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Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine, Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, Mr. Barnabas, Honourable Charles Dent, Mr. Enuaraq, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Evaloarjuk, Honourable Samuel Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Henry, Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Miltenberger, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Honourable John Todd.

Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Arlooktoo.

Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Jim Antoine and the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi will be late in arriving into the House as they are presently attending a funeral here in Yellowknife.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Qujannamiik. Mr. Speaker, recently, I had the pleasure of speaking to several hundred teachers from Yellowknife and across the Territories at the opening of their annual professional development conference in Yellowknife. The role of teachers in delivering educational programs is essential. As I said in the House last fall, Mr. Speaker, teachers make a difference. Teachers are the people who go into the classroom day after day--the ones who take the curriculum, the policies and the directives developed by the department and make them work. They are the ones who address the particular needs of students and parents on an on-going basis. Teachers must balance the competing challenges of school life and still make sure that students learn what they need to learn.

Every day of teachers' professional lives have a tremendous impact on students--how they see themselves right now and the people they will become in the future. Teachers make a difference by helping students reach their potential. Teachers provide students with an opportunity to gain the skills and attitudes required to live successfully in the 21st century. Teachers make a difference by assisting students to set goals and prepare for life-long learning.

Mr. Speaker, I have met many teachers across the NWT, and have been impressed by the high level of professionalism and dedication they bring to their work. The role of teachers is an important reminder for all of us why we do what we do: to help the people of the Territories work towards their dreams, to help them develop the skills they need to build the future they want. The Northwest Territories Teachers' Association handed out buttons with the slogan, "Teachers Make a Difference," in both English and Inuktitut at last week's conference. As a way to let the public demonstrate their support for the work the teachers do, the buttons will be distributed across the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, courtesy of the NWTTA and Ms Pat Thomas who is in the gallery with us today. I have had these buttons set on each Member's desk. I hope that they will wear one proudly and join me in recognizing the important role that teachers play in our northern society. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Labrador Winter Games
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to advise this House that as part of the upcoming Cabot 500 celebration being held in the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, a group of Iqaluit athletes and cultural performers have been invited to participate in the Labrador Winter Games being held in Goose Bay, March 17th to 22nd. Mr. Patrick Tagoona, President of the NWT Arctic Sports Association, has assumed the responsibility for organizing the team that will participate in this event. With the contribution of $15,000 from the Goose Bay Hosts Society towards the total charter costs of $19,000 and local fund raising, he and other volunteers have been able to raise the necessary finances to attend this event. Each participant is also being asked to pay a $75 registration fee which will go to offset the costs for meals and accommodations at the games. The nine male and nine female athletes will be participating in target shooting, northern games, the labyrinth, snowshoe races, snowmobile races, ball hockey, volleyball, darts and table tennis. The athletes will compete along with 500 other representatives from the 31 communities in Labrador.

In addition to the athletes, a cultural contingent will also be travelling to the games. The cultural contingent will include two drum dancers, two throat singers and four Arctic sport demonstrators as well as four people who will take part in a fashion show. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to wish the athletes every success in Labrador at the 1997 Labrador Winter Games. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Labrador Winter Games
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq.

Pangnirtung Fisheries
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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, colleagues. At this time, Mr. Speaker, I have some happy news to present concerning some work that has been going on in Pangnirtung which concerns the Pangnirtung Fisheries and Cumberland Fisheries Limited. They had an excellent productive month in both December and November. They hired 49 employees and contributed approximately $93,000 directly into wages for the people of Pangnirtung. At this time, Mr. Speaker, this is extremely good news. It confirms and shows how hardworking the people of Pangnirtung are. At this time, I would also like to say that the Pangnirtung Fisheries and the employees have worked hard in continuing the fisheries. I am very proud of their achievement. They must receive assistance from Fisheries and Oceans by the federal government and I hope that they continue to receive this support. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Pangnirtung Fisheries
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Employees Affected By Division
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it appears the fate of the GNWT employees who are affected by division remains unresolved. I have spoken about my concerns on this issue before. To reiterate my position, staff outside of Nunavut who are laid off as a result of division, should be given hiring priority for jobs for which they are qualified. Existing staff in Nunavut should be automatically transferred to the new government, with all terms and conditions of employment unchanged. This is the position this government put forward in its response to Footprints 2. However, it seems NTI and Nunatsiak MP, Jack Anawak, who is also a candidate for Interim Commissioner and will oversee the hiring of the staff for Nunavut, are arguing that Nunavut's needs are different and the government should be free to hire those it wishes.

