This is page numbers 1029 - 1051 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Members Present

Hon. Titus Allooloo, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Arngna'naaq, Mr. James Arvaluk, Hon. Michael Ballantyne, Hon. Nellie Cournoyea, Mr. Dent, Mr. Gargan, Hon. Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Lewis, Mrs. Marie-Jewell, Hon. Rebecca Mike, Hon. Don Morin, Hon. Richard Nerysoo, Mr. Ningark, Mr. Pudlat, Mr. Pudluk, Hon. John Todd, Mr. Whitford, Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Good morning. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Madam Premier.

Minister's Statement 65-12(3): Dogrib Power Project
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, this is an emergency statement. Mr. Speaker, it is with great pleasure and pride that I advise this Assembly of a landmark agreement concluded last evening between the Dogrib Treaty 11 tribal council and the Northwest Territories Power Corporation for development of hydro potential in the North Slave region.

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Mr. Speaker, subject to regulatory approvals, this historic agreement provides for development of hydro sites at Snare cascades on the Snare River and Lac La Martre river system. These projects will be developed, constructed and owned by the Dogrib Power Corporation, a wholly owned Dogrib enterprise.

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As each site is completed the Northwest Territories Power Corporation will accept operating responsibility. Mr. Speaker, this agreement as represented by the Dogrib power project agreement and the power acquisition agreement reflects the spirit of goodwill, respect and cooperation that was evident throughout the negotiations.

The agreement, Mr. Speaker, that was reached today secures employment and training opportunities for the residents of Rae-Edzo, Snare Lake, Rae Lakes and Lac La Martre through control and ownership of each development. These projects have been made possible by the market security and operating experience that partnership with the Northwest Territories Power Corporation will provide.

Mr. Speaker, first and foremost this agreement is a commercial undertaking that balances the interests of both parties. Engineering and construction contracts will be awarded by the Dogrib Power Corporation on the basis of the tender process; all regulatory requirements including environmental, land and water issues will be addressed by the Dogrib Power Corporation; and the interest of Northwest Territories Power Corporation customers will be protected by the Public Utilities Board review of the power acquisition agreement. This agreement is really a true partnership.

The first phase of the proposed project calls for an investment of up to $35 million. The second phase has an estimated cost of $80 million.

Development of these sites will reduce the growing reliance on diesel for power generation in the North Slave region. With adequate power supply and the long-term price stability associated with hydroelectric power generation, the growing opportunities for economic development throughout the region are further advanced.

Mr. Speaker, I wish to acknowledge the dedicated and professional efforts of both Dogrib representatives and Power Corporation officials, many of whom are here in the gallery today, in concluding an agreement that will guarantee investment, development and employment in the North Slave region. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 65-12(3): Dogrib Power Project
Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Zoe.

Dogrib Hydro Project
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. It is with equally great pleasure and a great sense of enthusiasm that I echo the statement made by the Premier. Today the Dogrib nation rejoices the signing of last evening of this very historic and landmark agreement. Mr. Speaker, we believe that our process of negotiations and the final agreement is indeed an example of partnership in development. This is the model of the kind of relationship that we would like industry, in general, to build with the Dogrib nation. Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Dogrib nation communities of Rae-Edzo, Lac La Martre, Rae Lakes and Snare Lake I would like to express our sincere gratitude to our Government Leader, the Honourable Nellie Cournoyea, and the Members of Cabinet for their support and encouragement throughout this first phase. We hope that both the federal government and the Government of the Northwest Territories will continue to assist us in bringing this unique project to completion.

In addition, we would not have been able to reach this agreement without the goodwill and cooperation of the chairman, board of directors, and the president of the NWT Power Corporation.

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We would like to acknowledge that and thank them for this opportunity. Mr. Speaker, it is very fitting that it is during this United Nations international year of indigenous people that we are able to initiate a hydroelectric project which will be wholly owned by an aboriginal group. The Dogrib nation will not only own the access of the Dogrib power project but will be fully involved in and control the entire project, right from the conception of the project to engineering and construction. The Dogrib nation will be able to ensure long-term sustainable development on Dogrib land. Throughout our involvement we hope to be able to balance the legitimate concerns and sensitivities of our traditional economy with the needs of today's development. In addition, we will not only ensure maximum training and employment opportunities for the Dogrib people today but also long-term benefits and economic self-sufficiency for our future generations.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Dogrib Hydro Project
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

The Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Zoe.

Dogrib Hydro Project
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mahsi. The Dogrib power project will have two phases and will develop small scale run of the river environmental sound hydroelectric facilities. This is the kind of appropriate development that the Dogrib nation is proud to be part of. Mr. Speaker, it is our understanding that this is the first ever project of its kind, involving full aboriginal involvement and ownership, not only in Canada and the United States, but according to the Canadian International Development Agency and the United Nation, the first of its kind anywhere in the world.

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Mr. Speaker, a project of this nature is not possible without the full support of our leaders. The Dogrib power project was initiated under the leadership of our former Grand Chief Eddie Erasmus. Today, the project is fully supported and endorsed by our new Grand Chief, Joe Rabesca, Chief Isadore Zoe, Chief Henry Gon, and Chief Joseph Judas on behalf of their respective bands. This is all in the spirit of Dogrib unity and yet another example of the Dogrib working together. I am proud, Mr. Speaker, to be part of that nation.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, before I conclude I would like to take this opportunity to invite all the government Ministers and the honourable Members of this Legislature to join the Dogrib Nation in celebrating the ceremonial signing of the Dogrib power project agreement on Friday, March 26 in Snare Lake. We sincerely hope you will all be able to join us in celebrating this historic event. Mahsi.

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Dogrib Hydro Project
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Two of the key players in negotiating this historic agreement are in the gallery. I would like to recognize Grand Chief Joe Rabesca of the Dogrib nation, he is also the...

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...first chairman of the Dogrib Power Corporation. We also have Jim Robertson, the chairman of the Northwest Territories Power Corporation.

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Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ningark.

Students Leaving Home Communities To Attend School
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I stand today to speak on behalf of the young people who are our future and the people who go to different communities to attend school, especially from the smaller communities. It is good they want to get their education and that their parents encourage them to get their education, but sometimes when they experience something for the first time they have a hard time because they miss their family in their communities. Whenever they are having problems and they do not see their family for a long time they have to phone them long distance and talk with their parents to make life better for themselves. Mr. Speaker, this is all right when the young people go to school to a different community from smaller communities.

I think this is great because I went to school in a different community myself, but the grade extensions have to be given to the smaller communities in this day and age. At the appropriate time I will be asking the Minister of Education regarding students who have to travel out of their communities to attend school. I know it is a good thing, but it is very hard for the students. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Students Leaving Home Communities To Attend School
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Lewis.

Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thanks, Mr. Speaker. This is the budget session and we have all seen how difficult it is to maintain our levels of services just like other governments, especially watching the performances of other provincial governments in trying to stave off huge debts. Like other governments, we have been forced to live within our means, Mr. Speaker, through a combination of spending cuts and some small tax increases.

Last June, Mr. Speaker, when she was an ordinary Member, Ms. Mike made an observation. She did not believe Mr. Pollard should be both Finance Minister and Minister of Economic Development, since she believed there was a conflict. Economic Development Ministers like to spend money and if you are a Finance Minister you like to hang onto it. I did not feel there was a huge difficulty at that time, but I began to see some difficulties. We have heard the Minister of Finance's commitment to a balanced budget, as our Finance Minister, and his efforts to achieve that have been greatly appreciated by both the Members of the House and also the public.

Wearing his other hat, however, just one week ago, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Pollard went uncharacteristically wild. He talked about borrowing $250 billion to build an infrastructure to support mining. Yellowknife people, of course, are delighted that the Minister has shown such an interest in the sector of the economy which is very important to this region and there is no doubt that it will continue to be that way. The point I am making, Mr. Speaker, is that Mr. Pollard, after the weekend, goes somewhat wild. Since it is Friday, I would like to remind Members that this weekend he will be in Montreal, and I will be looking to see how restrained he will be on Monday when he returns as our Finance Minister to continue with the budget debate. Thank you.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

...by the Montreal Canadians. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Pudlat.

Rock Crusher For Lake Harbour
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today in regard to the petition coming from one of my communities in my constituency. Lake Harbour is a community which does not have much flat space to develop. The community is making a proposal through the capital budget. The proposal, to the Department of Public Works, requests the community be provided with a rock crusher.

Rock Crusher For Lake Harbour
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Funding For Youth Initiatives
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In reviewing the Social Services' budget yesterday, we were advised in this House that there is a surplus of funding of $300,000 in the youth initiative. Mr. Speaker, many of the Members were very disappointed to hear this. We recognize the need to address youth of the Northwest Territories, and the use this funding could have helped youth in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, last night we met both with the concerned fishermen and the friendship centre regarding the amount of funding they are seeking. The friendship centres assist youth across the north. I will be asking my colleagues at the appropriate time for support for a motion that I would like to put forth in this House to request the Minister to use that surplus funding prior to March 31, instead of lapsing the funding to assist the friendship centres in the north that do go out and help the youth of the north. Thank you.

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Funding For Youth Initiatives
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Whitford.

Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I rise to congratulate the Dogrib nation and the NWT Power Corporation...

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...on this historical agreement.

Mr. Speaker, the arrangements are of historical significance, not only that it is within the traditional use of the land which the aboriginal peoples have been using for many years. From what I understand of the project, it is going to be very benign. It is not to be misconstrued, Mr. Speaker, when we talk about hydro, that the same approach which has been taken in the James Bay area, will be taken here. I understand this is much more benign and much more compatible to traditional use of the land. They are to be commended on it and the Power Corporation is to be commended on this approach to it. It also incorporates into the agreement the more contemporary needs of aboriginal peoples to get into the business sector and to meet the contemporary demands by people. This certainly is one great step in that direction. Everyone will benefit from this. Both sides are to be congratulated for a tremendous job.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Antoine.

Jim Antoine Nahendeh

(Translation) I would like to speak about the agreement between the NWT Power Corporation and the Dogrib nation. They will be building a dam which will generate electricity. I have been thinking for quite some time about major projects on our lands. I think it is proper that the aboriginal people are involved in those projects. I would like to congratulate the Dogrib nation and the NWT Power Corporation. It is a start. The Northwest Territories is large, so if there are major projects occurring the native people should be involved. This agreement between the NWT Power Corporation and the Dogrib nation is a start. I would like to thank them for this.

The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Item 3, Member's statements. Mr. Gargan.

MLA Sharks Versus Yellowknife Media Ravens
Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On the lighter side of things, Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure that your hockey team, the MLA Sharks, is ready to take a serious bite out of the Yellowknife Media Ravens.

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After months of gruelling practice, the last of which was last night, the MLA Sharks have developed into a finely tuned hockey machine.

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They are, Mr. Speaker, poetry in motion. It is therefore my opinion, Mr. Speaker, that the MLA Sharks will deliver a crushing defeat to the Ravens tomorrow evening at the second annual media/MLA hockey game. Mr. Speaker, the coach of the MLA Sharks, Mrs. Jeannie Marie-Jewell, and the general manager, Mr. David Hamilton, have just released the MLA Sharks final roster for tomorrow evening. Representing the MLA Sharks squad will be Nellie Cournoyea, Titus Allooloo, Richard Nerysoo, Henry Zoe, James Arvaluk, Don Morin and of course myself. A most impressive line up would you not say, Mr. Speaker? I would advise the media to keep their heads up in the corners because I have heard Cabinet Members muttering something about "pay back time."

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Perhaps they were talking about the ordinary MLAs, I am not sure about that, Mr. Speaker. Also, wearing the MLA Sharks' blue and white uniforms with pride will be the Assembly staff of Joe Maduke, Craig Robinson, Vera Raschke, Kuluk Gamble and Sheila MacPherson.

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Just a fair warning to the media, Mr. Speaker, Ms. MacPherson is the Assembly's legal counsel and will be prosecuting all media infractions to the fullest extent of the law.

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Last but not least, on the MLA Sharks' roster are deputy minister, Al Menard, assistant deputy minister, Conrad Pilon, and Andy Langford. The Ravens have also agreed to our special request to allow Archie Catholique to play with the MLA Sharks. This, Mr. Speaker, was a serious technical error on the part of the media. However, I guess we have always known that they are not playing with a full duffle bag.

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In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to inform the public that the proceeds for the media/MLA hockey game will go to the Stanton Yellowknife Hospital intensive care unit. I encourage everyone to come out and watch the MLA Sharks pluck the Ravens beginning at 7:00 pm tomorrow evening at the Yellowknife Community Arena. Thank you.

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MLA Sharks Versus Yellowknife Media Ravens
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Gargan. Obviously the media are worried, they are not here so they must be practising.

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Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Kakfwi.

Member's Statement Re Support For MLA Sharks
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Following Mr. Gargan, I know that tomorrow my fellow colleagues will all go out to play and have fun. I wanted to let the Members know that I really wanted to go out and play and have fun too, but the coach and I have not been getting along lately.

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I think she probably will not let me play anyway, since she is concerned that I do not know the rules...

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...and that I do not know how to have fun. Besides all of this, my wife is the goalie for the other team and if I score a goal I probably will be in the doghouse.

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I do want to wish you all luck, and I hope you have fun. Thank you.

Member's Statement Re Support For MLA Sharks
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi will work his way back into the line up in due course. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Allooloo.