This is page numbers 1275 - 1303 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was north.

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Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine, Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, Mr. Barnabas, Honourable Charles Dent, Mr. Enuaraq, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Evaloarjuk, Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Henry, Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Miltenberger, Honourable Don Morin, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Honourable John Todd.

Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Rabesca. Good afternoon. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin.

Minister's Statement 87-13(4): Federal Election
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of the Government of the Northwest Territories, I would like to extend congratulations to Prime Minister Jean Chretien on his re-election and on the return of a Liberal majority government.

-- Applause

Minister's Statement 87-13(4): Federal Election
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, it will be good to see familiar faces as we continue to work with the federal government in negotiating and working together to protect and secure the interests of the north. We also welcome the new faces that will be at the table, including a new Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development and the fresh perspectives they will be able to bring to our discussions.

Closer to home, I would also like to extend congratulations to Western Arctic MP Ethel Blondin-Andrews on her election for a third term as the Member of Parliament and to Nancy Karetak Lindell who was elected yesterday to serve her first term as the Member of Parliament for Nunavut. I look forward to working with both of you in serving the citizens in the north and in tackling the challenges we have as leaders in this historic times in Canada's north. Finally, I would also like to extend congratulations to Louise Hardy, who was elected to serve as the Member of Parliament for the Yukon.

Mr. Speaker, as we work on improving social and economic conditions for the people of the north and as we move toward the creation of two new territories in 1999, a strong working relationship between all levels of government is more important now than it has ever been. The north is a vital part of Canada's political and economic future and as such, we look forward to working with all Members of the newly elected federal government to ensure that future is a strong one for all northerners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi Cho.

-- Applause

Minister's Statement 87-13(4): Federal Election
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson.

Minister's Statement 88-13(4): Congratulations To Female Members Of Parliament
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to congratulate three women who were elected to represent Canada's three northern ridings in Parliament. Ethel Blondin-Andrew in the Western Arctic riding, Nancy Karetak Lindell in the Nunavut riding and Louise Hardy in the Yukon riding have proven that you do not need a law to ensure that women are elected to a political office. In fact Mr. Speaker, 25 percent of successful candidates in yesterday's election are women.

These women won because of their skills and determination and because they believe in themselves and their potential. Mr. Speaker, these women are a source of inspiration for other women to take up the political challenge and succeed.

Minister's Statement 88-13(4): Congratulations To Female Members Of Parliament
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Ms. Thompson. Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent.

Minister's Statement 89-13(4): Healthy Children Initiative
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there is widespread recognition that the early childhood years are crucial to the development of healthy children. From conception to age five or six, all children develop the foundation of their physical, social, emotional and intellectual skills and attitudes. Delays in this early development can result from many risk factors during both the prenatal period and early childhood. Potential difficulties in school and later life can be minimized or prevented through

programs and services to support children and their families during these early years.

Today I would like to announce the Healthy Children Initiative in partnership with my colleague, the Honourable Kelvin Ng, Minister of Health and Social Services. The vision of the initiative is healthy children born to healthy parents, growing up in strong and supportive families in caring communities. This year $3.75 million has been allocated this year to help communities support the healthy development of their young children. A formula has been developed to distribute funding to each community. A similar amount will be proposed in the department's 1998/99 business plan.

The Department of Education, Culture and Employment and the Department of Health and Social Services have developed a framework that describes the vision, principles, scope and options for action. The document is designed as a guide for community members, community government, service delivery boards and agencies and government departments in developing and implementing early childhood intervention programs and services. Any project proposed under this initiative must meet its vision and principles.

The framework document and information on how to apply for funding will be sent to communities and stakeholder groups shortly. Further information on how to apply for funding can be obtained from regional offices of the Department of Education, Culture and Employment.

Mr. Speaker, the Healthy Children Initiative represents an investment in our most important resource, the children of the Northwest Territories. I look forward to seeing the range of programs and services that communities develop to meet the needs of young children and their families. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Minister's Statement 89-13(4): Healthy Children Initiative
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi.

Minister's Statement 90-13(4): Pollution Prevention Recognition And Awards Program
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, in August, 1996, I had the privilege of announcing the creation of the Northwest Territories Pollution Prevention Awards Program. These awards recognize northern companies that demonstrate leadership in reducing pollution which originates from their daily operations. At the April annual general meeting of the Northwest Territories Chamber of Commerce, two northern companies, White Bear Chrysler and Canarctic Graphics were recognized for their achievements in this area.