The argument by these leaders is this is a totally different government with a totally different philosophical bent. Many people have stated that we are creating two new territories. Does this mean we are going to dismiss the present members of the public service and hire a different set of employees on April 1, 1999 in the west? I do not think so. The present employees of the Government of the NWT should become employees of the new governments. We should all acknowledge this and provide a level of assurance to people who feel that their jobs are in jeopardy, to ensure that their concerns are not being ignored. Existing employees have a great deal to offer. They can be responsible in their future roles to be the trainers of new employees. As experience has shown, experience is the best teacher. Our employees need reassurances. They deserve to know about their future. This present state of uncertainty is unacceptable. I believe that the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Government of Canada, who is funding this whole process, have an obligation to protect the employment of existing staff. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca.

Caribou Population
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James Rabesca North Slave

Mr. Speaker, today I would like to bring an issue to the House that has never really been much of a problem until this winter. For the past many years residents from across the southern Great Slave Lake area have come to Yellowknife to stock up on caribou for their families, friends and communities. This has never been much of a problem. However, this year with the lack of caribou on the Gordon Lake winter road, this hunting traffic has discovered the winter road system that goes from Rae-Edzo north to Colomac Mines and other Dogrib communities. The increased traffic brings concerns to my people. We are not told who is hunting and how much caribou this group is taking back to their communities. There is also more wasted meat from some irresponsible hunters. All of this has a direct impact on the populations of this herd. We do not want our caribou depleted.

Fortunately, both the Rae Band Councils and the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development have been working closely together to find solutions that will help protect this valuable resource and still provide the needed meat for the people. It has been decided to maintain monitoring stations that will be sponsored by the Band Councils, and will have direct contact with Resources staff in case problems occur. With the co-operation of these two groups, it is anticipated that staff from the Yellowknife office will be making occasional trips on this road system to ensure all rules and regulations are followed. We realize that people want their caribou, but at the same time the hunters should follow all necessary regulations, and should have some consideration to respect this valuable resource. Mr. Speaker, at the opportune time I will be asking the Minister responsible questions regarding this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Caribou Population
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Rabesca. Members' statements. Mr. Roland.

Fairness
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I arise this afternoon to speak on the issue of fairness. I have said in this House that I was very interested to see how this budget would come down, especially when it effects the community of Inuvik. Mr. Speaker, it has been said out of sight, out of mind, and that is how the people of my community feel when it comes to this government. I have worked in this Assembly and committees to try and represent my community the best that I could, especially when it comes to the issue of fairness and how we get dealt with when it comes to the budget situation. Mr. Speaker, the closure of Delta House adds to the list of many things that people are concerned about being out of sight and out of mind. I will continue to try and remind those in this Assembly, and those who make the final decisions when it

comes to the budget and affects our communities, that there are people out there who contribute to the Northwest Territories that are not necessarily seen on a day to day basis and that do not necessarily come to the door on a day to day basis. I grow concerned there is still a mind-set within this government that if you do not make enough noise, do not rattle the chains and bang the cans, the pots and pans, you do not get what is due.

Mr. Speaker, if it requires me to stand up and start making as much noise as possible and start getting louder about the discontent my community feels, then so be it. That might be the tactic I have to take. I hope the work I am doing in meetings, in this Assembly, the message I am trying to send is getting across and communities like Inuvik will begin to see fairness is really an issue being dealt with within this Assembly. Thank you.

-- Applause

Fairness
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Members' statements. Mr. Henry.

GNWT Travel Expenditures
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have been looking for ways to be more efficient and to make better use of resources since we came to this Assembly. I believe we have overlooked an opportunity right under our noses. We all know that one of the challenges of governing the NWT is the tremendous distances between communities. Every year this government spends thousands of dollars on travel, both for government employees on business and medical travel. The government has taken steps to limit travel wherever possible. However, it is a fact of life in doing business in the north. Travel is always going to be necessary for those with medical needs which cannot be met in their communities.

I believe there is another way to save money on travel, through the use of the frequent flier program. Many of us have experienced the benefits of frequent flier programs. We take a trip and, in the process, gain points towards a free trip. Right now, people travelling on a ticket purchased by the government are able to accumulate frequent flier points for that travel. In other jurisdictions, the government has found ways to accumulate the travel points from employees on duty travel. They can use these points for travel awards which can be used for other government business travel. It is estimated using frequent flier points represents a possible savings of between five and ten percent of the cost of air travel. Mr. Speaker, for every $5 million we spend on medical or duty travel, we could save up to $500,000 by pooling frequent flier points earned from duty and other government travel.

