This is page numbers 1177 - 1204 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine, Honourable Goo Arlooktoo, Mr. Barnabas, Honourable Charles Dent, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Evaloarjuk, Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Henry, Honourable Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Miltenberger, Honourable Don Morin, Honourable Kelvin Ng, Mr. Ningark, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Steen, Honourable Manitok Thompson, Honourable John Todd.

Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Good morning. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good Morning. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to inform the Assembly that later this afternoon, I will sign the Canada/Northwest Territories Labour Market Development Agreement with the Honourable Ethel Blondin-Andrew, Member of Parliament for Western Arctic, Secretary of State for Children and Youth on behalf of the Honourable Pierre Pettigrew, Minister of Human Resources and Development Canada.

I would like to take this opportunity to invite my honourable colleagues from this House to attend the signing ceremony at 2:30 this afternoon in the Great Hall.

This agreement will enable the territorial government to take on a bigger role in the design, management and delivery of labour market programs for unemployed northerners. Under this agreement, $18.8 million will be transferred to the NWT over the next four years to provide programs and services. These funds will support retraining subsidies for employers, employment counselling, and job placement services.

Northerners will be able to access these programs and services through a network of Canada NWT Service Centres in Yellowknife, Fort Simpson, Inuvik, Iqaluit, Rankin Inlet and Hay River. As well, this agreement provides the opportunity for the NWT to expand labour market services to the Kitikmeot region. Human Resources Development Canada will continue to pay financial support direct to unemployed Canadians through its Employment Insurance Program.

Accountability and measurable results are important aspects of the Labour Market Agreement. During 1998-99, we expect to see more than 400 employment insurance clients return to employment or become self-employed after referral to territorial programs and services. This will result in a saving of about $3.6 million to the employment insurance account.

The transfer will take place on April 1st of this year, although the actual implementation will take longer. The two governments will form a transition committee to review the way services are currently provided and create a plan to transfer staff, funding and other resources.

Helping people develop the skills they need to find and keep jobs continues to be a priority for the Government of the NWT and Government of Canada. This agreement clarifies roles and strengthens the collaborative relationship between our two governments. I look forward to this continuing partnership as our governments work together to improve labour market services to northerners.

This collaborative approach should go a long way toward improving opportunities for unemployed northerners to find their way back into the job market. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson.

Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to pay special tribute to the employees of the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, and in particular, those employees who have long service with this department.

It is important to recognize the contribution that long service employees make in the north. We recognize their value and how they play such an important part in the lives of every citizen. Their dedication and commitment to their work and to serving the people of the NWT is truly appreciated.

The department will be presenting Long Service Awards at a special gathering later this afternoon to the following MACA staff:

- Bev Drozda and Linda Weselowski for 20 years of service with the department

- Debbie Decker, Ilona Legler and Ron Tecsy for 15 years service

- Susan Craig, Susan Sheck, Nancy Marchiori, Buddy Williams and Myles Sartor for ten years service.

- In addition, there are two employees from the South Slave - Deh Cho region who have 15 years of service. They are, Gladys Bourke and Ron Hardisty.

Thank you all for your valued contributions and continued hard work.

I hope that today's presentation marks a memorable highlight of your public service careers with the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to inform the Members of this Assembly that the official opening of Aurora College's new Yellowknife Campus takes place today.

This is an important step in the development of the campus. Before the new facility was built, students were taking classes in a number of buildings across Yellowknife, none of which were specifically designed to be instructional space. As of January, however, students from most programs have been taking classes at the new campus in Northern United Place.

This impressive facility features new classrooms and student housing, laboratory space, instructor and administration offices, computer labs with Internet access, library space and a convenient downtown location.

This project is the result of cooperation on the part of the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, the Department of Public Works and Services, the NWT Housing Corporation and Aurora College. I would like to thank the representatives of those agencies whose hard work brought this project to a successful conclusion.

I would also like to mention the northern companies and people who made the new campus building a reality. Architects Gino Pin and Wayne Guy designed the facility while construction was skillfully carried out by Clark Builders and PCL Constructors Northern Inc.

