Mr. Chairman, would you ask the Minister to speak to the motion on the floor please?

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. Will you speak to the motion?

Thank you, Mr Kakfwi. To the motion.

Question.

Motion That Arctic College Develop A Strategy To Avoid Duplication Of Services And Programs, Carried

The question has been called. Those in favour of the motion? Opposed? The motion is carried.

--- Carried

Any more general comments on page 19? Mr. Koe.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have been pretty silent during the past couple of days, going page by page, basically listening to my honourable friends, getting direction for the task they asked me to do on their behalf. At this stage, on page 19, there are a couple of subjects that are dear to my heart. One is education and one is health care and hospitals. When the Members and I as chairman of the standing committee of agencies, boards and commissions, had our first public sessions in Fort Smith, there were some very interesting scenarios in terms of what the media -- the types of questions they were asking, and the types of concerns that were being brought up by students at Arctic College in Fort Smith because of the information that was in print in the local newspaper. The issue, or what concerned me, was that people thought the ABC standing committee was just formed to make all these cuts and changes to agencies, boards and commissions because of this report. We quickly cleared that up, as to what the committee's role was.

Also, the Members that were there had a chance to mingle with the students, and they were very concerned that we came down to Fort Smith to cut Arctic College. We had a lot of discussions and talks with many of their peers. But I agree with the motion that was just passed. Arctic College has grown. In the region or riding I represent there is a campus that has been going through fairly difficult times in terms of finding operating monies and finding its mandate; why is it there and what is it supposed to be doing? Things are changing, as everything else does, and I think this motion just gives direction to the people that are in charge of Arctic College to look at their strategies and find out what programs and services should be where, and how effective and efficient they are.

In terms of health services and facilities, this is another area that the standing committee on ABCs looked at, and we heard a lot of input and feedback from people involved in the delivery of health care --doctors, nurses, regional boards from across the Territories, and other people that are interested. They were very concerned about the methods that seemingly have been used to implement this "Northwest Territories Way." I am glad the Government Leader has offered to give us an update and briefing on this, and hopefully that would help us in our deliberations and provide us with more information.

Inuvik has had a hospital for many years. It used to be a fairly large, fairly active centre with a wide range of services compared to what it is today where it has two wards, one of which is a long-term care ward with seemingly limited services. I am not one for saying it should be reduced further. At this stage, I am not willing to support any moves to do that.

I want to make these comments to clear the air on what our role is as a committee, and some of the perceptions we found when we were out visiting communities. Mahsi.

Further general comments on page 19. Page 20. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When we look at the contents up to page 20 in Part I of this report

, I think some of the comments we have made gives government an indication of some of the concerns that Members have. In the foreword of this document, we have been able to express part of these concerns in the introduction to the review project. There is a lot more -- in excess of 200 pages -- that we have to go through.

Motion To Defer Tabled Document 9-12(2), Carried

Since the government has allowed the three Members to start a working group, I would like to move that this committee defer further consideration of Tabled Document 9-12(2), Strength at Two Levels, and that it be kept on the order paper.

The motion is in order. To the motion. Ms. Cournoyea.

Mr. Chairman, I do not have any objection to concluding for now; however, it is difficult being a cabinet Minister because we have a lot of similar feelings about what is happening in the communities and what services can be delivered, because we have constituents, as well. From page 21 on, we get into more detail about how the first part came to form. I was looking forward to going through the document, and perhaps we can at a later date. I want to assure you that a lot of the opinions and concerns that you have are the same concerns I have on behalf of my constituency. I know our Members here have these concerns on behalf of their constituency as well. At the same time, the matter of services to communities, health care and education are very relative no matter where we go in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Cournoyea. To the motion. Order, please. To the motion.

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour of the motion? Those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

The motion for deferral of Tabled Document 9-12(2), Strength at Two Levels, has been carried. What is the wish of the committee? I cannot add too much here unless I hear from Members. Mr. Zoe.

There has been a request to go to Bill 14 and Committee Report 3-12(2). Does the committee agree? Mr. Nerysoo.

Mr. Chairman, I move that we report progress.

The motion is in order. It is not debatable. Those in favour of the motion? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

I will now rise and report progress.

Item 19, report of committee of the whole. Mr. Chairman.

Seconder to the motion? Mr. Nerysoo. Your motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 20, third reading of bills. Item 21, orders of the day. Mr. Clerk.

There will be a meeting of the ordinary Members' caucus at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning.

Orders of the day for Friday, February 28, 1992.

1. Prayer

2. Ministers' Statements

3. Members' Statements

4. Returns to Oral Questions

5. Oral Questions

6. Written Questions

7. Returns to Written Questions

8. Replies to Opening Address

9. Petitions

10. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

11. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

12. Tabling of Documents

13. Notices of Motions

14. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills

15. Motions

16. First Reading of Bills

17. Second Reading of Bills

18. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters: Tabled Documents 9-12(2), 10-12(2) and 12-12(2); Bill 14; Committee Report 3-12(2)

19. Report of Committee of the Whole

20. Third Reading of Bills

21. Orders of the Day

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until 10:00 a.m., Friday, February 28, 1992.

---ADJOURNMENT