As a part of this week's Environment Week celebrations, the Canadian Council of Ministers of the Environment announced a national recognition and award program on pollution prevention. By doing so, Canada's Environment Ministers have challenged all Canadian organizations, large and small, to develop ways in which innovation and ingenuity can help them reduce pollution and achieve their goals.

Increasingly, Mr. Speaker, pollution prevention is becoming the strategy of choice for environmental protection in Canada. I am pleased that the Northwest Territories is at the forefront of promoting this strategy through our own northern awards and recognition program. Thank you.

-- Applause

Minister's Statement 90-13(4): Pollution Prevention Recognition And Awards Program
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Krutko.

Member's Statement 375-13(4): Fort Mcpherson Graduation Class
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to pay particular attention to a very special group of young people from the community of Fort McPherson. Mr. Speaker, the graduating class of 1997 is made up of Tommy Blake, Shaun Vittrekwa, Joanne Francis, Alisa Blake, Roberta Alexie, and Laura Vittrekwa. This group, Mr. Speaker, certainly have had to work harder than your average student in order to graduate in time this year.

Since their school burnt down in the early part of January, 1996, this group of young people had to deal with the stress and uncertainty, not to mention makeshift classrooms and limited resources. For well over a year, these students were being bumped from one temporary facility to another in order to complete their secondary education.

I am very proud, Mr. Speaker, to say that they did it. On June 13, 1997, the six hardy students will be the first ever graduating class in Fort McPherson's new Chief Julius School. I am sure, Mr. Speaker, that all my colleagues here in the Assembly will join me to congratulate this special group of young people and believe that they will continue on to make better and better endeavours. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Member's Statement 375-13(4): Fort Mcpherson Graduation Class
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger.

Member's Statement 376-13(4): Members' Summer Workload
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In keeping with the Liberal sentiment expressed in this House this afternoon, I would just like to touch briefly on the issue of extended adjournment which we are going to be entering into at the end of Thursday, where we intend to recess until October. Mr. Speaker, I have found that every time we go on extended adjournment or recess, there is a perception out there that we are all on holidays. I would like to point out very clearly, there are many parts to the MLA's work and the Session is only one small part.

Mr. Speaker, while we will be in recess, we will all be working in our constituencies on many issues that have been probably long overlooked or that we have to catch up on. We have to worry about programs for our communities and the Northern Employment Strategy, issues like community empowerment, economic development and in my case, I am interested in a South Slave leaders meetings as well as mine training. There are also western issues that affect us from the west as there are division issues and Nunavut issues that affect those from the east, things like formula negotiations, the constitutional work, the assemblies over the course of the summer not to mention all the local and regional meetings that we will all be attending during the course of the summer.

In addition there is going to be committee work. For those on the Social Programs Committee, we have the Family Law Review. We have to look at the mid-year review departments that are coming up as well as all the work related to division that will be going on during the course of the summer. We have been away from our ridings for a long time. There is a lot of catching up to do. There is a lot of work to do and this summer, hopefully, will be for our constituents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Member's Statement 376-13(4): Members' Summer Workload
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Member's Statement 377-13(4): Transfer Of Federal Positions To The North
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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today on a matter of serious concern to all of us; job losses. It is no secret that we have had many job losses because of the downsizing of our government and in the west will face further losses because of division. But today I wish to propose a constructive proposal to this problem that will benefit not just us here in the west and in my constituency but all of the north, Nunavut and in the western Arctic.

There are many federal public servants in various departments in the south and throughout southern Canada who are working on northern programs and who are more appropriately and should be located here in the north. I am speaking of the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development, Natural Resources Canada, Environment Canada, Fisheries and Oceans, and agencies such as the National Energy Board. Federal employees with responsibilities for the north should be located here in the north. The employees will be more sensitive and more aware of our problems when they are here. The federal government has a responsibility in this and they have a golden opportunity to replenish lost jobs here in the north and to transfer those to where they belong. It will assist our ailing economy.

I was pleased with the Premier's statement yesterday about him achieving an endorsement and support from the western Premiers to transfer natural resource responsibilities and many federal employees working in those areas. Having jobs in the north is not only good for our economy and tax base, but it will result in a better delivery of programs to us here in the north. In the west, we are building part of our economy around the mining industry and the resource industry such as oil and gas, but we cannot get the tax royalties for that so I feel the least the federal government can do, is assist us by transferring those jobs here. We will soon have a new Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs and I would urge all of us to pursue this initiative. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Members' statements. Mr. Henry.