The new campus is an illustration of this government's commitment to ensuring northern students are able to carry out their studies in the best facilities we can provide. This bright, spacious and modern campus will serve the students of Aurora College for many years to come. Mahsi cho.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, In line with Minister Thompson's recognition of long-term employees I would like to take a moment to pay tribute and say thank you to another long-term government employee and more particularly a Legislative Assembly employee who is leaving the north for the warmer climate of British Columbia. Elaine Dierk started work with the Government of the Northwest Territories as a secretary in Fort Smith in 1966. She moved to Yellowknife in 1971 and began working with the Department of Organization and Planning. In her career with the government, Elaine also worked with the Departments of Industry and Development, Education and the Executive. For the last 17 years she has worked for the Legislative Assembly, most recently as the administration officer. Elaine had at one time held the Chamber's supervisor's position and travelled when the circus of the Legislative Assembly went on the road. She has some very interesting stories to tell about those times, Mr. Speaker, but I understand she is saving them for the book. Elaine officially retires on February 27th and I would ask all Members to join with me in expressing our best wishes to her and her daughter Sonja and wishing her good luck in British Columbia. Mr. Speaker, I point out that Elaine is in the gallery with a number of her co-workers from the Legislative Assembly at this time.

--Applause

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Evaloarjuk.

Mark Evaloarjuk Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I rise to inform the Members of the House and my riding that today will be my last day in the House. I had hoped to remain until the last day as February 27th, was supposed to be the final day. I had made prior commitments to attend the opening of the hockey arena in Hall Beach. During our Ordinary Members Caucus I made a motion to adjourn the House and return in the middle of March. It was defeated. My reason for the motion was that I felt that we are getting frustrated with the lack of progress and many questions being asked in the House which do not affect many of the people we represent. This morning, I heard through CBC radio that the public is no longer interested in hearing anymore on the unsigned note that has been discussed. The people in my riding feel there are more important issues that we have to deal with.

Mr. Speaker, if the session was to continue beyond March 3rd, I would have considered returning but that does not make economic sense considering the high cost of my travel. Mr. Speaker, at the end of the day, I hope you will give me the opportunity to second the motion to conclude today's session. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Evaloarjuk. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, during question period, I had asked Minister Antoine for some

clarification on the office space plan in Yellowknife and I made reference to a memo dated February 24th. It provides an overview of where the departments are located within the inventory of the office space in Yellowknife. Also attached to it was information on where the pockets of space are, the surplus, in other words. It also had a statement in that particular letter that the Yellowknife office space plan is intended to bring the departments together so that all staff occupies space in one particular building. When I sought clarification on this, I got some heckling from the other side that said well, read the letter, read the letter. I had the letter in front of me, Mr. Speaker, and I reread it and reread it. Now, I used to be in the editing business and I spent many years in that. I thought, well, perhaps there is something wrong here, maybe I am missing something. Let me read it to you, Mr. Speaker.

There is a 10,000 square foot surplus of space in Lahm Ridge Tower, a building currently occupied by Education, Culture and Employment and the Department of Transportation. However, the Department of Transportation is staffed in a variety of buildings around Yellowknife and the intention within this office space plan is to bring them together in the Lahm Ridge Tower, so they can all work together. Similarly, Education, Culture and Employment have staff in a variety of locations around the community. Those will all be consolidated within the Lahm Ridge Tower.

Then, I went to the allocations of where the departments are located, and I find that the Department of Transportation has a total of 20,879 square feet in other buildings and Education has 13,414 located in different buildings. My point is, Mr. Speaker, there is a total of 34,293 square feet located in other buildings that they are going to squeeze into 10,000 square feet in the one building, in the Lahm Ridge Tower. That is the reason I was seeking clarification. I cannot figure out, I must have some difficulty reading because I cannot figure out where I am going wrong when the Members tell me to read the letter. I just do not understand that, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Henry.

Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have sat in this House for over two-years and have taken for granted that the other Members would slam the city of Yellowknife at every opportunity. In actual fact, Mr. Speaker, complaining about Yellowknife and the decisions made in Yellowknife has been one of the favourite activities in the north ever since the federal government announced that the capital would move to Yellowknife. We are used to it.

However, Mr. Speaker, I rise today with a song on my lips and joy in my heart. Why am I in such a good mood, my colleagues might ask? I am in a good mood because during question period on Tuesday, I actually listened to my honourable colleague from Rankin Inlet defend the decision to provide the City of Yellowknife with an extra $400,000 to market ...

