This is page numbers 441 - 469 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was program.

Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine, Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, Honourable Charles Dent, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Evaloarjuk, Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Miltenberger, Honourable Don Morin, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Honourable John Todd.

Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Good morning. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Ng.

Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Mr. Speaker, I would like to report the progress achieved to date on the Review of Seniors' Programs and Services in the Northwest Territories.

The government began a review last spring, in partnership with the NWT Seniors' Advisory Council, to evaluate the efficiency and effectiveness of existing programs. The Seniors' Advisory Council was contracted by the Departments of Health and Social Services; Housing Corporation and Education, Culture and Employment to carry out the review. The Council has submitted a report to the government providing recommendations on program delivery to better meet the needs of our northern seniors.

Mr. Speaker, the social envelope committee, in reviewing the report, has identified three key recommendations to be acted upon.

First, Mr. Speaker, the report recommends that seniors be made more aware of government programs and services. In response, we have developed a brochure titled Programs and Services for Seniors which has been distributed to seniors across the territories in both English and Inuktitut. A second document is also being prepared to supplement this brochure, and this guide will provide some detail on eligibility criteria for programs. This guide will also be distributed in both English and Inuktitut.

A second recommendation is to standardize the age of eligibility for seniors accessing programs. The social envelope committee is currently reviewing the implications and feasibility of standardizing the eligibility to those 60 years of age or older.

The third recommendation suggests developing a simplified and coordinated process of accessing programs and services for all seniors. The social envelope committee is reviewing the process to develop a common assessment form to simplify the process of applying for benefits.

My colleagues, Honourable Charles Dent and Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, and I will continue consulting with the seniors' advisory committee to further discuss the recommendations and to seek advice on the proposed action plans. Thank you, Mr. Speaker

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Krutko.

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today in regard to the whole question about pay equity and the delivery of services between the small communities and the large centres. There seems to be a real misconception in regard to the service that we deliver in our small communities versus the larger centres. I talk, Mr. Speaker, in regard to the income support and the staff who presently deliver these programs in small communities. Presently as it exists that a full-time staff position is $50,000 and encompasses 2,000 applicants in a community. In the case of Aklavik with a case load of 694 people, the individual is paid $36,000 which is a part-time position.

In regard to income support in the smaller centres especially where you do not have an economic base, there seems to be a real demand on the individual and the program in those communities where you do not have the job opportunities and potential that a lot of the larger centres have. In regard to that we hear the debate regarding the pay equity question with the unions, but I think we are also finding ourselves that there has got to be equity in delivering programs in the communities on a similar basis to those in larger centres.

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be asking the Minister in regard to the Income Support Program exactly why is this injustice being done. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to rise to speak about a situation relating to the Arctic Winter Games and specifically the selection of the minor hockey team that occurred. In my constituency and in the South Slave I believe there are a lot of very unhappy parents and disillusioned and wounded young hockey players. Apparently trials were held and a tournament was held in Yellowknife. A team from the South Slave came up and won the tournament yet for some reason ended up with only one player on the Arctic Winter Games team. I understand that the team was picked by the coaches from Yellowknife which for some reasons ended up with eight or so players on the team. Needless to say, I have received letters and calls and a lot of issues were raised about this unfortunate incident. I have passed those on to the Minister. I can only hope that the matter can be resolved; that, in fact, the concerns are addressed and that the players involved are not going to be totally disillusioned about the process where they played their hearts out, gave their best, won the tournament and for some reason - being politics or what ever the situation was - did not get recognized for their victory.