Mr. Speaker, other jurisdictions are finding ways to spread their travel dollars further through the frequent flier point system. This is too easy and obvious for our government, which relies so heavily on air travel, to ignore. I encourage the government to investigate this opportunity and, at the appropriate time, I will be asking the Minister some questions on this later today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

GNWT Travel Expenditures
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Members' statements. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Aboriginal War Veterans
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Lately, I have observed the treatment of aboriginal war veterans by our Canadian government has been brought to light in various forums. For years, the federal government dealt with the issue of the mistreatment and interment of Japanese Canadians during World War II regarding compensation, public apologies, et cetera. No doubt this was an injustice to Canadian citizens. However, there was another glaring oversight and mistreatment of Canadian citizens which has been overlooked and not addressed for too long. At last, some 50 years after the Second World War, recommendations from the report, "The Aboriginal Soldier after the Wars" and the Royal Commission on Aboriginal People, have been acted upon. Thus far at least two recommendations have been acted on. Working with the National Aboriginal Veterans' Association, DIAND has provided seed money of $80,000 for organizations of fund-raising for an Aboriginal Veterans' War Memorial. DIAND has also provided contribution funding to set up the National Aboriginal Veterans' Association. In cooperation with a number of federal departments, DIAND has established a $1.15 million Aboriginal Veterans' Scholarship Fund open to aboriginal students engaged in study, which will contribute to self-government initiatives.

The Department of Veteran Affairs maintains that all legislation relating to veterans' benefits was administered properly by its department. It has recently begun to contact all veterans to inform them of the benefits for which they are eligible. According to DIAND and Veterans' Affairs, all paperwork in relation to aboriginal veterans' claims is handled by the two departments. According to DIAND's records, there were no official policies or legislation which prevented aboriginal veterans from accessing benefits, or which require aboriginal veterans to give up Indian status. However, veterans testifying before the Royal Commission on Aboriginal People consistently reported differences between aboriginal and non-aboriginal veterans' benefits. Given the choice of accepting the testimony of these individuals or the official position of the federal government, I believe there was a grave injustice to aboriginal veterans. Although the measures being taken now are better than nothing, they are too little, too late. My late maternal grandfather, Sylvanus John Vivian Cann, who died in 1986 at 100 years of age, told me numerous times of his appreciation of the skills of aboriginal servicemen with whom he served in the First World War in the trenches in Europe.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Aboriginal War Veterans
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Hay River is seeking unanimous consent to conclude her statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Mrs. Groenewegen, you have unanimous consent.

Aboriginal War Veterans
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the age of 93, my grandfather personally made a road trip to the Northwest Territories to admonish me, who he considered to be his only descendant living amongst aboriginal people, regarding this respect which he expected me to convey on his behalf. Mr. Speaker, I am using this opportunity as a Member of this Legislative Assembly today, to ask this government to

please identify all surviving northern veterans and assure that they are adequately recognized and apprised of any and all benefits available to them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Aboriginal War Veterans
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas.

Kicking Caribou Theatre Company
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends) In response to an alarming number of suicide attempts in Arctic Bay, the Suicide Prevention Committee of Arctic Bay was created. This committee is made up of teachers, nurses and health care workers. In September, 1995, a suicide was committed and it affected everyone deeply. Soon afterwards, a number of high school drama students decided they wanted to create a play which would address the issue of suicide in a frank and hard-hitting manner. Under the auspices of the Suicide Prevention Committee, the GNWT wellness grant was applied for, in which the students would create and perform a play called "This House has Many Rooms". From that point onward, it is the group of students, not the committee, which is important here. The play was a tremendous success. The reaction of the home community was overwhelming. The theatre company received the same response in Igloolik. The voices of the young actors and actresses in the company struck a powerful chord with the audience. The message of suicide prevention and awareness was delivered strongly and with a great deal of feeling. Something only a live, theatrical performance could achieve. Afterwards, the actors mixed with the audience in a powerful display of emotion and healing. Word of the Kicking Caribou Theatre Company's success reached the CBC and a documentary was shot in Arctic Bay for CBC North.

This year, the theatre company has a new play. It is called, "What is the matter, Mary Jane?" This is a much more challenging play in terms of stage craft and it explores the life of troubled young teenage girls and men. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Kicking Caribou Theatre Company
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for High Arctic is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Barnabas, you have unanimous consent.