This is page numbers 1471 - 1524 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was ---agreed.

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Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to clause 113, which reads '"Where the Minister is of the opinion that an education body is not adequately exercising its powers" this clause, all five sections of it, describes how the Minister can get involved with the education body if it's not performing its duties. I would like to ask the Minister, through you, Mr. Chairman, if he could explain to me what this clause is replacing in the current act. Is it giving more authority and strength to the Minister to do investigations and give direction to an education body, if it is seen that it is not operating well? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The authority to dissolve is in existence right now; I have the ability to do that. What we are now including is the investigative authority, so we can deal with the matter of communication and remedy some of the problems that exist. The fact is, our investigations may prove that circumstances are such that the body of authority may not be responsible for some of the things that are going on. On the other hand, they may be totally responsible, so we have to make judgements based on that information and on the discussions we have with those we're consulting. It gives us the investigative component, which we didn't have before. In other words, we didn't have an ability to talk to the community, ask questions, and get into the investigations into the depth that is necessary. What we're trying to do here is add an investigative authority that wasn't there before. I can advise the honourable Member that there have been no dissolutions in 18 years, after assessments. There are situations we have just encountered as an Assembly, where certain boards ... I don't want to talk about them, but I think investigations of the boards would have been better. I think things would have worked out sooner and better had we had that responsibility. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Antoine.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Chairman, in clause 113, regarding the wording "Were the Minister of the opinion," how does the Minister form his or her opinion? Is it in consultation with the staff and his department? Is it in consultation with communities? How is this opinion to be formed? Thank you.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Mr. Antoine, are you all right? Mr. Koe, you are all right. Mr. Antoine.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Chairman, I asked a question to the Minister.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Sorry. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 21st, 1995

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

The issue of opinions is always subjective. It depends on the facts, whether or not it is community concerns that are raised, public concerns, a district raising concerns about the conduct of the divisional board, et cetera. It could be some of the financial information we are getting indicating that there are problems in terms of fiscal responsibility. It could be that we are getting reports in which the student progress is such that we are unhappy with the results. Those are all considerations. We need to get all the information before a Minister can make any kind of decision. It has to be clear that whatever occurs, the Minister is acting fairly and with due consideration of all the facts and issues. If not, the Minister could find himself in court as quick as anything. It is one thing for people to put forward the facts and issues as they are; it is another thing to accuse innocent people of certain conduct without the information before you. We have to be very careful on the utilization of this authority. Those are considerations: the facts and the issues.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Clause 113.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Clause 114.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Clause 115.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Clause 116.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Clause 117. Mrs. Thompson and then Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want clarification of an education body. Is that a CEC; community education council? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Thompson. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

The education bodies, as defined in the definitions, are district education authorities, divisional education councils and the commission. Those are the three defined under that definition. It is at the beginning of the act.

Committee Motion 89-12(7): To Amend Clause 103 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. The chair recognizes the Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake, Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 90-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 117 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that we defer consideration of clause 117.

Committee Motion 90-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 117 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. We have a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 90-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 117 Of Bill 25, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 90-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 117 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? It has been brought to my attention that we do not have a quorum.

Thank you, Members. We have a motion on the floor to defer clause 117. The motion is in order. To the motion,