This is page numbers 45 - 54 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was services.

Supplementary To Question 35-12(5): Level Of Policing In Yellowknife
Question 35-12(5): Level Of Policing In Yellowknife
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Ballantyne. Minister of Justice, Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 35-12(5): Level Of Policing In Yellowknife
Question 35-12(5): Level Of Policing In Yellowknife
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Speaker, thank you. I know that, as the Minister of Justice, when I took over the portfolio, there is a need to review everything that you take the responsibility for, and to look at the work that needs to be done. I've done that in a systematic way in the area of corrections, which is a new arrival within the department. Policing is another one. I can tell the Member that I share the concern, and I hear the keenly veiled threat that I had better do something before something major happens as a result of lack of adequate police presence in Yellowknife. I should let the Member know, that is also the implication for many of the small communities that have zero RCMP presence. I've communicated to the RCMP in the meetings that I've had with them, that if they feel they can manage with what they have then I would like to see how they will propose to allocate the members they have, with the budget they have, to meet the demands of the city of Yellowknife, as well as the small communities. If there is simply a shortage of dollars and resources, that it is hitting the level at which there is significant danger to the public and to the people of the Northwest Territories because of inadequate, insufficient support in resourcing of the RCMP, this government and I need to be told that. That has been the message that has been given to the RCMP. We will be having meetings with them over the next while. They've indicated, for instance, that they would like to make some suggestions on how they might want to reorganize,

even locally, in trying to better meet the workload and the demands they see facing them. So, that is the indication I can give to the Member at this time. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 35-12(5): Level Of Policing In Yellowknife
Question 35-12(5): Level Of Policing In Yellowknife
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Whitford.

Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Recently, there have been some major changes in Ottawa, or suggestions in Ottawa, that the military bases be closed around the country as part of a federal cost-saving measure. While I recognize the fact that this government has no input into the military arrangements, it's between the Government of Canada. However, we do have some say in federal programs that are operated in the Northwest Territories, such as the RCMP, for example. Madam Speaker, I would like to direct my question to the Minister responsible for Justice in the territories, under whose general direction the RCMP fall. I would like to ask the Minister whether he's aware of any reorganization plans of the G division of the Northwest Territories to amalgamate with the Alberta divisions of RCMP as a cost-saving measure? Is the Minister aware of any such plans?

The Speaker

Thank you. Minister of Justice, Mr. Kakfwi.

Return To Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Speaker, the rumour hasn't reached me yet -- well, I should say it has now -- but I have not heard of it before. I certainly haven't seen anything from the department or the RCMP as any indication that a senior in Ottawa is contemplating such. Thank you.

Return To Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Whitford.

Supplementary To Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Such a plan, if it ever comes about, will greatly affect the level of service that the RCMP deliver in the Northwest Territories. Because we are serviced only by the RCMP, we don't have provincial police yet, I think it's important that the Department of Justice be informed of this. I wonder if the Minister will make efforts to make sure that consultation does take place with us before such a move is undertaken.

Supplementary To Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you, Mr. Whitford. Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Madam Speaker, I will ask the department to discretely inquire about it so I won't embarrass myself. If there is such a move afoot, then we will prepare ourselves accordingly. Mahsi.

Further Return To Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Question 36-12(5): Amalgamation Of Rcmp "g" Division With Alberta
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Gargan.

Question 37-12(5): Eligibility For Fuel Subsidy
Item 5: Oral Questions

February 8th, 1994

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Madam Speaker. On December 9 -- today is February 9, two months later -- I asked a question to the Minister of Social Services with regard to fuel subsidies. There seems to be some discrepancies on who is eligible and who is not. But I haven't received, to date, any kind of response or even an acknowledgement. I would like to ask the Minister, where is she at with regard to this eligibility for fuel subsidy?

The Speaker

Thank you, Minister of Social Services.

Return To Question 37-12(5): Eligibility For Fuel Subsidy
Question 37-12(5): Eligibility For Fuel Subsidy
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The eligibility is by age, and the seniors should let the office of Social Services know as soon as they become eligible. I believe it is at age 60. Thank you.

Return To Question 37-12(5): Eligibility For Fuel Subsidy
Question 37-12(5): Eligibility For Fuel Subsidy
Item 5: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. Item 6, written questions. Item 7, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

Item 7: Returns To Written Questions
Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Madam Speaker, Return to Written Question 1-12(5) and Return to Written Question 2-12(5), asked by Mr. Patterson to the Minister of Personnel and the Minister of Public Works and Services, concerning the assessment of all housing units for energy efficiency and state of repair.

Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

This is in response to a question asked by Mr. Patterson on December 14, 1993 regarding the assessment of all housing units for energy efficiency and state of repair. All "White Row Housing" staff units were assessed during 1993. Inspections were carried out by a team made up of representatives of the departments of Public Works and Services, Personnel and the NWT Housing Corporation.

Two of these units, numbers 404 and 501, were found to have deficiencies with the result that rents on these units were reduced by $17.00 and $40.00 per month respectively. When the deficiencies have been corrected, the rents will revert to normal.

Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

This is in response to a question asked by Mr. Patterson on December 14, 1993 regarding the assessment of all housing units for energy efficiency and state of repair. All "White Row Housing" staff units were assessed during 1993. Inspections were carried out by a team made up of representatives of the departments of Public Works and Services, Personnel and the NWT Housing Corporation.

Two of these units, numbers 404 and 501, were found to have deficiencies with the result that rents on these units were reduced by $17.00 and $40.00 per month respectively. When the deficiencies have been corrected, the rents will revert to normal.

Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Return to Written Question 3-12(5), Madam Speaker, asked by Mr. Antoine to the Minister of Renewable Resources, concerning results of harvest of big game in the Northwest Territories.

Non-resident hunters may only harvest adult male Dahl sheep, caribou and moose, therefore, no ewes or moose bull calves are killed by non-resident hunters. The harvest of Dahl sheep, caribou and moose by non-resident hunters in each Mackenzie Mountain outfitting area in the last year was: outfitting area E/1-1, 34 sheep, 13 caribou, four moose; outfitting area E/1-2, 20 sheep, 25 caribou, 6 moose; outfitting area E/1-3, 32 sheep, 44 caribou, 9 moose; outfitting area E/1-4, 22 sheep, 21 caribou, nine moose; outfitting area E/1-5, 12 sheep, 36 caribou, eight moose; outfitting area E/1-6, 37 sheep, 18 caribou, one moose; outfitting area E/1-7, 24 sheep, 12 caribou, five moose; outfitting area E/1-8, 16 sheep, six caribou, four moose, for a total of 197 sheep, 175 caribou and 46 moose.

No black bears were harvested by non-resident hunters. Non-resident hunters may not hunt grizzly bear. One problem grizzly bear was killed and reported in E/1-7.

The meat from sheep, caribou and moose is eaten in camp (20,000 pounds), exported by hunters (10,500 pounds) and outfitters (6,000 pounds) and also distributed among communities. The six northern outfitters provided about 15,000 pounds of meat to Sahtu communities. Some meat was provided by the outfitter from E/1-8 to Nahanni Butte.

All meat and trophies taken out of the Northwest Territories require export permits. The meat and trophies are inspected and tagged and then sent home with the hunters, most of whom are not Canadian.

In the Sahtu region, export permits are issued either at the Norman Wells office of the Department of Renewable Resources or the department's seasonal check station at Mile 222 on the Canol Road. In the Deh Cho region, export permits are issued either at the Fort Simpson office of the Department of Renewable Resources of the department's seasonal check station at Flat Lake.

The following three people have been employed by the big game outfitters: Sahtu, Andrew Horassi (E/1-3) and Stewart Pope (E/1-1); and, Gwich'in, Keith Colin (E/1-1).

Mr. Colin was employed for two years and in the last two years, has been offered employment but not accepted. No people from Deh Cho have been employed. Outfitters have advertised to hire and train guides, however, few people have shown interest, possibly because guide wages are low and guides do not go home during the three month season.

The Speaker

Thank you. Item 8, replies to opening address. Item 9, petitions. Item 10, reports of standing and

special committees. Item 11, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 12, tabling of documents. Mr. Kakfwi.

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Speaker. As required by subsection 55(2) of the Legal Profession Act, I wish to table the following document, Tabled Document 13-12(5), 11th Annual Report of the Northwest Territories Law Foundation, for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1993.

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 12, tabling of documents. Madam Premier.

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Safety and Public Services, the Honourable Richard Nerysoo, I wish to table the following document, Tabled Document 14-12(5), 39th Annual Report of the Northwest Territories Liquor Commission, for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1993.

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

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The Speaker

Thank you. Item 12, tabling of documents. Item 13, notices of motion. Item 14, notices of motions for first reading of bills. Item 15, motions. Madam Premier.

Item 12: Tabling Of Documents
Item 12: Tabling Of Documents

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, February 14, 1994, the Honourable John Pollard will deliver the budget address. Thank you. I believe I'm in the wrong section here.