Until the enrolment of the school, presently at 46 students, reaches the capacity of 88 students, a new adult education centre, to my

department, is not required. The enrolment forecast for the Hay River Reserve does not indicate that the school will reach the capacity in the next five years.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

To the motion. Mover of the motion, conclude debate. Mr. Antoine.

Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I moved the motion on behalf of Sam, and I wonder if he could respond on my behalf.

Motion 32-12(1), Carried

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

I am sorry, but I think you know the issue. You moved the motion. This is the last chance. To the motion. All those in favour? Opposed, if any? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Next is Motion 34-12(1), Construction of a Garage in Kakisa. Mr. Gargan.

Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker:

WHEREAS the settlement of Kakisa has a number of vehicles and equipment;

AND WHEREAS these vehicles are needed to provide maintenance and services to the community;

AND WHEREAS there is no facility to store the vehicles and equipment;

AND WHEREAS the five-year capital plan of the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has no provision for the construction of a garage in Kakisa;

NOW THEREFORE, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for North Slave, that this Legislative Assembly recommends that the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs consider allocating funds for the construction of a garage in Kakisa as a high priority in the department's capital plan.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Your motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Gargan.

Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Presently under MACA they have a small sewage pump-out system and a small water delivery system that you could pull behind a vehicle. They also have a suburban. They also have a garbage truck, but they do not have any place for storage of that equipment. I brought it up last summer that we were having problems with storage space with regard to those capital projects that the government realizes cost quite a bit of money to get. The water delivery system, for example, they do deliver water but the ice keeps building up in the tank and eventually you have no use for the equipment itself because there is no storage space to thaw out the equipment. They have a small one-bay garage as part of the old band office that they store the garbage truck in. But it is also in cold storage. It does not help the vehicle in extremely cold temperatures.

Basically I would hope the government would look at this one with more of a priority, since the government did invest quite a bit of money on equipment to the community. I would be concerned that the equipment could be damaged by ice when the water freezes in the equipment. I would hope the community could look at this.

I also believe the dry chemical truck which is now located in Enterprise would be also going to Kakisa. But that would also require storage space which is non-existent at this point in time. I believe the need is there for that. I would ask Mr. Allooloo to fill the Members in on the rest.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Seconder, Mr. Zoe.

Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Question.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Question has been called. Mr. Pudluk.

Ludy Pudluk High Arctic

I have difficulty with this motion. I understand the Member's concern and I also have a lot of concerns about my area, especially for Arctic Bay. All the trucks, dump trucks, front-end loaders, in Arctic Bay have to be parked outside overnight, sometimes running all night, because they have no place to put them.

Motion To Amend Motion 34-12(1)

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

May I have a copy of the amendment, please? The Chair will recess for five minutes to get a copy of the amendment and a translation.

---SHORT RECESS

For the record I will read the amendment to add the following words after the words, "capital plan," to provide "that any allocation of funds comes from the total funds identified for the Fort Smith Region and not from planned allocations of other regions of the Northwest Territories." Mr. Pudluk, your amendment is in order. To the amendment. Mr. Arvaluk.

Motion 34-12(1): Construction Of A Garage In Kakisa
Item 14: Motions

December 15th, 1991

Page 131

James Arvaluk Aivilik

I will try to speak as mover to the amendment to motion 34-12(1). The reason for the amendment is that there is no way for me to object to the regional mover mainly because of a lack of experience in envisioning or finding the need -- although I have heard that there are approximately 40 people in Kakisa, but the point here is even if you have a thousand people there, the budget is not in front of us. It is not fair to other regions to blindly make motions when a draft budget is not even presented by the finance committee to the Government of the Northwest Territories. One of the examples I could use right now for my area is the population of Coral Harbour is just under 600; I think it is about 600 now. Coral Harbour has over one million dollars of private investment in boats: nine Peterheads, one high tech boat, 25 canoes and 10 fibre glass Lake Winnipeg boats, pleasure crafts. These are all very important working boats that are used for the livelihood of the community because we are on an island. We have no way to protect the boats from the high tide waters and storms. I will not be making this kind of motion while we are sitting here, until we have time to review the budget. For that reason, I support the amendment to the motion.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you. To the amendment. Mr. Gargan.