This is page numbers 753 - 787 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was development.

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Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Arvaluk.

Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Mr. Minister stated a little bit earlier that the training succession strategy is planned again for the next year and a half. I understand that Mr. Graham is essential to assist in developing and implementing this strategy. Why will it take so long to formulate and implement a new training succession strategy?

Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Minister Todd.

Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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John Todd Keewatin Central

It is a very important position. It administers, as I said, to all the private development corporations in the region, and it is there. Our outside estimation is that it will take two years to do the training. I have spoken with Mr. Graham directly, however, I have to talk to the presidents of the associated development corporations. I have asked for a meeting with them as soon as the session finishes to see if we can speed up this process and move quickly to see the secondment concluded.

Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Todd. Any further comment, Mr. Arvaluk?

Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My last comment is that it is more of an individual program. Why is the completion of the Kiguti program dependent on the continued secondment of Mr. Graham?

Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Minister Todd.

Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Piruqsaijit is providing the consultative and administrative support to the dental clinic program, Kiguti, which is owned and operated by northerners, for now. His expertise in fiscal management is important to that operation to make sure that it gets off on a sound fiscal footing. Thank you.

Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Todd. Member from Kitikmeot.

Committee Motion 31-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 10, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think that the Minister has recognized the concerns that have been brought forward by the Members of the Standing Committee on Finance. I would like to end the discussion by proposing a motion on behalf of the Standing Committee on Finance and some comments on this matter, if you will allow me, Mr. Chairman.

Standing Committee On Finance Comments

The Standing Committee on Finance has very serious concerns about continuing the secondment of a government employee to Piruqsaijit. The 1994-95 fiscal year is the sixth year in which the government has supported this organization through secondment. Total expenditures on this item will reach $579,000 at the end of the 1994-95 fiscal year. Given the organization's extreme dependence on this individual and the fact that funding will be required very soon, the Standing Committee on Finance is reluctantly prepared to recommend approval of this budget item for the fiscal year 1994-95, currently under review. However, the committee is not prepared to support continuing this arrangement into the 1995- 96 fiscal year. Members feel that it is imperative that this corporation become self-sufficient and cease to rely on government support. Therefore, Mr. Chairman, the Standing Committee on Finance is making the following motion.

Committee Motion 32-12(5): To Implement A Strategy To Terminate Piruqsaijit Secondment By End Of 1994-95 Fiscal Year, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

March 21st, 1994

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Therefore I move that the committee recommends that the Department of Economic Development and Tourism develop and implement a strategy to terminate the Piruqsaijit secondment by the end of the 1994-95 fiscal year. The committee further recommends that the Minister provide this strategy to the Standing Committee on Finance by August 1, 1993.

The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you.

An Hon. Member

(Microphone turned off)

The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

That is correct. Thank you, Mr. Ng. It should read August 1, 1994. We have a motion on the floor. The motion is in order.

An Hon. Member

Question.

The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called, but we need a quorum. We have nine to vote. We need four more. We will sound the bells.

Thank you, Members. The motion is, I move that the committee recommends that the Department of Economic Development and Tourism develop and implement a strategy to terminate the Piruqsaijit secondment by the end of the 1994-95 fiscal year. The committee further recommends that the Minister provide this strategy to the Standing Committee on Finance by August 1, 1994.

The motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

We are on page 17-18, detail of grants and contributions, grants, $350,000.

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Contributions. It's information. On page 17-20, details of grants and contributions, contributions, $14,000, I'm sorry, $14.029 million.

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Grants and contributions. Mr. Patterson.

Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Yes, have we got to the Development Corporation, Mr. Chairman? I have a few questions.

The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Yes, Mr. Patterson. Economic development. We'll do this fast. It is on page 17-20, details of grants and contributions, and then there is a list of the grants, then the contributions of $14.029 million, which was agreed to. Yes, Mr. Patterson, Member for Iqaluit.

Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

I would like to ask a few questions about the Development Corporation. Okay, Mr. Chairman, there are quite a number of questions, and I have given quite a list to the Minister, Mr. Chairman, but I would just like to ask a few here now, and, hopefully, I can get answers to my other questions from the Minister and also from a visit I hope to make to Pangnirtung myself.

Mr. Chairman, one real irritating issue from my constituent, which, by the way, is a northern-owned, northern-operated company based in Iqaluit which has not sought heavy government support, but does also want to participate in the development of the fishery and compete against the Development Corporation funded enterprise in Pangnirtung. My constituent has raised one concern I think the Minister is aware of. The company, Imavik, says that, although Imavik is a dealer for insulated boxes used by the fishermen to bring the product from the floe edge, and although the fishermen in previous years took responsibility for purchasing those boxes themselves -- which tends to be the way the industry works in Canada, fishermen are responsible for their own equipment -- last year, a decision was made by Pangnirtung Fisheries, the government-supported company, that they would purchase some 125 insulated fibreglass fish boxes, which they bought and shipped from southern Canada, I am told, at a cost of some $500 a box or around $60,000. That is not a small investment for a struggling small business like my constituent. The concern, Mr. Chairman, is that my constituent says that fishermen were informed at a community meeting first that they could use the new fish boxes and sell to whomever they choose, but after the fact, the management of Pangnirtung Fisheries, the Development Corporation-funded corporation, told the fishermen that they could only sell their fish to the one company. They would not be allowed to use these taxpayer-funded fish boxes to sell to my constituent's buyers. Are these facts correct, as they have been described to me? If so, do they illustrate market disruption by a government-funded enterprise? Thank you.

The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Member for Iqaluit. Minister Todd.