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Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, certainly, as the department responsible for this facility, I apologize for whatever might have happened in terms of how we went about the project. For some reason, it appears that there was some miscommunication or some plan of trying to put more into the building than was initially planned for. The design was very much over-budget, and we could not, as a department, take any more of our scarce dollars because someone had built more into the design than was needed.

So, really we're not off-schedule. I know there was a fear that it was a cancelled project, but it wasn't a cancelled project. So we're back down to the designing board again to see if we can get something within the scope of the program that was originally framed out or sketched out. So we're back to the drawing board, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Premier. Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Fred Koe Inuvik

These types of projects are crucial to the survival of certain construction companies. This one, in particular, was scheduled so that most of the work would be done during the winter months when usually there is very little capital construction. The Minister of Finance, in his budget address, made reference to the small capital projects that provide economic energy or boosts to the small businesses. This one, in particular, was scheduled to cover those winter months when the majority of the companies that were successful or thought they were successful in getting work on this project would have worked through November, December and January. Now there's a delay. I guess my concern is how long do you foresee this delay and when do you foresee real construction starting.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Madam Premier.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, my understanding is that it's going to take about two months to do the redesign on the building, according to the program needs or the initial program needs that were identified. So it will be two months before we can get the show on the road.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Premier. The chair continues to recognize Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you. Our time is running out, so I would like to move that we extend hours to conclude the budget of Health and Social Services.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

We have a motion to extend the time until the item is concluded. The motion is not debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Inuvik area, total region, $403,000.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Keewatin, total region, $225,000. The chair recognizes the Member from Aivilik, Mr. Arvaluk.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The alcohol and drug treatment centre, under various Keewatin; there was a lot of discussion and letter-writing back and forth between the department of health and the regional health board from Keewatin over the past several years. The latest one has been from the speaker of the Keewatin regional council, Anthym Kadjuk. In his letter, he mentioned planning for the eventuality of repatriating services from Churchill back into the regional facility for Keewatin residents within the boundary of Nunavut.

In the second paragraph, the regional organization made it clear that we wish Rankin Inlet to be the location and that we wanted a multi-use facility. The last point I want to make from that letter is that movement to remove the alcohol and drug facility from the proposed multi-use plan is under way; apparently by department officials.

Now, my question is, what came about. An official explained to me that there is an economic survey or other research work being done on regional health board facilities there. But, looking at future years, with $180,000 this year and $2.892 million in the future years for alcohol treatment centres, is the plan now to have a separate unit from the health centre or do you have an alcohol and drug treatment centre designed so that it will be part of, or connected to other health board facilities in Rankin Inlet?

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Madam Premier.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, at the time that the drug and alcohol treatment centre was put in the budget, health and social services were two separate departments. The 1995-96 estimates for $180,000 are for the general planning and how it will finally work out. I think that what we can do is have discussions in the community to see how we can meet the desires of the region to have it in Rankin Inlet and part of the multi-purpose facility. It may be that if it's part of the multi-purpose facility, we would have to delay it until such a time that it can be coordinated. We haven't gone far enough to say that's the case. I believe that what we've suggested is that we do have a meeting with the KIA, KRC, the chairpersons of the community alcohol and drug committees and, at this point in time, I would suggest maybe with the health centre as well because we are combining them now. However, right at the point when this was put in the budget, there were two different departments. It may be that we can still realize the end goal where it's attached and part of multi-purpose facility.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Madam Premier. Mr. Arvaluk has the floor, Mr. Gargan, unless you have point of order. Mr. Arvaluk? We had a motion to extend the period of time in order to complete this item and the motion was supported by majority, two voters against it; so, the Chairman took the direction from the committee to extend the clock until this item is completed. Mr. Gargan.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Just for clarification, this doesn't need to go to the Speaker in order for us to extend sitting hours in committee of the whole?

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

No, Mr. Gargan, while we're in the committee of the whole, I believe we still have authority, with the concurrence of the committee, to continue on with this particular item. We can't go into anything else. We're just dealing with the detail of capital, health and social services. We couldn't go on to another department or another item, we would have to just finish this up. We had the approval of the majority; it was not debatable. Mr. Arvaluk.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll try to be really quick. The Minister is saying then that the letter from KRC's speaker stated that we were surprised to hear on the radio last month that your department officials had began a movement to remove the alcohol and drug facilities from the proposed multi-use plan. For the record, Mr. Chairman, this radio program and what they heard last month is not true, according to her previous answer.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

The Premier is under no compulsion to respond to what the radio may or may not have said. I think if it was by way of comment, perhaps she's taking it under advisement. Mr. Arvaluk.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

October 25th, 1994

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will rephrase my question so that I will not put the Premier in that kind of situation. The department is not planning to -- or at least has not decided, according to the Premier's response -- have completely different facilities altogether, from the plan the department is talking about in the health board facilities. In other words, Mr. Chairman, maybe the best way to ask the Minister is how did you respond to this letter addressed to the Minister of Health and Social Services dated October 17th, respecting that particular issue that she answered by stating that no, we have not decided completely to have a separate facility, we will still be talking to the region to see if we can join all these facilities together if it's feasible. Thank you.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Madam Premier.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Mr. Chairman, I haven't answered the letter yet, but if I were to answer the letter I would answer the way the Member has put forward so he's drafted my letter for me.

---Laughter

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Keewatin, total region, $225,000.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Total buildings and works, $3.320 million.

Committee Motion 36-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 4, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed