Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that this committee recommend that the Department of Education, Culture and Employment Programs make a concerted effort to improve its Capital Management and Planning Program, including planning based on demographics.
Debates of Nov. 26th, 1992
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Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. I wonder if the Minister would like to bring his witnesses in at this time?
Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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James Arvaluk Aivilik
I would appreciate that, Mr. Chairman, thank you.
Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Does this committee agree?
Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Sergeant-at-Arms. Mr. Minister, for the record would you please introduce your witnesses at this time?
Department Of Education, Culture And Employment Programs
Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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James Arvaluk Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have with me Mr. Eric Colbourne, Acting Deputy Minister, and Paul Devitt, Director of Finance.
Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Dent, your motion is in order. To the motion.
Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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An Hon. Member
Question.
Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
Mr. Dent.
Committee Motion 21-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 21
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Another area of concern for the committee is one that has been noted in other departments and government wide and has to do with prior commitments. During the review of the 1992-93 capital estimates the committee was told by the Minister of Finance that prior capital commitments would be honoured in the capital budget. The committee was also advised that commitments had been made to the community of Fort Smith to renovate the J.B. Tyrrell Elementary School, and for the community of Hay River to renovate the Diamond Jenness High School. As a result the committee recommended that these renovations should proceed. The government responded that these renovations had the least priority unless safety is an issue and so these projects have been delayed to 1995-96. Mr. Chairman, we do not think this is right.
Committee Motion 22-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 22
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Therefore, I move, that this committee recommend that the Department of Education, Culture and Employment Programs live up to prior commitments and fast track the renovations to the J.B. Tyrrell Elementary School in Fort Smith and the Diamond Jenness High School in Hay River by advancing $100,000 each for design and tender document production to 1993-94, and construction to 1994-95 and 1995-96.
Committee Motion 22-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 22
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Your motion is in order. To the motion.
Committee Motion 22-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 22
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An Hon. Member
Question.
Committee Motion 22-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 22
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
Mr. Dent.
Committee Motion 22-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 22
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Our next area of concern has to do with Arctic College training equipment. The five-year capital plan budgets $2.2 million for mobile equipment for the heavy equipment training program. Most Members on the committee noted that students coming out of the program would wind up working for municipalities and very seldom see new equipment. It does not seem to make a lot of sense to have the students trained on brand new equipment when they are going to have to go out and make do with much
older equipment in the municipalities. We thought that perhaps the students should be trained on older equipment.
Committee Motion 23-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 23
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Therefore, I move, that this committee recommend that Arctic College purchase more of the older equipment from the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, (or communities) that require renovations, as an alternative to purchasing brand new equipment.
Committee Motion 23-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 23
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Your motion is in order. To the motion.
Committee Motion 23-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 23
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An Hon. Member
Question.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
Mr. Dent.
Committee Motion 23-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 23
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Our next area of concern has to do with an overall policy for museums, churches and other historical buildings. During the review of the 1992-93 capital estimates the committee recommended development of a policy integrating museum development in the N.W.T. I would like to point out, Mr. Chairman, that we were not the first Standing Committee on Finance to do this. The policy it was also recommended to this House by the Standing Committee on Finance prior the current one. Apparently we were advised that this strategy is now due for completion by the department in this current fiscal year. Concerns are constantly raised by Members about the confusion over treatment of historical buildings, churches, tourist projects, and other things with a similar theme. These should all be dealt with in the strategy under development. In the meantime further capital projects should be delayed pending completion of the strategy and substantiation of the costs and benefits. It is difficult for the committee to prioritize items which may be in the capital plan without having an overall strategy from the department.
Committee Motion 24-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 25
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November 25th, 1992
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Therefore, I move, that this committee recommend that the Department of Education, Culture and Employment Programs develop a policy covering museums, churches and other historical buildings to ensure consistency, fairness and equity in the application of standards and criteria for such infrastructure between communities.
Committee Motion 24-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 25
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Your motion is in order. To the motion.
Committee Motion 24-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation No. 25
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An Hon. Member
Question.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
Mr. Dent.