Member's Statement 378-13(4): Member's Right To Free Speech
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, working in this Assembly can be a challenge. The rules and procedures can be confining. For example, many of us have trouble staying exactly within the two and a half minute time limit for Members' statements. Seldom does a day go by that someone does not have to ask for unanimous consent to finish their statement.

However, the rules are there for a reason. They help to make sure that everyone has an opportunity to contribute and to question. They provide Members with time to think about issues before agreeing to formal motions and critical legislation. One of the things that makes the rules bearable is the courtesy of other Members. For the most part, we accept the opposing views of each other. Although we may not always agree, we have learned that in a democracy, each of us has the right to express the views of our constituents on any topic.

Mr. Speaker, I know the views I have expressed in this House have been contrary to those of other Members on more than one occasion. I would like to take this opportunity to thank my colleagues for the courtesy they have extended in ensuring that I can fulfil my Member's privilege to free speech. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Member's Statement 378-13(4): Member's Right To Free Speech
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca.

Member's Statement 379-13(4): North Slave Geographic Location
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James Rabesca North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to congratulate Ethel Blondin-Andrew for her convincing victory in last night's election. It will be a privilege working with her over the next few years. I would also like to congratulate all candidates across our nation that took the time and energy to put their names forward to run for this election.

Last night while I was watching the results beginning to flash across my TV, I had a chance to read Monday's edition of the News/North. To my amazement I found that myself and the rest of my residents of Rae Edzo and Rae Lakes were no longer part of the North Slave region but in fact we had miraculously moved to the South Slave. I guess, if nothing else, the move would definitely increase the South Slave population considerably but I wonder what will happen with our landclaim negotiations and all the other projects and negotiations that we in Rae Edzo are working on.

Mr. Speaker, I realize this of course is an error on someone's part, but whose error is it should be the question. Is it Stats Canada or News/North? In closing, Mr. Speaker, for the record let me assure everyone that Rae Edzo and Rae Lakes have not moved to South Slave, but rather they are well situated in North Slave. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

Member's Statement 379-13(4): North Slave Geographic Location
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Rabesca. Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Member's Statement 380-13(4): Nunavut Electoral Boundaries Commission
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, I have just recently done a written submission to the Nunavut Boundaries Commission and I submit that there should be 20 representatives in the new Nunavut Legislative Assembly. There are a number of factors which I believe should be considered in setting the boundaries for these new ridings. Number one is voter parity. In various court cases it has been determined that section 3 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms does not demand strict voter equality. Instead, voter parity is used as the guidelines. In both British Columbia and Saskatchewan the same principle has been used and tested in the courts. They try to ensure that voter populations fall within 25 percent of the average voter population per constituency in urban and rural ridings. In Saskatchewan there is also provision that northern ridings should be within 50 percent of the average where there are pressing and substantial concerns. With a 20 seat Legislature, it should be possible to adhere closely to these principles.

The second item I have been looking at, Mr. Speaker, in my written submission is limiting the distances included in a single riding. It is difficult for MLAs to travel long distances between communities in their ridings, therefore the ridings should recognize the need to keep travel down to a minimum to lower costs. Anticipated future growth, although voter priority is based on the actual number of votes, it is also useful to look at the total population statistics to determine whether there will be a dramatic shift in a riding in the foreseeable future. For example, in Iqaluit, we have seen an 18 percent increase in our population since the 1991 census. Based on these considerations, I would propose that the Nunavut Boundaries Commission consider the ridings as I have outlined them in the attached table. Seventeen of the 20 ridings would fall within the 25 percent variation from average voters. All of the ridings fall within a 50 percent variation.

Mr. Speaker, for example I would suggest that Iqaluit would have three ridings.

Member's Statement 380-13(4): Nunavut Electoral Boundaries Commission
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Some Hon. Members

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Member's Statement 380-13(4): Nunavut Electoral Boundaries Commission
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, there must be some sort of democracy here, Mr. Speaker, that would allow me to have another opportunity to represent the people of Nunavut and I think those three ridings would do it.

-- Laughter

For the benefit of Mr. Todd, I am recommending two ridings for Rankin Inlet. Mr. Speaker, this submission was sent last week and I would like the opportunity to thank you, the House, Mr. Hamilton and the staff for their support. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.