This is page numbers 773 - 824 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was development.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arngna'naaq. General comments. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was going to ask a question when we were in clause by clause, but I am going to ask the question during general comments. For the sale of caribou, there were about 300 caribou that were going to be sold. This was a request. Last

year, Coral Harbour was told that money wasn't put aside for that. I want to ask a question with respect to the money that was going to be put aside for that purpose. Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Minister Arngna'naaq.

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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With respect to Mr. Arvaluk's question about the caribou that are going to be harvested, the Department of Renewable Resources is taking care of this right now. Right now, we're in the process of working with the community of Coral Harbour to set up an agreement. We're not trying to stop this, but we are working on it further so that we can have this for next year.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arngna'naaq. The honourable Member for Kivallivik, Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm the Member for Aivilik. (Translation) Can the Minister tell me why they can't finish this agreement?

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. My apologies. Minister Arngna'naaq.

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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

(Translation) They can't set up an agreement because right now the amount they would have to put aside for this project is too high. This is why the process is slow. The federal government is saying that the amount being set for this project is too high.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arngna'naaq. The honourable Member for Aivilik.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, how many caribou were they planning to gather? What was the agreed-to quota of animals that were going to be harvested? Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Mr. Arngna'naaq.

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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We would probably go with the harvesting of 4,000 caribou. This year, there would be between 1,000 and 1,500 harvested in Coral Harbour.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As long as the hunters of Coral Harbour don't harvest between 6,000 and 8,000 caribou, why is Economic Development or the NWT Development Corporation having a hard time setting up an agreement? What is the disagreement here when they are trying to deal with funds for this project?

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Minister Arngna'naaq.

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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

(Translation) They have clarified to Renewable Resources that, of the caribou that would be harvested, the Inuit would get 1,000. With the project, it would go up to 4,000. Together, if you combined it, there would be 5,000 caribou harvested. But, the thing is, they can't agree with the Development Corporation and Renewable Resources. The Development Corporation says they would be able to pay $1.25 per pound, but with the agreement, the people are asking for more than that amount. So, that is what the disagreement is about. Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. I will just remind Members that we're dealing with the capital budget and we're on general comments. The chair recognizes Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. These questions are not meant to be a preamble, but I wanted to get to the crunch of the matter with the capital estimates. It is neglected here. Was $1.25 arrived at after studying other markets, such as overseas or southern markets? Is it possible to have a federal inspector on site in Coral Harbour so that these can be commercially marketed and sold in the southern market? Is $1.25 a firm amount, of which we can't go beyond to make a profitable investment for the Development Corporation?

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Mr. Minister.

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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think the area in which the Department of Renewable Resources and the NWT Development Corporation are not able to meet is where the NWT Development Corporation has offered $1.25 per pound. The cost to harvesters is greater than the $1.25 the NWT Development Corporation is willing to offer. That is where the disagreement is. Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to capital, I wanted to ask general questions pertaining to emergency shelters for trappers and hunters. I wonder if the department has been considering developing a program similar to the ones that Department of Economic Development and Tourism has. When they build a park, they also build emergency shelters for tourists and so forth.

When we were in the new park built on Baffin Island, they had emergency shelters in various locations. I wonder if the department has considered building these kinds of emergency shelters for trappers. Are they anticipating that they will incorporate this type of program in their capital plans? Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Minister Arngna'naaq.

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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think that emergency shelters are a very good idea. However, as a department, in previous years we haven't been mandated to provide emergency shelters. Other departments have been able to come up with funds to do so.

At the present time, we don't have, within our budget, funds to provide emergency shelters. Perhaps at a later time we would be willing to consider it. But at the present time, we don't have the funds to be able to provide emergency shelters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Arngna'naaq. Mr. Zoe.