This is page numbers 25 - 51 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Mr. Minister.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If a unit is condition-rated at 60 per cent or less, the clients will get adjustments in their rent. If it is above 60 per cent, then there is nothing wrong with the unit. There may be a tile missing here or some little thing wrong with it. We sure aren't going to give a rent adjustment for those types of things. In addition, they will also get $100 if it lacks running water. If it lacks a shower or bathtub, they will get another $100 adjustment. If it lacks a flush toilet, they will get $100 adjustment. Those are all condition ratings. If the Member could be very specific at what he is getting at, maybe I could answer his question better.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

I will try to get more specific. Mr. Chairman, I don't mind the way the sliding scale is developed, but what if these units...The Minister indicated that there will be work orders for a window to be replaced or a tile to be fixed, for example, if it isn't the tenant's fault. The house is still rated 100 per cent, but if these work orders aren't worked on in a certain time period, do the clients get an adjustment on their unit? Those are the things I wanted to find out. Are they covered in this new rent scale? I don't see them in here. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Minister Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You don't see it because it isn't in there, Mr. Zoe. The sliding scale is according to the condition rating. Once it gets to a certain condition and a unit becomes more uncomfortable for tenants to live in, then they are going to get the rent adjustment. We can't afford to fix them all immediately.

Also, the Housing Corporation has taken on maintenance in a new aggressive manner. We are changing our mode in the Housing Corporation to pay more attention to maintenance and to work with the housing authorities to get our existing stock up to standard. We have to protect our investment of 5,500 units out there in order to make them last as long as possible and improve the living condition of our tenants because we don't have money to build new ones to replace the ones we have. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Morin. The chair recognizes the Member for Yellowknife North, Mr. Ballantyne.

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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have a very brief statement. First of all, I want to give credit to the Minister and the special committee for dealing with an incredibly difficult issue. On one hand, the federal government is squeezing really hard and if we don't do something, there would be major penalties in the millions of dollars. On the other hand, people in the communities, quite legitimately, are concerned about how it will impact them.

There have been many Housing Ministers, including myself, who have tried to grapple with this problem. He is the first Minister who has successfully grappled with the problem and he and the Housing Corporation deserve a lot of credit. I think the special committee, who worked closely with the Minister, deserve a lot of credit. So even though the final deal may not be perfect, it is definitely the best arrangement possible at this time. I, for one, am very satisfied with the arrangement. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ballantyne. You see a lot of smiling faces, Mr. Morin, did you wish to respond?

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

---Laughter

Mr. Chairman, I would like to take this opportunity to thank the community leaders who made the good recommendations about the new rent scale, as well as the leaders who attended the regional consultation process. I would like to thank the MLAs who attended the Advisory Committee on Social Housing and I would like to thank the staff of the Housing Corporation and Cabinet for their support. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Morin. The chair recognizes the Member for Inuvik.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I move we report progress.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Prior to that, could I get the committee to agree that the matter of the new rent scale for social housing is concluded?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. The committee agrees. We have a motion to report progress, which is not debatable. All those in favour? We have no quorum.

Thank you. We now have a quorum. We have a motion on the floor to report progress. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

I shall rise and report to the Deputy Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Item 20, report of committee of the whole. Mr. Whitford.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in your absence, the committee has been considering Tabled Document 4-12(7) and would like to report progress, and that Tabled Document 4-12(7) is concluded. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Whitford. Is there a seconder? Mr. Dent.

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Some Hon. Members

(Microphones turned off)

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

The motion is in order. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 21, third reading of bills. Item 22, orders of the day. Mr. Deputy Clerk, orders of the day, please.

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Acting Clerk Assistant Mr. Schauerte

Mr. Speaker, there will be a meeting of the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions immediately after adjournment. Tomorrow morning, November 16th, at 9:00 am, meetings of the Standing Committee on Finance and Standing Committee on Legislation. Orders of the day for Wednesday, November 16, 1994.

1. Prayer

2. Ministers' Statements

3. Members' Statements

4. Returns to Oral Questions

5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

6. Oral Questions

7. Written Questions

8. Returns to Written Questions

9. Replies to Opening Address 10. Petitions

11. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

12. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

13. Tabling of Documents

14. Notices of Motion

15. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills

16. Motions

- Motion 1-12(7), Funding Assistance To Unorganized

Communities Under the Capital/NWT Infrastructure Agreement

- Motion 3-12(7), Tabled Document 1-12(7), "Legislative

Discussion Paper on the Draft New Education Act" Be

Referred to the Standing Committee on Legislation

- Motion 4-12(7), Tabled Document 2-12(7) "Rewriting

Liquor Laws in the Northwest Territories, A Legislative

Action Paper" Be Referred to the Standing Committee on

Legislation

17. First Reading of Bills

18. Second Reading of Bills

19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

20. Report of Committee of the Whole

21. Third Reading of Bills

22. Orders of the Day

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The Deputy Speaker Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Clerk Assistant. This House stands adjourned until 1:30 pm Wednesday, November 16, 1994.

---ADJOURNMENT