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Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

That's the dilemma that you have. We've been trying to propose this issue...I'll give you one example: a 45-hour on-the-land program could be five days based on the suggestion you made. On the other hand, it could be eight days if you took it on a five-hour program. If you did it on a four, it could be ten days. That's what we are saying and that's the dilemma you have in the way we are trying to propose it.

I am trying to accommodate the recommendation of the committee by doing it in 126 to be more flexible. That's what I am trying to do.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. To the motion. Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I need a little more clarification then. Who is responsible to set the number of instructional days in a year?

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Without any amendments, the Minister sets the instructional time. The DEA responds to those hours set by establishing their calendar.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mixing days and hours in here -- and I am trying to deal with the motion on the day, not the number of hours -- who is responsible to set the number of instructional days? I heard the Minister say he is. Who is responsible, then, to determine the number of instructional hours that make up an instructional day? Is it the Minister or the education authority?

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. The Minister sets the standards. The DEA sets the calendar.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. To the motion. Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Fred Koe Inuvik

The calendar...Does that mean the hours? I am just trying to determine where hours come in and who is responsible to set the hours in a day. My colleague on my right said before that for kindergarten, it's three hours a day, or it could be two hours a day. Who determines whether it's two hours a day or three hours a day, or two hours and fifteen minutes? Who is responsible to make that decision?

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Let's start, Mr. Chairman, from the beginning.

---Laughter

The motion on the floor says 190 days. The problem with it -- and we have been trying to explain this before -- is with the way the system works. Even in credit courses, they do not consider days; they consider hours. We also set, for our kindergarten, right now, a maximum of three hours of instruction, and a midpoint of 5.25 and a 5.5.

The calendar that the school sets is based on the actual days in which instruction will be offered, the holidays, when school opens, when school closes, when it ends and when it begins in terms of the day. That's what happens now. Those are work days. Those are work calendar days. It's not simply a matter of a day. That's what happens. That's why it's complex in terms of trying to do this, because instructional time is different than this is in trying to address the matter of the calendar days. What you are dealing with is trying to deal with the instructional time. That's a problem.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. To the motion. Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 70-12(7): To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Fred Koe Inuvik

The more it's explained, the more confusing it gets. So I would like to move that we report progress to sleep on it and think about this.