This is page numbers 303 - 337 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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John Pollard Hay River

Madam Speaker, there were numerous calls from the press to all Finance Ministers across the country, to talk to us after Mr. Martin's speech. I was accosted yesterday, if I can call it that, by the press in the hall and discussed it with them. I was asked by CBC to be on the radio show this morning. I did that. Madam Speaker, I don't mean to be offensive to Members of the House, but when the press asks me a question, I usually try to answer it. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Lewis.

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Not everyone listens to CBC. There are the other radio stations.

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An Hon. Member

(Microphone turned off)

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Maybe not as well known, but there are other radio stations. So I would like to ask the Minister of Finance, since he was well prepared to talk to CBC this morning, could he tell us what he broadcast to the public-at-large this morning on CBC Radio?

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The Speaker

Thank you. Minister of Finance, Mr. Pollard.

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The first part of the conversation with Randy was with regard to the good news and the bad news, Madam Speaker. I indicated what was good for the Northwest Territories and what was bad for the Northwest Territories. After that, I was asked about payroll taxes, my impression of the federal budget, had I been expecting something different or had we been warned by Mr. Martin and did he do what he warned us about. That was the end of the interview, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Whitford.

Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a question I would like to direct to the Minister responsible for Transportation. It is an issue I have raised before, and some of my constituents are concerned or have made inquiries about it. It is not a matter of urgent concern, Madam Speaker, but it is a matter that is quite important, and it deals with donor cards on drivers' licenses. The issue had been raised prior to this House and at other times, and it seems to not be making any progress. I had asked the Minister, and I pointed out some statistics to him on previous occasions. I would like to know whether there is any progress being made to this request to have donor cards on the back of drivers' licenses, because we all know that it is an important service to people and that this service should be assisted. I just wondered if there is any progress being made, Madam Speaker.

The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Whitford. You asked your question three times. Minister of Transportation, Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The honourable Member did ask this question in the last session. The Department of Transportation is currently exploring the possibility of establishing an organ donor program.

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An Hon. Member

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---Laughter

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I don't dare. Anyway, I was going to nickname it that, but I thought I had better not.

---Laughter

However, there is a recognition of the seriousness of the issue and we are currently reviewing, the actual doing of...Excuse me, Madam Speaker.

---Laughter

I will start again. The Department of Transportation is responding to the honourable Member's request and is exploring the possibility of an organ donor card on the back of drivers' licenses. We are looking at the possibilities of doing that, however, it is not as simple as simply putting the information on the back of a card. We have to look at the logistics in the Northwest Territories and the difficulties if something should come about, but we are exploring it. At this time, I don't have a definitive response for the honourable Member but, hopefully, by the end of this session or some time in the early spring, we should be able to do that. We do recognize the importance of the issue. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Amittuq, Mr. Allooloo.

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like

to ask a question of the Minister responsible for Renewable Resources. The Minister has stated in this House that if you don't have the European markets for furs, then there is nothing else. This would have a great impact on our people, the Dene, Inuit and Metis people. The meeting of the Technical Committee on Setting Trapping Standards, in Ottawa, broke up last February. What caused the meeting to break up, Madam Speaker? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Mr. Allooloo, Mr. Antoine had asked the same question to the same Minister. I would like to ask if you are willing to rephrase your question. Thank you.

Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Technical Committee on Setting Trapping Standards is a very important committee which will make recommendations to the European Parliament. What will it take to get the technical committee working again? Thank you.

The Speaker

Thank you. Minister of Renewable Resources, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Speaker, the committee has done its work, and it is up to the members of that committee to take a vote. They have decided to defer taking a vote until a later date, and once they have taken the vote, which I hope will be to go ahead with the recommendations that certain standards be accepted by all the member countries of ISO, we can get on with the work of developing new traps, new standards for trapping and setting what are considered humane standards for the harvest and the trapping of animals internationally. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Allooloo.

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Is the word humane still being talked about, whether it should be in the trapping standard or not, and which countries would like to have the "humane" in there and which countries don't want it in there? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Minister of Renewable Resources, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Speaker, earlier I referred to anglo-saxon countries. For those that don't know who they are, some of the European parliamentarians that I have met said those are the people from Great Britain, from the Netherlands and from Germany. These are the ones that are considered to be Anglo-Saxon countries, and they are in the forefront of this animal rights movement in Europe. What I find is that the members elected by these countries to the European Parliament are the ones that are the most fanatical about animal rights. It is now becoming increasingly clear to me that now that they know it is possible to do some work that would come up with new, innovative ways of trapping animals and setting very acceptable levels of killing animals, they have now started a lobby to say that there is no such thing as acceptable standards, that there is no such thing as humane methods or standards for harvesting of wildlife, that all killing, all harvesting of wildlife is inhumane and, therefore, no standards are acceptable. This is what is happening.

The European Parliament is now on its last legs because in July, I believe, there will be elections across Europe for new Members. There are some 500 or 800 of them that are going to be elected. All those people that I have met from what you call the anglo-saxon countries have indicated to me that the predominant public opinion in their constituencies is that they have to act like they are very concerned about animal welfare and they have to demonstrate they are animal rights activists or public sentiment, at this time, will not see them re-elected.

I have raised the point that there were millions of people prior to the second world war that thought Hitler was the best thing that happened to Germany in a long time. There were millions of people, thousands that came out and thought it was a good thing, and, perhaps historically, some of them should stand up and show some backbone and say there are some moral obligations we have to people in this country and this world and that just because millions of Europeans feel that we should stop killing and trapping animals, does not mean it's right. We need some politicians with some backbone and some principle here. They said they were off to the election, and that's the last I saw of them. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Thank you. Time for question period has lapsed. At this time, I would also like to caution Members that once a question is asked during a session, the same type of question from another Member should not be made. Thank you. Item 6, written questions. Item 7, returns to written questions. Item 8, replies to opening address. Item 9, petitions. Item 10, reports of standing and special committees. Item 11, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 12, tabling of documents. Madam Premier.

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
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February 22nd, 1994

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, in response to Mr. Patterson's request for tabling of the December 1993 housing strategy, I wish to table the following, Tabled Document 25-12(5), A Long-term Staff Housing Strategy Summary of December 1993: Refinements and Initiatives. This summary outlines the three refinements and the two initiatives that were directed on December 16, 1993. To place these in context, a copy of the long-term staff housing strategy, reflecting the changes and amendments made during discussion and debate in the Assembly during February and March, 1993, is attached as an appendix. Thank you.