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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister said in a statement last week that Cape Dorset is planning on being on line with some of their community transfer initiatives on April 1 of this year. Is that target date realistic? Will there be agreements in place? What is the status of Cape Dorset?

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

What I've committed politically to Cape Dorset is that we will sign a transfer agreement covering their move to take over Social Services, Economic Development, Housing and Public Works, by April 1. There is an overall agreement that this can happen but there are specific outstanding issues we need to work out. The departments still have some concerns in specific areas and so does Cape Dorset. What we've agreed is that we will sign the transfer agreement by then and the agreement will be general in some areas.

It will require a joint leap of faith to say that outstanding issues left unresolved will be taken care of in a cooperative spirit. If there is anything in the transfer agreement that comes up later to the detriment of the community, it will be interpreted to mean that this government did not intentionally negotiate it to be that way.

There will be a political understanding that it was intended to mean good things for both sides and it will be negotiated to reflect that as we go along. They do need some kind of definitive package fairly soon to keep the morale of their community up. They've been hoping for this for well over a year and we appreciate all the hard work they've done so we've said we would be prepared to do that. We can't dot every "i" before we move into this. There has to be some demonstration of goodwill. Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Kakfwi. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the Minister how much money has been spent on community transfer initiatives to date.

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The Chair Jim Antoine

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

I don't have the numbers here with me that indicate amounts since we started. I would have to look it up in last year's budget and in my books to find that figure.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Kakfwi. Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To make things quicker, maybe when the Minister comes before us again with his

departmental staff, we could get a breakdown of expenditures by community and the amounts for things like community travel, consultants and that sort of thing. It would provide a lot of information that will probably be requested.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ng. Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

The total amount of money we spent to date is $429,900, of which $335,400, or 78 per cent, has been spent in what we call western communities. A total of $94,500, or 22 per cent, has been spent in the east. We've held 37 per cent of the general workshops in the east, and in the west we've held about 39 per cent of them. In the preliminary talks for community transfer initiatives, they've been held in 79 per cent of western communities and about 67 per cent of the eastern communities.

For more specific program workshops, for instance in Social Services and Economic Development, about 11 per cent of eastern communities have had them. So, three out of 27 have gone to the stage of having specific program workshops to discuss, for instance, the transfer of Social Services or Housing. In the west, nine out of 33 communities, or 27 per cent, have had this type of workshop. The differences between the east and the west is there are 27 communities in the east and 33 in the west. That shows a big expenditure for western communities and not as much for the east. But, as we say, we respond to specific community interest and it has been dominantly in the west that they've taken this initiative at this time.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. The chair recognizes Mr. Lewis.

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

I would like to move that we report progress, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

We have a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is not debatable. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

I will rise and report progress.

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The Speaker

Item 20, report of committee of the whole.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Madam Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 1 and Committee Report 2-12(5) and would like to report progress. Madam Speaker, I move that the report of the committee of the whole be concurred with.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Is there a seconder for the motion? The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Zoe. The motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 21, third reading of bills. Item 22, orders of the day, Mr. Clerk.

Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

February 20th, 1994

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Madam Speaker, there will be a meeting of the Western Caucus at 6:00 pm this evening and of the Constitutional Development Steering Committee Working Group at 7:30 this evening. At 9:00 am tomorrow morning of Caucus, at 10:15 of the Striking Committee and at 10:30 of the Ordinary Members' Caucus. Orders of the day for Tuesday, February 22, 1994.

1. Prayer

2. Ministers' Statements

3. Members' Statements

4. Returns to Oral Questions

5. Oral Questions

6. Written Questions

7. Returns to Written Questions

8. Replies to Opening Address

9. Replies to Budget Address

10. Petitions

11. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

12. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

13. Tabling of Documents

14. Notices of Motion

15. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills

16. Motions

17. First Reading of Bills

18. Second Reading of Bills

19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

- Bill 1, Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1994-95

- Committee Report 2-12(5), Review of the 1994-95 Main Estimates

- Minister's Statement 5-12(5), Session Business

- Tabled Document 1-12(5), Towards an NWT Mineral Strategy - Tabled Document 2-12(5), Building and Learning Strategy

- Tabled Document 3-12(5), Towards a Strategy to 2010: A Discussion Paper

- Tabled Document 11-12(5), First Annual Report of the Languages Commissioner of the NWT for the Year

1992-93

20. Report of Committee of the Whole

21. Third Reading of Bills

22. Orders of the Day

Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until Tuesday, February 22 at 1:30 pm.

---ADJOURNMENT