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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Before we go to oral questions, I have a ruling I would like to make.

Speaker's Ruling

(Translation) I have taken some time to consider the circumstances that occurred on May 2nd. At the end of question period of May 2nd, I made the following comment which is contained on page 407 of unedited Hansard, and I quote:

"Question period is now over. To remind Members, I know I have allowed Mr. Picco to ask further questions, but I am trying to even out question period so all Members are given the same equal opportunities."

During the item tabling of documents, the Member for Iqaluit, Mr. Picco, tabled a document numbered 29-13(3). In the Member's tabling statement, he indicated the following which is contained on page 408 of the unedited Hansard, and I quote Mr. Picco's tabling statement:

"Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table Tabled Document 29-13(3), concerning question period. Mr. Speaker, this tabled document states that question period should be extended for a duration allowing each Member a chance to ask as many questions as needed for the democratic process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker."

When the Member for Iqaluit made this statement, I indicated, without seeing the tabled document, the following:

"Are you challenging the chair? I will have to look at the tabled document further before the chair makes any kind of ruling regarding the tabled document. It will be reviewed." (Translation ends)

I have since had an opportunity to review the tabled document and find that Mr. Picco did not, in his tabling statement or within the content of the tabled document, challenge the chair, so there is no need for me to rule further on this matter.

I would, however, like to indicate to the Member for Iqaluit and other Members, if they have a concern with any of the rules of the Assembly, that they are free to raise the matter with the Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and Privileges.

While I have your attention, I would like to indicate, as Speaker, that during question period I endeavour to be as fair as possible when recognizing Members to ask an oral question. I can understand a Member's frustration that I may not have your name on the list, but I can assure you that if I see you your name will go on the chair's list and I will ensure that, within the time limit allowed, questions are fairly and proportionally distributed amongst all Members.

Also, I would like to remind Members that the initial question to a Minister should contain a preamble that would provide the framework and background to the actual question. Each Member is entitled to ask three supplementary questions on the same original question. The purpose of the supplementary questions is to obtain clarification of the answer or answers provided by the Minister to whom the original question was directed and should, therefore, not require a preamble. If Members require further clarification, I would draw your attention to the rule books that were provided to all Members and specifically to the section on procedural information where you will find information on question period which may be of assistance.

If all Members are a little more diligent in adhering to the application of the rules, I am confident that the democratic process will not be impeded in any way. I thank you for your attention.

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate your ruling and will abide by your statement. I didn't mean to propose to challenge the chair, and I apologize for anything that I put you through. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, my frustration level is reaching its zenith with the following line of questioning. Once again, I burned the midnight oil in the library looking for the ever-elusive list of contracts which I have now spent a week asking about, which I've been assured is tabled annually in this House. Ever the bloodhound, I finally discovered an item tabled March 4, 1993, entitled "Government Services and Public Works Contracts Negotiated in 1992-93." Further, I found the second item, titled "Report on Negotiated Contracts Awarded by the Department of Transportation in 1992-93, 1993-94." These were the only documents I discovered when reviewing tabled documents for the past five years.

I assume that tabling lists of contracts by this government is sporadic at best. Would the Premier be willing to reaffirm his commitment to ensure the list of both sole-source and negotiated contracts are tabled in this House annually? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me assure the Member that I will make sure that Members of this House will have access to that information. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I enjoy having access so I can find something. Would the Premier be willing to publish this comprehensive list of all negotiated and sole-source contracts annually in the public accounts report? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 169-13(3): Tabling Of All GNWT Contracts
Question 169-13(3): Tabling Of All GNWT Contracts
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like I told the Member earlier ... and I, too, did a little bit of research after question period yesterday and I discovered that that information was traditionally shared with the SCOF committee and it is now shared with that committee that has the mandate for dealing with contracts in this government. So I would be happy to share that same information with this Member. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, as I've stated, it can be shared with the Standing Committee on Government Operations which I have the pleasure of serving on but, Mr. Speaker, those documents aren't being tabled. So I'm asking the Minister again, will he publish the sole-source and negotiated contracts of this government, public money spent for the public use, public good, in the public accounts report which they are not presently being published?

Supplementary To Question 169-13(3): Tabling Of All GNWT Contracts
Question 169-13(3): Tabling Of All GNWT Contracts
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would be happy to share with this House all negotiated contracts entered into by this government. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you.

Final supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 169-13(3): Tabling Of All GNWT Contracts
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I would like to say that I heard the negotiated contracts, how about the sole-source contracts and when?

Supplementary To Question 169-13(3): Tabling Of All GNWT Contracts
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once that information is ready to share with Members, I will share it with them. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. O'Brien.

Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the recent announcement by the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development concerning funding for Nunavut has raised many questions about the organizational structure of the new Nunavut government. The NIC has recommended a decentralized government that will ensure that all functions of government and the jobs associated with those functions are spread amongst the communities in Nunavut. While my constituents were pleased to hear Mr. Irwin endorse a decentralized government for Nunavut, they are somewhat concerned about the level of funding that has been established. My question is to the Minister of Finance, in his role as chairman of the Cabinet Committee on Divisio. Could the Minister inform this House whether this government has taken position in support of decentralized government to Nunavut?

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you. The simple answer to the question is yes, this government has consistently stated that it supports the philosophy of a decentralized government. In fact, previous governments have worked hard to decentralize the current government in other parts of the Territories. I believe that the Premier will be responding today or tomorrow to the NIC report, to Mr. Kusugak and to Mr. Amagoalik, stating that position loud and clear. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. O'Brien.

Supplementary To Question 170-13(3): GNWT Support For Nunavut Decentralized Government
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Minister can understand, this issue is of great concern to the communities of Arviat and Baker Lake, who have long supported Nunavut and the establishment of a government that better serves their interest.

After the government's initial review of the details of the Minister's report, can the Minister inform us whether his analysis shows that the funding is sufficient to provide a decentralized government that will serve all communities of Nunavut and not simply the capital? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 170-13(3): GNWT Support For Nunavut Decentralized Government
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

That is a good question, Mr. Speaker, and one that is of concern to all of us, including Mr. Picco. At this time, we are still taking a careful look at the numbers. I said the other day that it is our belief that we are talking about $118 million and not $150 million because there are significant costs associated with increasing the federal presence in Nunavut. I wouldn't be in a position today to give my honourable colleague any guarantees that the dollars involved in the transitional and incremental costs identified by the federal government would be able to meet the expectation of the NIC report and the decentralized model at this time.

That isn't to suggest that it isn't, but it does require further analysis and I am looking forward to a healthy and constructive debate this weekend with our partners in this issue, NTI and the federal government, and we will have a commission there to assist us in providing some briefings in an advisory capacity. So I think it would be premature for me to say that it isn't sufficient money to meet the expectations of the decentralized government, but it would be proper for me to say that we do have some serious concerns at this time. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. O'Brien.