I think we owe the people involved a clear answer. I know the families are very distressed. This is a situation that is not going to go away and unfortunately adds a bad flavour or sense to the Arctic Winter Games which are going to be starting here in a month or so. So I will be asking the Minister for an update on this important issue so that the young hockey players in the South Slave and their families can get some satisfaction and some justice. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Roland.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday in my Member's statement I spoke about issues that concern families and children. I followed up with questions to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment on the Healthy Children Initiative which I referred to earlier as the Early Intervention Program. Mr. Speaker, as I said yesterday, I believe that if we are going to focus on families and improving the future we need to work on the whole family not just pieces of the family. I think that although we are moving in the right direction of trying to focus on earlier problems that occur in homes and the ability of children to learn in the school environment, I hope that we will be able to take some of the concerns being raised and input them into any changes that would be coming, as the Minister said, out of a review. Hopefully that review will happen sooner than later. We know, Mr. Speaker, at times once programs are established they are very difficult to change. I am hoping that any of the reviews that are done are done as soon as possible and that changes to the program can be made quickly so that we can definitely have a positive impact on families across the north. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday I tabled three documents concerning housing problems for our staff in the Baffin region and one document from the FAS/FAE volunteer group in Iqaluit. Over this past week when raising concerns, it would seem the fall back position of the government is to say show us the proof that your concerns are legitimate. Mr. Speaker, for example, one of the documents tabled had been sent to all MLAs and Cabinet concerning problems with staff housing and yet the government said they were not aware of the concern. Mr. Speaker, I will later today, again, raise these questions and address the tabled documents for some clarity and now awareness of the issues. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Ms. Thompson.

Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to make an observation. My Member's statement today is about how we work together in a consensus style government to make things better for the people in our constituencies. Our Legislative Assembly is unique in Canada and, indeed, the world. Mr. Speaker, as we all know, just because we have a consensus government does not mean that we always agree. There is room for debates and arguments in this House, but that is not my concern. My concern is how we are handling conflicts and how the media is reacting to them. We all know some leaders are taking advantage of these conflicts and using them to gain recognition through the newspaper, radio and television. Mr. Speaker, is it more important to get your face in the paper and on television than to prove your leadership professionally? This problem will only become worse as we draw near to the next election.

Recently we have been hearing a lot about the Keewatin. The Keewatin has been portrayed as a region in chaos and has even been referred to as having third world conditions.

Some Hon. Members

Shame, shame.

Manitok Thompson Aivilik

I am very concerned that some of the statements that have been made in this House and in the media have been unfair to the residents of the Keewatin. Mr. Speaker, this humiliating label is unfair and insulting to the Keewatin residents and especially each and every one of the health board members of the communities. They deserve an apology. Our region has always been well

known for being pro-active and productive. I will challenge any one of the Members who have criticized the efforts of these community members to go and see them and repeat what they have been saying face to face. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Aivilik is seeking unanimous consent to conclude her statement. Do we have any nays?

Some Hon. Members

Nay.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

You do not have unanimous consent. Members' statements. Order, please. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 149-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease Agreement
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to reply to an oral question which was asked by Mrs. Groenewegen on January 29th to the Premier, but it has to do with my portfolio and so I have the information on the Lahm Ridge Tower lease agreement.

Mr. Speaker, when an agreement was reached on the extension provisions on the Lahm Ridge lease, the Department of Public Works and Services was aware that the owner was attempting to negotiate a sale to 974102 NWT Limited. The department was aware of the names of the owners of the new company.

With regard to the assignment of the lease, it is important to emphasize that the assignment is an instrument which permits the sellers of the building to transfer the existing lease to the buyer. The role of the GNWT at that point is to approve the assignment if the buyer complies with the terms and conditions of the assigned lease. In the case of the Lahm Ridge Tower, the department assessed the assignment, determined that the document did not violate the existing provisions of the lease and, therefore, agreed to it. Although the assignment was agreed to by the department prior to the date of the sale, it took effect on the date the new owner took possession of the building. In this case the effective date was November 1, 1997. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Question 149-13(5): Lahm Ridge Tower Lease Agreement
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. O'Brien.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to introduce some young constituents from my home community of Arviat. They are from the Pathfinders and they are Michelle Illnik, Heather Main, Leah Muckpah, Sharon Owlijoot, Fiona Main, Bernice Niakrok, Karen Panegoniak and Nancy Gibbons. Also their leaders are present, Martha Main and Belinda Carter. Thank you.

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Roland.

Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question will be directed to the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment. Yesterday I asked him a question regarding the Healthy Children Initiative and he answered me by saying that it is aimed at children. I would like to know if the Minister is aware of the concerns out there where families are the focus not just children and maybe he can give me more of an answer than I received yesterday. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.