This is page numbers 303 - 337 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Members Present

Mr. Allooloo, Mr. Antoine, Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq, Mr. Arvaluk, Mr. Ballantyne, Hon. Nellie Cournoyea, Mr. Dent, Mr. Gargan, Hon. Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Koe, Mr. Lewis, Hon. Jeannie Marie-Jewell, Hon. Don Morin, Hon. Richard Nerysoo, Mr. Ng, Mr. Ningark, Hon. John Pollard, Mr. Pudlat, Mr. Pudluk, Hon. John Todd, Mr. Whitford, Mr. Zoe

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The Speaker

Good afternoon. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Amittuq, Mr. Allooloo.

Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Members of the Nunavut Caucus have been provided with a copy of a letter written to the federal Minister of National Defence and the federal Minister of Supply and Services from James Eetoolook, acting president of Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated. Madam Speaker, the letter protests the awarding of a contract to operate core campsites in 1994 to a Quebec firm rather than Avati, a subsidiary of Nunasi Corporation and the Inuvialuit Development Corporation which makes it 100 per cent Inuit owned.

Avati carried out the contract successfully last year, which was to erect, maintain and disassemble working camps for other contractors that were upgrading or constructing the new Distant Early Warning stations. Avati completed this task with a workforce made up of 82 per cent Inuit. This contract is worth several million dollars, Madam Speaker, and it is the first large contract awarded by the federal government in Nunavut since the ratification of the Nunavut land claims.

Section 24 of the land claim commits the federal government to not only include Inuit firms in the solicitization of bids, but also commits the federal government to develop, implement and maintain policies to provide support and assistance to Inuit firms to compete for government contracts. It was agreed that these policies would be in place one year from ratification of the claim which is coming up this summer. Madam Speaker, it is very disheartening that these policies to provide support to Inuit companies to compete for government contracts have been completely disregarded in the awarding of this contract. We had expected that the spirit expressed...

The Speaker

Sorry, Mr. Allooloo, your time has lapsed.

Titus Allooloo Amittuq

I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

The Speaker

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Allooloo.

Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you, Members. We had expected that the spirit expressed during the negotiations would have been maintained. I'm extremely disappointed that the federal government has chosen to award such a major contract to an outside firm when it has been clearly demonstrated that Avati has the ability to carry out the work in a very satisfactory manner. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker

Thank you. I would like to recognize the grade six class from N. J. Macpherson school here in Yellowknife and their teacher Karen Johnson. Welcome to our Assembly.

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Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Baffin South, Mr. Pudlat.

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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to stand today and make a Member's statement. I was invited to the annual conference of the Pauktuutit Women's Association but I have other commitments. I would like them to know that I haven't forgotten their invitation and I would like to apologize for not being able to attend their annual general meeting. I would be able to attend at some other time. I would like to apologize that I can not attend and I would like to assure them I will be able to attend at some other time.

I know that they have a lot of work to accomplish which is very important in the world of events and they work very hard on important issues and they will be able to work on those issues at this conference. At this time, Madam Speaker, I would like to apologize to them. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Whitford.

Judging A Public Speaking Contest
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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, yesterday evening I had the pleasure of serving as a

judge for the public speaking contest at St. Joseph's School in Yellowknife South. Students from grades four, five and six made public speeches on a variety of subjects, everything from the future, pollution to subjects like tigers and jet planes, including one called "My Dog Rudy." Madam Speaker, I don't think I could have found a better way to spend two and half hours than to be there to listen to those young people practising public speaking.

Because I was a judge, I had to be critical and I had a list from which I had to award points for a variety of things from effectiveness of opening, subject material, choice of words, clearness of speech, grammatical accuracy, posture, gestures and, of course, effectiveness of endings. Not only did I enjoy being there, but I also learned quite a bit. I watched these young people performing their role in speaking on a subject of their choice and I marvelled at the talent that was going to come out of that contest and the preparation that these young people are undertaking through their teachers and the contest for their future in public life.

I just wanted to congratulate them for their efforts.

Not only did they learn, but I also learned quite a bit from them. I learned a few things not only from the subject matter but on how to public speak from them. I invited them to come over to the Assembly some day to watch their Members and maybe give some points to us on our performances. The contest will continue for the rest of the week as we get into the senior grades. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Lewis.

The Federal Budget Address
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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Most people who listened to the Finance Minister's budget speech yesterday were struck by the fact that probably a lot more was unsaid than was said. One of the things that was highlighted was the fact that they are going to reorganize the military, reduce it and eliminate racism. One of the good pieces of news in that budget address was that a whole squadron of twin otter planes would be located right here in Yellowknife. Many of us for years have said -- especially my friend Mr. Whitford -- that safety and rescue in this part of the world should be given a far higher priority than it is, with the expectation that there will be a lot of activity in this part of the world over the next several years.

This should be considered a welcome move that we have now 160 people moving into the city to replace all of those people that our government has decided should work somewhere else. It is good news for this community because when we listened to the speech yesterday, no one could see anything good in it. But for this city, there is a lot of good and it is very welcome news.

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Some Hon. Members

Hear, hear.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Antoine.

The Development Of An NWT Fur Strategy
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Today I would like to express my concern about the fur industry. I know the Minister responsible has been to Brussels and Strasbourg and has been telling us the situation we find ourselves in as a result of leghold trap regulations from the European Parliament that we have tried to abide by.

Through research, Madam Speaker, I found out in the last four years the Government of the Northwest Territories has spent about $900,000 to buy about 70,000 quick kill traps. These traps were exchanged in the north. Further, there was about $1 million spent in workshops to train the trappers in how to use these new methods of trapping. In all, there is about $1.9 million spent to date on complying with the regulations established in Europe.

I am told there is an NWT fur strategy being developed, as a result of a study that was done last year. I just hope that instead of continuing to spend money to comply with the European Parliament regulations, this government sees fit to try to establish the fur industry in the north by developing a plan of action on how to process the furs in the north, so we can have a northern fur industry. I know our furs in the north have been sent down south to be mixed with the southern furs, which I hear are not as good quality as our northern furs. Therefore, the price of our furs has dropped to bring the price in the south up. In the long run, our trappers are losing out.

We should be focusing on doing it ourselves instead of depending solely on the European market to buy our furs. I would like to stress to the Minister to look into this area in developing an NWT fur strategy. Mahsi, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Gargan.

Judicial System In The Nwt
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, in recent weeks I have spent a considerable amount of time thinking about the state of the correctional system in the Northwest Territories. Madam Speaker, the entire judicial process in the Northwest Territories is seen as a confusing system of conflicting European values by the majority of aboriginal people who run into trouble with it.

Madam Speaker, we, as a government, have a responsibility to tailor our programs and services to reflect the cultural identity of those it's suppose to serve. We have failed in this regard. So now, Madam Speaker, with that said, what do we do to alleviate the problems that make the situation of our correctional system culturally and morally irrelevant?

Madam Speaker, the system as it stands now is designed to incarcerate people in a facility that is usually far away from the home town of the offender. Granted, Madam Speaker, that some of the programs offered by the correctional centre, such as alcohol counselling and educational upgrading, are good programs. It nonetheless remains a fact that by the very nature of the correctional centre, it confines a person to a certain geographic area. By doing that, we provide no opportunity for the offender to make restitution to the community or to the victim. Sometimes by incarcerating a person, we create more of a hardship on their family than a long sentence accomplishes in rehabilitating.

There must be a way to split a sentence so an offender spends a certain amount of time behind bars and an equal amount of time making restitution to his victim. Maybe some sort of day parole system so that when a person is not working or making restitution to his family or victim, they are confined to house arrest.

We, as a government, must take the initiative...

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The Speaker

I am sorry, Mr. Gargan, your time has lapsed.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Madam Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to complete my statement.

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The Speaker

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and Members. We, as a government, must take the initiative. We have to take a holistic approach for corrections in the Northwest Territories. Madam Speaker, I don't only mean corrections, the community or the individual as a whole, but the family as a whole. By continuing with band aid solutions, such as incarceration, we do little to solve the problem.

Let me give you an example. In the old days, when the elders' or women's council placed a sentence on an individual, that individual always knew that when their sentence was over, they would be accepted as a full member of the community again. Now there is no opportunity for the victims or offenders to go through this healing process. Madam Speaker, our present system does not address the concerns of those it is suppose to serve. We must take steps to change it. Mahsi cho.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik, Mr. Koe.

Ed&t Classification Of Communities
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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. I rise today, Madam Speaker, to talk about the existing classification of communities by the Department of Economic Development and Tourism. The system of classification of communities by the department was initiated in 1986 as part of the Economic Development and Tourism strategy. This classification system was used solely in relation to the business development fund policy.

In 1991, the communities were grouped into level I, level II and level III communities. In 1991, the policy was revised and the grouping of communities were made according to socio-economic indicators, such as population, per capita income, unemployment rates and the number of businesses in that community. If a business needed financial assistance from the department, they were required to contribute some form of equity. The equity requirements were determined by the community groupings. For example, residents in a level I community were required to put more money in than ones in a level III community.

When the business development fund was revised in September 1993, the requirement for grouping communities was also changed to recognize the level of existing business infrastructure in a community, and the road or transportation links into that community. This was done as a result of requests from clients and regional staff. That the policy better recognizes the potential for new economic and business development, rather than focus on the existing well-being of the community.

Under the 1993 revision, equity requirements remain linked to the community groupings, however the list of community groups was removed and instead the Minister issues instructions regarding the regrouping of communities whenever required.

Madam Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to continue.