--Applause.

so that it can take advantage of future economic opportunities for Yellowknife and for all of the Northwest Territories. When you represent a riding in Yellowknife, you get used to the status quo and the government not being able to spend at the same rate as other communities. Even the communities of Detah and Ndilo represented by my friend, Mr. Erasmus, and Rae-Edzo, represented by my friend, Mr. Rabesca, are not capital funded the same as other communities in the north because of their unfortunate close proximity to Yellowknife.

I can stand and quote from the ten-year capital report, I could use numbers and percentages to prove my point, but I would probably bore you all to tears. I could say that I do not understand why my colleagues Mr. O'Brien and Mr. Picco were complaining when I look at the level of funding in the communities in their ridings. However, Mr. Speaker, I do understand they have to ask their questions and represent their constituents and get in the occasional round of the north's favourite game, complaining about Yellowknife.

Now, Mr. Speaker, I would again like to remind my colleagues that Yellowknife has taken more of its fair share of the cuts and will be impacted negatively more by division than any other community in the Western Territory. The diamond mines and the $400,000 will help the city market and take advantage of that opportunity. Do not begrudge us a small piece of the pie.

To my honourable colleague, Mr. Todd, thank you for coming to your senses, thank you for realizing that the Northwest Territories includes Yellowknife and thank you for defending my city's right to a prosperous economic future. Finally, Mr. Speaker, I say, good government, good government.

--Applause.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on March 8th, women in Iqaluit will be getting together to celebrate International Women's Day. Mr. Speaker, International Women's Day will have as their focus the theme of women honouring women. The afternoon of March 8th will feature guest speakers and an opportunity for Iqaluit women to get together to talk about common concerns.

Mr. Speaker, all proceeds will be donated to the Qimaavik Women's Shelter and I would like to thank the organizers, Eliza Kingdon, Wende Halonen, Marie Fortier and Ellen Bennett. I would also like to thank the sponsors, DJ Sensations, Arctic Creations, the Bank of Montreal and the Frobisher Inn, for hosting this important event. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. O'Brien.

Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will forego my prepared text and respond to Mr. Henry's earlier statement. Mr. Speaker, just for the record, when myself, Mr. Picco and I believe, Mr. Krutko, spoke of the $400,000 that was allocated or donated to the city of Yellowknife, I think we made it clear that we were not complaining about the donation, we were questioning how the smaller communities could also access that type of money.

The other issue which was brought up was the fact that we were asking what process was used, where did the money come from, who authorized it and where does it sit in the budget. I think that is the issue, the process. That is what we were talking about. We certainly were not complaining about Yellowknife getting $400,000. Thank you.

--Applause.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas.

Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is a conference going on in Yellowknife over the next few days to discuss the plight of the Peary caribou. Representatives from the federal government, the territorial government, the Nunavut Wildlife Management Board, the Inuvialuit and Impact Hunters and Trappers Association, are meeting to share experiences and knowledge on the conservation of the Peary caribou. If we lose the Peary caribou in the north and the only ones left are the breeding ones in the south, I am worried that reintroducing them to the high Arctic at a later date, would not work and would require a high degree of support to make sure the caribou survive.

Mr. Speaker, if we are going to have to feed them when they are reintroduced to the Arctic, why can we not do it now? The people of the Arctic Islands, have very few employment opportunities. In my mind, it makes more sense to bring food to the caribou rather than bring the caribou to the food. We can provide employment in feeding the caribou.

Mr. Speaker, Peary caribou living in Calgary would create employment and economic development through tourism. I would like to strongly urge the government to also try and save the Peary caribou in the wild so that Peary caribou stay wild so that if they ever do reintroduce Peary caribou from the south, there would be at least Peary caribou around to them how to forage for food. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--Applause.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca.

James Rabesca North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I was very pleased to hear the Minister of Housing's Minister's statement on February 23, 1998. It is always good to hear that our lower income earners will not have to pay the mandated 30 percent of their income. This a very high rate for residents and can be a deterrent to find employment.

With this mind, I will ask the Minister if he would consider lowering the rent scale for the entire NWT from the high of 30 percent of income to the lowest level on the rent scale. By doing this, it will make all tenants equal and fair across the board. Our lower income earners across the north need incentives for wanting to go back to work and this may be a good way of doing that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus.