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Supplementary To Question 59-12(5): Policy For Commercial Quotas And Utilization Of Renewable Resources
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

It is a combination of both, the utilization of the commercial quotas and renewable resources that we have.

Supplementary To Question 59-12(5): Policy For Commercial Quotas And Utilization Of Renewable Resources
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The Speaker

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Ng asked this question in the last session. We are working at trying to fast-track a policy, through the policy committee of Economic Development, as to how we can encourage and insist that commercial institutions that this government runs, as well as others, make greater utilization of our natural resources when it comes to fish, wild game, et cetera. I am hoping that that policy will be complete fairly soon and then I will be able to provide it to Mr. Ng so we can seek his comments. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Zoe.

Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would like to ask a question to the Minister of Social Services. Madam Chair, over a number of years, Members on this side of the House, and partially on that side of the House, have been asking questions in relation to our drug and alcohol program. There have been a number of issues raised pertaining to that particular program, such as salaries. Since the Minister has taken over that portfolio, what has the department done with regard to resolving all the issues pertaining to our drug and alcohol program. Are there any new initiatives the department is undertaking? Thank you, Madam Chair.

The Speaker

Thank you. Mr. Zoe, we're not in committee of the whole, so I'm not Madam Chair. Minister of Social Services, Ms. Mike.

Return To Question 60-12(5): Status Of Initiatives For Drug And Alcohol Program
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. One of the first steps we tried to address are the alcohol and drug treatment centre counsellors, to increase their wage levels to the equivalent of a government worker. The second step, is we are looking into the community projects, not only alcohol and drug workers, but also other non-government organizations that we fund. The department is the phase of planning, so I would say the plans would be completed by September of 1994. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Zoe.

Supplementary To Question 60-12(5): Status Of Initiatives For Drug And Alcohol Program
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Supplementary, Madam Speaker. I wonder if the Minister has also taken into consideration, when they are reviewing all the drug and alcohol programs, about developing a formula for the community-based drug and alcohol workers, something similar to a formula we have when we fund our municipalities. I think that would be more fair and equitable if we do develop some sort of formula. I wonder if the department has taken that into consideration when they are dealing with the strategy for the drug and alcohol program? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Minister of Social Services, Ms. Mike.

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. These are the kinds of things that the department will consider. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Lewis.

Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to Mr. Kakfwi. Madam Speaker, yesterday, I talked to one of the elders here who I've known for a long time. About a year ago, I began discussing with him the possibility of building a house out at Prelude Lake where I have title to a lot. I've had it for a long time, but only squirrels and other little animals live in the shack I have there right now because it wasn't very well built. So, I want to build a decent one that my wife and I can stay in.

In light of the new developments in relation to land claims in the Yellowknife area, whereby instead of a negotiated land claim agreement, the Treaty 8 people want to have a clarification of what Treaty 8 really meant, and the fact that they claim they have not seeded the land, I would like to ask the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs -- and I'm using this personal example because it applies to lots of other people who own land outside of Yellowknife, what form of protection I have. I have to decide whether I'm going to build a good, decent sized house that will cost money, or just a little one that I won't worry about. What form of protection will I have, or other people like me, to build on titled lots outside of municipal boundaries?

The Speaker

Thank you. Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Speaker, it has been the policy of the federal government that all existing third-party interests in areas that are under negotiations are respected. I don't expect the federal government will be changing its position in these negotiations. The nature and the scope of the talks that Treaty 8 will have with the federal government with regard to their treaty land entitlement, is still not clear. The scope of those discussions has yet to be defined. It's my understanding that the federal government always insists that whatever third-party interests exist at the time negotiations get under way, are to be respected. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Supplementary, Mr. Lewis.

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

I would like to ask the Minister, since the negotiations that would take place between the Treaty 8 chiefs and the federal government would not be to get a new treaty, a new agreement or a new deal, but on the basis of a treaty that already exists, does that change the nature of negotiations from the one that the Minister is familiar with, whereby the federal government always honours such things as current ownership of title?

Supplementary To Question 61-12(5): Rights Of Non-aboriginal People To Own Land Under Claims Negotiations
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The Speaker

Thank you. Minister of Aboriginal Affairs, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Speaker, it's my understanding that there are two different versions with regard to Treaty 8. There is the written version that the federal government has, then there is the Dene version, the oral version as held by the Dene chiefs and the elders of the Treaty 8 region. The intent of the talks will determine whose version is the correct version. Whether that's going to be done through the courts or through negotiations remains to be seen, but I would expect that the federal government would probably take a very restricted view in their interpretation of the treaties, and the Dene will take the view that they've long held through the years. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Antoine.

Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister who is responsible for the buy north policy. With regard to the community of Fort Liard, this policy is not very flexible and not very reasonable. It doesn't use common sense when you live in Fort Liard, because 20 miles away is the BC border and with a two-hour drive by highway, you're in the community of Fort Nelson where the prices are a lot cheaper. That's where the community of Fort Liard has been buying all their goods in the past. Since this buy north policy came into effect, they have been in a dilemma about where they're going to get their goods. It's causing a lot of problems for them. It was brought to my attention and I would like to ask the Minister if this policy could be flexible enough to allow the community of Fort Liard to continue to buy their goods and supplies in Fort Nelson. Thank you.

The Speaker

Thank you. Minister of Public Works and Services, Mr. Morin.

Return To Question 62-12(5): Business Incentive Policy
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. People can buy their goods or food wherever they want, but if they're spending GNWT money on projects or business, then our policy will apply. There will be a percentage applied to their tenders. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Specifically, the problem is that government-funded operations like the school and the different government departments were buying supplies from Fort Nelson in the past. However, with this new buy north policy, it's costing them extra money to buy things from other places. The next

biggest centre is Fort Simpson, which is about a four-hour drive. In comparison, you have a four-hour drive and more expensive material, and a two-hour drive where you can buy things a lot cheaper. One of the purposes of the government is to try to save money and you balance that by trying to buy in the north. It doesn't make sense for citizens in Fort Liard. That is the problem we have. Is the Minister willing to look at this situation and see if we can be flexible and reasonable in some of the policies that we have been passing? Thank you.