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Supplementary To Question 289-13(6): Programs For Disabled Persons
Question 289-13(6): Programs For Disabled Persons
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 289-13(6): Programs For Disabled Persons
Question 289-13(6): Programs For Disabled Persons
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will get to that in a moment. It occurred to me that I missed, in my previous answer to the Member, an important aspect that I think she will find interesting. For the past, year or so, the Housing Corporation, Education, Culture and Employment, and Health and Social Services have been working on a project to try to integrate our programs of support to people in the territories. Firstly, people will, it is hoped, be able to have one window to enter to discuss all of these programs. Number two, one of the problems we face is that there are different standards in each of our programs in terms of qualifying incomes. We are working at trying to establish a common set of standards. Work is being undertaken currently by this government to try and bring some uniformity to our programs.

In response to the Member's second question, the person applying for income support should be able to apply to an income support worker and have that income support worker assist them, in completing the form, which basically sets out what the person's income is and their expenses. are. At the end of the form, these are totalled and if there is a need for a subsidy, the income support program subsidizes the person. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 289-13(6): Programs For Disabled Persons
Question 289-13(6): Programs For Disabled Persons
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Henry.

Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to Mr. Dent, Minister responsible for the Power Corporation. I think it is fair to say that we have experienced recent power outages at the City of Yellowknife in the last while. I would like the Minister to tell the House and, particularly the residents of my community, what has caused these power outages? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Dent.

Return To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The raven did it. Mr. Speaker, I am assuming that the Member is talking about the two power outages that were experienced in Yellowknife on Saturday. Those are the most recent ones that I am aware of. On Saturday, about 11:00 a.m., there was a power outage that did result from a raven on the Bluefish line. Approximately noon, there was a second outage which was as a result of frost build up on the Snare hydro line. This caused the line to sag and thus experience a ground fault interruption.

Earlier this month there was a power failure on the Snare line, again caused by frost build up which had been noticed in a helicopter surveillance flight. There was a team scheduled to remove the frost the next day, but before they could get to the site, the frost build up caused the line to sag and cause a ground fault.

Mr. Speaker, there have been some mechanical failures at the Snare hydro site this month that we have not been able to identify as to why those outages happened, other than something causes the breakers to trip mechanically.

Return To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Supplementary To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for that. From his answer, I would assume that the cause of the problem is NWT Power Corporation's, as opposed to the local distributor. My question to the Minister is, what avenues of compensation are available to customers whose equipment is damaged, for example, motors, ballasts and refrigerators that are sensitive to power reductions or bumps? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would expect in a situation where a raven has caused the power outage or where frost build up has caused the power outage, it would be difficult to say that it was an act of negligence on the part of the Power Corporation. Therefore, the Power Corporation could not be expected to be liable in that situation. The homeowner should check first with their insurance company to see if they are covered, but I do not believe the Power Corporation carries any insurance to compensate people for natural acts such as the ones we have experienced here.

Further Return To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Supplementary To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am starting to get a better handle on the items that the Power Corporation would not cover and we know that ravens are one of them. They do not cover the outages from that. Could the Minister, maybe tell me some examples of what damages the Power Corporation would cover, or if there has been any examples in recent history of where the Power Corporation has covered costs for the examples that I talked about in my earlier statement? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There was a recent outage in Fort Resolution where the corporation did establish an office to look at areas where damage had resulted from an extreme over-voltage situation in the community. There was some compensation provided to individuals there and I will have my office develop a comprehensive answer and provide it to the Member, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Supplementary To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister, in response to my first question, suggested it was a raven that did it. I think all people in Yellowknife have heard that reason given numerous times before. For the benefit of myself and residents of my community, I am sure there is a good reason, could the Minister explain how it actually happens that a raven sitting on a wire, or whatever it is, causes a power outage? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, technically what happens is the raven becomes a conductor for the electricity to go to ground. That causes a ground fault which, in turn, causes the breakers to trip. If the bird happens to be situated close to the high voltage line and close to a part of the transformer, for instance, that is grounded, the circuit is closed and goes to ground causing the breaker to trip. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

Further Return To Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Question 290-13(6): Causes Of Power Outages
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Morin.

Question 291-13(6): Private Meeting Confirmation
Item 6: Oral Questions

December 8th, 1998

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is my first question for seven years since I have been acting as Premier.

--Applause

Can the Acting Premier inform this House whether or not he ever had a private meeting with another business individual, as well as the Hay River MLA in the 13th Assembly? Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Acting Premier, Mr. Arlooktoo.

Return To Question 291-13(6): Private Meeting Confirmation
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If the Member is asking me whether or not I have had a meeting with the Member for Hay River and another business person, in the last few years, I would say, yes, it probably occurred a couple of times. I have met with most of the MLAs on many private occasions and sometimes with, and sometimes without constituents, some business people, some private people. It is possible. Thank you.

Return To Question 291-13(6): Private Meeting Confirmation
Question 291-13(6): Private Meeting Confirmation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Morin.

Supplementary To Question 291-13(6): Private Meeting Confirmation
Question 291-13(6): Private Meeting Confirmation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I commend the Acting Premier on taking the time to meet with business people from the Northwest Territories. Has he ever met with the MLA from Hay River and a business person to discuss private interest business that the MLA was involved in? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 291-13(6): Private Meeting Confirmation
Question 291-13(6): Private Meeting Confirmation
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.