It is good to be reminded of a little history to put things into perspective. It is always painful to go back over that type of history. The reality is here now. The Deh Cho have taken the position that they want to pursue. If the Minister is very optimistic, what he said here today clears a lot of these misunderstandings up. If he was able to articulate those words to the Deh Cho leadership directly and maybe to the Treaty 8, perhaps they might be more open for discussion in the future. What I am hearing is good. I just wanted to say that this ministry has to work closer with these two groups because they have taken specific directions on how they want to approach self-government, land claims and it needs a lot of discussion. It is going to be hard to go in there and tell them they have taken the wrong approach. The people the Minister has working in this department has to be able to communicate very well with the leaders of the Deh Cho. That is lacking right now. I don't really know why his department was kicked out of the room when they were talking about self-government, perhaps
they don't trust the people who are there. If that is the case, they are going to have to work on building up that trust somehow.
As for Treaty 8 First Nations not wanting to meet with the Minister, why is that? There have to be reasons for the type of positions that these different aboriginal groups have taken. They don't just do it because they feel like it. There have to be reasons. The way to overcome that is more open dialogue between this government department and the Deh Cho and Treaty 8 First Nations. Those are general comments on this one, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.