This is page numbers 1389 - 1412 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

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Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine, Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, Mr. Barnabas, Honourable Charles Dent, Mr. Enuaraq, Mr. Erasmus. Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Henry, Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Miltenberger, Honourable Don Morin, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Honourable John Todd.

Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Good morning. Orders of the day. Item 2,

Ministers' statements. Mr. Todd.

John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes, thank you. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to announce that a negotiated agreement has been reached with the NWT Teachers' Association. The NWTTA will submit the agreement to our teachers with a recommendation for ratification. Ratification results are expected by October 24, 1997.

The agreement covers the period September 1, 1996 to August 31, 1999. It contains all the provisions which were put in place on December 6, 1996. In addition, the agreement updates the northern allowance rates effective September 1, 1997 to reflect current cost-of-living differences especially in smaller and more remote communities. It also provides a onetime $1,500 signing bonus for teachers on strength during the 1996/97 school year.

The agreement contains a memorandum in which the GNWT agrees to strongly recommend to the Interim Commissioner and future government of Nunavut that the terms and conditions embodied in this collective agreement be continued as terms and conditions of employment for those employees located in Nunavut. Mr. Speaker, teachers are our employees and the educators of our children. They like most of our employees, are uncertain about their future as we create two new governments. We need to provide commitments and assurances to employees to make sure that both governments have the trained and skilled employees after division. That, Mr. Speaker, is one of the reasons why I felt strongly about a negotiated collective agreement, one that provides reasonable composition for our employees and labour stability as we work together to shape our future.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers statements. Mr. Kakfwi.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, over the past several years, the Northwest Territories has led all other Canadian jurisdictions in mineral exploration expenditures. The target of most of these exploration expenditures has been diamonds in the central Northwest Territories, primarily in the North Slave and Kitikmeot regions. Other regions have not seen a significant amount of mineral exploration.

There are currently two base metal mines in the Baffin region. Polaris and Nanisivik. Eventually these mines will close. To date, there are no advanced exploration projects in the region which hold the promise of developing into new mines in the next decade.

Mr. Speaker, we must continue to conduct mineral exploration in the Baffin. Due to the high costs and challenges of exploration in the north, we must find ways to stimulate interest and share current geological data.

To that end, a new partnership. which we hope will be the beginning of many, is in place. The Department of Resources. Wildlife and Economic Development, the Geological Survey of Canada and the Qikiqtaaluk Corporation are embarking on an initiative to increase and more fully utilize the available geological knowledge base in the Baffin region.

The objectives of the project are to assemble the available geoscientific data and make an assessment of the potential for minerals which can be mined economically. The research project will focus on the Melville Peninsula and central and northern Baffin Island.

Geoscience work is an important part of mineral exploration development. Geological mapping and sample collection by government agencies creates a knowledge base which mineral exploration companies can utilize while conducting their activities. The products of this partnership project will be used to promote mineral exploration and lay the groundwork for future geoscience research and mapping projects.

Mineral exploration and mining industries provide economic growth, increased employment and expanded business opportunities. We are working to ensure that the Baffin, like other regions in the Northwest Territories, takes advantage of the current growth in mineral exploration and the economic opportunities it provides. Partnerships of this type will ensure that we are positioning ourselves to encourage and to maximize opportunities for economic development related to mineral exploration and mining industries. Mahsi.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Arlooktoo.

Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As a MLA for the Baffin region, Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak about the recent confusion regarding the financing of a new hospital for the Baffin region. Members of the Legislative Assembly from the Baffin region have been hearing many things, some contradictory regarding this issue and I have been very concerned.

For example, has $47 million been committed or is it $25 million? Why do Baffin residents have to pay for their hospital and other regions do not? What does 85 percent federal contribution mean in real dollars? Is the money for renovations or replacement of the 35 year-old hospital? Why has the board said no to private financing or have they? Mr. Speaker, I believe more than anything else all of the stakeholders were suffering from the lack of information and a clear understanding of the complex issues around the financing of the hospital.

I arranged for a meeting with the Baffin MLAs, the Minister of Health and Social Services and his staff in an effort to remedy this as soon as possible and avoid raising public concern unnecessarily. The Minister and his staff answered the many questions put to them by the Baffin MLAs. I also requested Ann Hanson. chair of the Baffin Regional Health Board to come to Yellowknife and meet with the Baffin MLAs to outline the issues and to clarify her concerns. I appreciate the fact that she responded immediately and came to Yellowknife on very short notice.

The meeting in my opinion was very productive. I believe this cooperative effort gave all of us a better picture of the issue and cleared up the misconceptions. We found common ground. After all, Mr. Speaker, we all share the same goal of getting a new hospital for the people of the Baffin region.

Ann Hanson and the Baffin MLAs will work together to prepare a letter to Minister Ng outlining the issues discussed at the meeting and confirm that the Baffin Regional Health Board remains open to all options for financing the Baffin Hospital. Ms Hansen will be discussing this issue when the foundation board meets on October 9th. In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the MLAs, Mr. Picco, Mr. Ningark and Mr. Barnabas for helping on this important issue.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Very clearly one of the biggest major challenges facing this Assembly is the issue of division, which will effect every one of the people we represent in the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, the people that I represent want to understand this process and what is going on. However at this point they are besieged by all sorts of information. We have formula financing arrangements, we have transitional funding, we have incremental funding, we have goods. Our assets and liabilities need to be divided. People do not know exactly what is going on. We need good, clear information for the people, that demonstrates we know and are in control of this process. The people want assurances, Mr. Speaker, that at the end of the day the level of service and programs cannot suffer, east or west, because of division. We have an obligation as we move ahead to give that good, clear, understandable information and keep the people informed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Sunday, hundreds of people across our territory will "Run for the Cure" raising money for breast cancer research. Breast cancer is now the leading cause of death from cancer for territorial residents, second only to lung cancer. Breast cancer rates among northern aboriginal women especially, are on the rise, and yet the Northwest Territories is the only jurisdiction in Canada that does not have a breast cancer screening program. Since 1991, 25 northern women have died prematurely because of breast cancer. How many more will have to die or suffer the painful effects of intensive later stage treatment because their government did not fund an early detection program.

In July an ad hoc group of concerned citizens and organizations produced a report calling for more programs to increase awareness across the north of this disease. The recommendations call for the development of an early detection program. When this report was released, the Northwest Territories' medical health officer was quoted in the media as saying, "An awareness campaign would be difficult because regional health boards had different priorities, and were responsible for setting their own agendas." Surely this government has a way of making all residents, regardless of region, aware of this important issue. Breast cancer has one of the best cancer survival rates, if caught early. By not having an early detection program in place, health officials are taking unnecessary chances with the health of northern women and others. I urge this government to consider finding the money to implement an early detection screening program so that one day events like Sunday's "Run for the Cure" will no longer be necessary and we will all be able to look forward to many years of good health for our mothers, sisters, spouses and friends. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq.

Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker. Nine kilometres from Broughton Island is the Fox-5 DEW Linesite. Two kilometres from the community is DEW Line cargoing beach that was used by the DEW Line. These sites are of great concern to local people. A 1991 study of the area was done by Roads Rhodes Military College Environmental Science Group. The group found a lot of visible debris at the sites which needs to be cleaned up, debris that includes waste such as oil, scrap metal, storage containers and barrels. In addition, the group found several locations where there were high levels of PCBs and some of the PCBs were moving from the landfill area towards Davis Strait.

Mr. Speaker, this site being so close to the community of Broughton Island and the possible impact on local wildlife, the priority of this site needs to be moved forward. It is because of this concern that I will be bringing this issue forward during the oral question period. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Roland.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, seeing that this Friday, I would like to do something that I have not done before in this House and that is to give you a little story with a northern twist. You see, there was a fellow who smoked fish and did quite a good job. So good, in fact, that he was having a difficult time keeping up with the demand. So, he went and bought a couple of more fish nets, built himself another smoke house, and he hired a couple of people to help him out. Well, as word spread out that there was this great product available in the north, travellers from all over the world would stop by and buy his product. Sales were going through the roof. On the advice of those around him, he went to the government for help in developing his plans to further expand his thriving little industry. Once in the

government office, he was told that they would try and put a plan together for him and help him through the red tape. As he left there, he was wondering about this red tape the government talked about.

Meanwhile, back at the camp, things were going smoothly. That night after supper he sat back and thought things were going good enough that he could finally put a small addition on his home and prepare for child number three. He no longer had to worry about how he could provide for his growing family. Later that week, he returned to the government office to find that they had prepared a plan for him. In this plan, he was told that he would need new equipment like bigger boats and improved working gear for his staff. He was also told that he would have to replace all his smoke houses. He was told that it would cost him $250,000. Well. that was too much money so he said that he would just have to carry on as he was until he could afford to make the changes. It was at this time he was told that because of the policies of this government he would have to make the changes or he would not be allowed to carry on with what he had started. In fact, if he continued to carry on with what he was doing, he could be charged with an offence. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my Member's statement.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Inuvik is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? Mr Roland, you have unanimous consent.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. This is quite upsetting as he was a law abiding citizen. He agreed to make the necessary changes. With this, they began to put together a financing package. Well, the banks would not recognize his assets like the smoke houses and the fish nets as being worth much. He was also told that since he did not have an established credit rating that they would not be able to help him out. With, this in hand, he went back to the government and told them what the banks had said. The government told him because of the recession, they would not be able to help him out. He asked what he could do. He was told he would have to close down his fish smoking operation until he could find some support. He then asked how would he support his family if he could not keep his operation open. He was told that he should go down to the income support office. Finally, he went back to his home and told his family and workers that they would have to shut down and go to the income support office. When he and his now past employees showed up at the income support office, they were told to qualify for support that they would have to make a productive choice. So, ends my story, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last year I had asked the Minister for Health about breast cancer screening and availability of portable screening equipment.

This weekend there will be a walk here in Yellowknife and other communities to raise the awareness of breast cancer issues. Mr. Speaker, the north is experiencing dramatic increases in the instances of breast cancer. In a recent summary report produced by the NWT Breast Cancer Working Group should be prerequisite reading for all Members of this House. The report was carried out in 1996. Sixteen breast cancer survivors were interviewed. At the time of diagnoses the women were 30 to 64 years of age and the average age was 46. Participants represented the cultural diversity of the Northwest Territories, two Inuit, two Metis, two Denes, eight Euro-Canadians and two new Canadians were included in the group. In Nunavut and the Western Arctic, we have begun to see increased awareness of breast cancer and increased incidence of the disease. Many of the diagnosed breast cancer patients are left in the situation with an uninformed and nonsupportive environment.

Mr. Speaker, there should not be any stigma attached to the disease. If this government would help with information and support breast health awareness programs as asked and recommended by the Northwest Territories Breast Cancer Working Group, then we will have made some progress. In Canada a women dies of breast cancer every 90 minutes. Mr. Speaker, if breast cancer is detected early, the five year survival rate can be more than 90 percent. The problem here, Mr. Speaker, is that since my questions on screening equipment last year in this House, very little has been done. Mr. Speaker, I was not aware of the issues surrounding breast cancer until a constituent came to my office in Iqaluit last year and explained the problems, loneliness and lack of community-based counselling. It was heart wrenching and the ignorance I felt about the disease is too wide spread. It was after that I asked about the screening equipment in this House that could help with early detection.

The report made by the NWT Breast Cancer Working Group has made several recommendations and later today, I will be asking again the Minister for Health for an update as to the progress the department and this government is making on this most important issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus.

Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to speak about Student Financial Assistance. Mr. Speaker, recently many college and university students went back to school. I am asking our esteemed colleagues across the hall to ensure that those students can continue going back to those colleges and universities by maintaining the current rates of student financial assistance and, in fact, increasing them in some places.

Mr. Speaker, the current assistance we provide to students is only a portion of the actual cost of attending university or college. Tuition rates, book allowance and travel costs seldom cover the actual amounts students have to spend. I am concerned that the appointment of a task force by the Honourable Charles Dent, the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, means that this government is looking to cut funding levels. The report has not been tabled yet, but the task force conducted public hearings on potential changes to Student Financial Assistance. Many students do not have other sources of income other than summer jobs to help pay for a year of food and shelter. Older students with families who are trying to better their education are often hardest hit. Students who struggle to pay their way can find themselves with bad credit ratings when they cannot pay all their bills.

I must warn against comparing the Government of the Northwest Territories Student Financial Assistance Program to other jurisdictions. The opportunities for northern students to take courses close to home is quite limited. While the Aurora and Nunavut Arctic Colleges are filling roles, many students still must travel thousands of miles from home to study at university. Not only are their travel costs high, but the cost of trying to stay in touch with family members is also high. The Members of this current Assembly have identified education as the answer to many of the north's social problems and unemployment rates. Providing adequate student financial assistance is an investment in the north's future and as someone much wiser than I once said, if you think education is expensive, think of the cost of not .supporting education. Thank you.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Henry.

Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last year, Mr. Speaker, I brought forward to this House an information item dealing with pride. The source of my pride was my constituency. To me, Yellowknife South is the best place to live. It really is great. So great, that six of my honourable colleagues choose to reside in my constituency last year. This year, two more of my colleagues, the honourable Member for Hay River and Nunakput have seen the light and decided to join us. Welcome.

Mr. Speaker, why do so many from our Assembly want to live in the riding of Yellowknife South? Is it because of excellent schools, good roads and easy access to retail stores? Is it that they feel well represented in this Legislature Assembly?

--Laughter

We must, because, eight of us live there. Perhaps, my honourable colleagues have just liked each others company. For the Premier and the honourable Members who have not realized that Yellowknife South is the best place to live, we are waiting. What is the matter? If half of the Cabinet and one-third of the honourable Members have chosen Yellowknife South to live in, why have not the rest of you? I wonder, Mr. Speaker, since I represent one-third of the Members in this House, can my title be changed from honourable Member to Yellowknife South party leader?

--Applause

For those honourable Members who have chosen to live in Yellowknife South, I will continue to represent you in the Legislative Assembly to the best of my abilities. For those of you who have yet to make the move, what are you waiting for? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca.