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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Yes, we will. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Are there any further general comments? Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Madam Chairperson, I just had a question, is the Minister in a position to update us on the federal positions that were identified within the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs as potential transfer to the north, does he have an update on that?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you. We have not been told by the federal government what their final report is in regard to the study that they have been doing for about three years now. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. I understand it has many phases. Mr. Ootes, anything further? Any further general comments? Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Similar to Mr. Krutko, I have a long-standing problem with the GNWT hiring process which has been exacerbated by the demolition of the Department of Personnel. We now have a lack of a central personnel agency. While this may have put more control into the hands of the managers in the departments, what this has done is given the perception to the general public that there is really no control over the hiring, I should not say no control, but that there are inconsistencies in the hiring processes and that perhaps people do not really have to be accountable because, with no central agency or no independent body within the hiring process, the only people in that process are the departmental people. What I have heard from a great many people is that they feel that without an independent person or body within the hiring process, that they have no faith in the process. That there is nobody there, if they appeal, to confirm whether what they are complaining about is accurate or inaccurate. This is a real concern of mine. Another concern is the inconsistencies in the departments in applying the Affirmative Action Policy. Apparently, some departments priorize applicants by their affirmative action status, then determine if the candidate meets the criteria. If there are enough affirmative action candidates, the other applicants are not considered. Other departments priorize applicants by how well they do on a selection criteria and secondly by whether or not they are affirmative action candidates. This screening process is more susceptible to having affirmative action candidates who meet criteria overlooked in favour of others with less priority but who do very well on the selection criteria.

Mr. Speaker, this has been researched by our research staff and they have been told that this is the way the departments do it. So, this is another concern, inconsistent application of the Affirmative Action Policy. There are also problems with different classifications within affirmative action. The way it is done right now, you could have a resident woman in the Northwest Territories for one year and they would have a higher priority status than a non-aboriginal man who was born in the Northwest Territories and lived here all his life. So, although I realize that women have traditionally been paid less for doing similar jobs and not really getting into senior management are that well, I do not believe that this is the way that we should go, that someone who has only been in the north for one year should have a higher priority status than another person who was born and raised in the Northwest Territories. These are some of the problems that I have with this hiring process.

Another area that Mr. Krutko had mentioned, which I had written the Premier about, is the way we are treating employees who are laid off from indeterminate positions for various reasons, whether it was for division, downsizing or whatever. When these people were laid off they were told that they would have first priority over the new jobs, in fact, they would have higher priority than affirmative action candidates whether or not they had affirmative action status. A little while ago we instituted another policy, a no layoff policy. To do this no layoff thing we have been holding internal competitions and the people who are supposed to be having priority status to get first crack at the jobs cannot even apply on those internal competitions. They cannot apply, yet when we laid them off we told they can have first crack at any job that comes up. Mr. Chairman, this is total inconsistency in our policies. Meanwhile, while we have this internal competition policy happening, the clock is ticking on the priority status employees. They only have this priority status for a certain length of time. The clock is ticking on them so they cannot apply on jobs and their priority status is slowly going away. What I would like to know is, will the Premier move, and move quickly, to resolve this so that people who are priority status can apply on these internal competitions?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Premier.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I take the comments of the honourable Member very seriously. At the Cli Lake strategy meeting we talked at length about it and the action that we want to move quickly on is we are moving a change in doing away with the internal hiring policy towards Cabinet here in the next few days. Hopefully once we do that, that would alleviate some of the problems that the honourable Member is making reference to. At the same time this will allow for people who have skills outside the government system to have the opportunity, like everybody else, to compete on the positions that will be opening up throughout this government. Hopefully that will alleviate this problem and we are planning to move very quickly on that.

In the other concerns the honourable Member has in regard to the inconsistencies and the accountability and so forth, we are making strong emphasis that the onus is on the Ministers and the deputy ministers, that they have to comply with the policies that have been agreed upon here. Particularly, the Affirmative Action Policy that has to be applied the way it is intended to be. Perhaps there may be some situations in the past where the policies have not been complied to according to the way they are supposed to be, and we have to make sure that we do the policy the way that it is intended to be. There are other concerns the honourable Member had in terms of classification and so forth and there again, I think if we apply the policy according to the way it is supposed to be applied then we should be able to accommodate the concerns of the honourable Member. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Premier. General comments? What is the wish of the committee? Line by line. Page 213, Executive, Commissioner's Office, operations and maintenance, $171,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Total expenditures, $171,000, page 213. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Page 217, Minister's offices, operations and maintenance, $3.347 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Total expenditures, page 219, Minister's offices, grants and contributions. Grants, $50,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Contributions, $445,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair David Krutko

Total grants and contributions, $495,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair David Krutko

Cabinet Secretariat, page 221, operations and maintenance, $4.256 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Public Utilities Board, operations and maintenance, $394,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.