Debates of Oct. 24th, 1994

This is page numbers 459 - 477 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was make.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Minister's Absence From The House
Appointments To The NWT Water Board
Engineer And Architecture Program
Affirmative Action Policy
NWT Air Jet Service To Hall Beach
Mammography Screening In The Nwt
Funding For Arctic Winter Games
The Passing Of Mr. John Nanegoak
Moving Royal Oak Mine Headquarters
Dedication Of Monument To Inuit Who Died From Tb
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
United Nations Day
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Mammography Screening Policy
Evaluation Of Affirmative Action Policy
Privatization Of Community Corrections Programs
Extra Revenues Generated By High Water Levels
Contribution For Monument For Inuit Tb Victims
Tb Outbreak In Rae-edzo
Plans For Gjoa Haven Elders' Facility
Approach Taken In 1995-96 O And M Budget Preparations
Status Of Reviewing Change Of Name Procedures
Tracking Of Tobacco Tax Revenues
Survey Of Eligible Pensioners In Communities
Written Question 14-12(6): Policies, Statutes And Regulations As They Apply To By-law Officers
Written Question 15-12(6): Percentage Of Women Receiving Mammography Screening In Nwt
Written Question 16-12(6): Number Of GNWT Employees Eligible For Hardship Allowance
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Committee Report 6-12(6): Report On The Review Of Bill 3 - Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred
To Defer Consideration Of Bill 3
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 475

Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, I don't quite understand the rationale. The Interpretation Act defines adults as persons who have attained the age of 19 years. If this specific clause wasn't in this bill, I would assume "adult" would be interpreted as 19 years. You changed it specifically to 18 years and I'm just wondering why. You said the Child Welfare Act only goes up to 18 years of age. But, this act is primarily for adults. I'm not too sure what the department is trying to say.

The drinking age is 19 and so forth. I would have assumed that this bill would recognize that if you are 19, you would be considered an adult.

Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 475

The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 475

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, what would happen, basically, is that 18-year-olds would be exempt from either act. We want the new act to apply. If we don't include 18-year-olds, they would be left out. That's the thinking behind this particular definition.

Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 475

The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 1. Mr. Lewis.

Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 475

Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is one area that I believe could be improved and I do have a proposed amendment, if I may proceed, Mr. Chairman.

Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 475

The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Lewis. Proceed, please.

Committee Motion 34-12(6): To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 475

Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Okay, Mr. Chairman, I move that clause 1 of Bill 3 be amended by adding the following definition immediately after the definition for spouse: "'supported decision-making' means a process whereby a person is unable to make and communicate decisions with respect to personal care and his

or her property, and in which advice, support or assistance is provided to that person by people chosen by that person."

Committee Motion 34-12(6): To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Lewis. We need a translation of this proposed amendment. Mr. Kakfwi.

Committee Motion 34-12(6): To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 34-12(6): To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

The Chair John Ningark

I am having technical difficulties. I am pushing the wrong buttons. I would like to remind the committee that we have to have translation in Inuktitut and French, so we will take a break until the translation is ready. Do you want to make a quick comment, Mr. Minister?

Committee Motion 34-12(6): To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Yes.

Committee Motion 34-12(6): To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

The Chair John Ningark

Is it to do with the motion? If it is regarding the motion, we have to get it translated so Mr. Pudlat will be able to follow along. We will break and then you can make your comments to the motion. Thank you.

---SHORT RECESS

Committee Motion 34-12(6): To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The committee will come back to order. Before ruling on the motion, I would like to recognize Mr. Lewis, mover of the motion. Mr. Lewis.

Committee Motion 34-12(6): To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Before the break, I moved an amendment to clause 1 of this bill and have since had an opportunity to talk to the Minister and also some of his officials. Because there are other amendments that follow from this first one, there may be some good technical reasons why we would defer this motion until they've had a chance to look at it.

Committee Motion 35-12(6): To Defer Consideration Of Bill 3, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

October 23rd, 1994

Page 476

Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

So, I would like to move that further consideration of Bill 3 be deferred, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 35-12(6): To Defer Consideration Of Bill 3, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Lewis. The motion is in order and the motion is not debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion to defer Bill 3 has passed.

---Carried

I would like to thank the Minister and the witnesses for appearing before the committee. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Gargan.

Committee Motion 35-12(6): To Defer Consideration Of Bill 3, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, I move we report progress.

Committee Motion 35-12(6): To Defer Consideration Of Bill 3, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Gargan. There is a motion to report progress and the motion is not debatable. All those in favour? I thanked the Minister already; they are relieved. All those in favour, please; I didn't see anybody.

Committee Motion 35-12(6): To Defer Consideration Of Bill 3, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

For what?

Committee Motion 35-12(6): To Defer Consideration Of Bill 3, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

The Chair John Ningark

To report progress. All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

I will rise and report progress on your behalf.

Committee Motion 35-12(6): To Defer Consideration Of Bill 3, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Page 476

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

I call the House back to order. Item 20, report of committee of the whole. The honourable Member for Natilikmiot, Mr. Ningark.

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Page 476

The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, your committee has been considering Committee Report 6-12(6) and Bill 3, and would like to report progress, with Committee Report 6-12(6) being concluded and, Madam Speaker, I move that the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Page 476

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Is there a seconder for the motion? The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Antoine. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Page 476

An Hon. Member

Question.

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Page 476

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 21, third reading of bills. Item 22, orders of the day. Mr. Clerk.