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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Henry.

Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Premier of the Northwest Territories and has to do with my Member's statement today regarding increasing the speed limit on the portion of highway between the Alberta border and Rae-Edzo.

Mr. Speaker, I would refer to the Hansard of May 26, 1998. It was in a response, by the then Minister of Transportation, our present Premier, Mr. Antoine, and it was in response to questions I had asked about increasing the speed limit. The Minister of the day said, and I quote "The department's view has been that we should wait until the whole system is complete between Edzo and Yellowknife before we revisit that again, increasing the speed limit." I also note, in yesterday's Hansard, on a question to Mr. Steen, where I asked where these changes would be implemented. Mr. Steen noted, and I quote "the department is considering all aspects of the motion, including the effect of increasing the speed limit on the highway."

Mr. Speaker, I would remind the Premier that not only was there support for this initiative, we in this House passed legislation to that effect. My question to the Premier and it is not cynical, Mr. Speaker, my question to the Premier is, I want the Premier to tell me, and the people of the Northwest Territories, who is running this show? Is it the Legislature or the Department of Transportation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories takes the direction of the Legislative Assembly very seriously

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and in regard to the bureaucracy, they are there to give us the best advice that they could give us. Based on the advice, we will determine what to do, but the ultimate decision rests with the Cabinet. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when that legislation was introduced in the past, it was very clear that the increasing of the speed limit was on the portion of the highway between the border and Rae-Edzo. Mr. Speaker, it was worded in such a way to give the Minister of Transportation the prerogative to increase it as he saw fit, but it was clear that it was a request to have that speed limit increased between the border and Fort Rae. My question to the Minister is, will he direct the Minister of Transportation, sorry, Mr. Speaker, to the Premier, will he direct his Minister of Transportation and the Deputy Minister of Transportation, to bring back a plan to implement a speed increase to 100 kilometres per hour on the portion of the highway between the border and Fort Rae? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I prefer to work with the other Ministers in the Cabinet and not necessarily direct them to do certain things, as well as the direction of the Legislative Assembly. It is the prerogative of the Minister to work with his department. You have to realize that we are a new Cabinet, and this legislation was passed last fall in November or December, so I think the advice of the bureaucracy is that we should try to wait until things thaw out so that the road condition stabilizes as well as taking into consideration the safety factor.

However, I could commit that I will work with my Minister of Transportation and look at the new speed limit to those sections of the highway that have been reviewed by the department, the Highway 1 and Highway 3, Alberta border to the Rae-Edzo area. I will make a commitment that we will review it and make a commitment to come forward within three weeks to you, to the rest of the Legislative Assembly, with a decision that will come along with looking at this section of the highway. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development. Just in a follow-up on Mr. Krutko's questions on the marketing of the goods from the subsidiaries of the Northwest Territories Development Corporation. I understand that Arctic Trading Company was created in order to do this. Could the Minister explain how the Arctic Trading Company worked up to this point? Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Previous to my assuming this portfolio, the subsidiaries under the Development Corporation had used products ranging from moccasins to dolls and carvings, through subsidiaries, most of which are located now in the territory of Nunavut. There was no concerted effort to market and no particular operation that did exclusive marketing. Since assuming the portfolio, we have seen the creation of Arctic Trading Company which, again, marketed mostly eastern Arctic products, and also set up certain outlets in southern Canada, namely, I believe, in Vancouver, Victoria, Calgary and Toronto, are the stores that the marketing arm set up and operated. With division happening the marketing arm, Arctic Trading, found itself as a million dollar operation with very little produce, in fact, left to market since the Eastern Arctic

has insisted that they will set up their own operations and do not wish to use Arctic Trading any longer. That is, in very general terms, what has been happening over the last three years. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister had indicated that the Arctic Trading Company had its funding reduced. Presumably that has resulted in some repercussions to the company. What kind of changes have been made to reflect the reduced funding? Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, because of the impact of division and because of concerns with the Auditor General that have been outstanding for some years, that we have been unable to resolve substantially, although the documents that we provided to the standing committee on the review of the Main Estimates were given the target of a lower $4 million for the Development Corporation, we have in fact asked that in view of the impact of division, and the need to look at Arctic Trading and the size of headquarters to ask the Development Corporation to look at putting together a new work plan with a reduced allocation to the Development Corporation. Mr. Soloy, who was the President at that time, had undertaken to develop such a business plan. We had indicated to the standing committee at that time that was what we intended to do.

There is still no revised business plan prepared by the Development Corporation since the new President at this time is reviewing the operations and reviewing the concerns of the Auditor General and meeting with the Development Corporation subsidiaries to get a good understanding of the state of the Development Corporation before undertaking to meet the commitment that I have asked him to meet. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can appreciate that there is no business plan done yet, however, I imagine that people are still selling goods from these subsidiaries, as they are supposed to be doing. If your budget has been cut in half, or in one quarter, or one tenth or whatever, you usually reduce. So what I want to know is, how has the Arctic Trading Company reduced or downsized or whatever you want to call it in order to react to the reduction in its funding? Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I have said earlier, because of division the amount of product that the Arctic Trading Company is expected to market has been reduced substantially. There is very little product from the eastern Arctic, very few subsidiaries that are, in fact, being serviced by the Development Corporation since division. Therefore it is difficult to rationalize continuing to fund the Development Corporation, specifically the headquarters and the Arctic Trading Company at the level that we were funding it previous to division. That was the reason I had asked if the Development Corporation President could prepare a new business plan to meet the reduction in overall funding of the operations of the Development Corporation. It was not intended to reduce the funding we give to the subsidiaries or to the level of subsidies that we provide to the community operations that we have. I think that should be clear.

Members are also aware that with the sunsetting of the Northern Employment Strategy, we are short of funding for operations like the Community Futures and there is a demand by communities and regions to set up loan operations as we have, and we need to free up funding in other areas in order to meet this demand as well. The intent is to recognize that the Development Corporation is no longer of the size that it was previous to division and, with the impact of division, it is my expectation that we can reduce the level of funding to the Development Corporation without impacting negatively the viability and ongoing operations of those businesses that we have set up in the communities. In fact, we will do what we can to enhance those through the reduction and reallocation of resources. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Minister for the reassurances that he is not going to be cutting money to the subsidiaries. However, I did not say one word or ask any questions or make any comments about the subsidiaries or the money going to the subsidiaries. The Minister has cut the funding to the Arctic Trading Company. How have they reduced their costs? Have they shut down some stores? Have they laid off all of their employees? That is all I want to know.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Development Corporation has not submitted a revised business plan or prepared one that could be reviewed by myself at this time. That is underway. We have indicated to them that the level of funding that we give them will be reduced and the challenge to the Development Corporation President is to try to meet that target. What specifically they are doing, I am not certain exactly what has been done to date but I believe that an outlet that had been set up by Mr. Soloy, for instance, in BC outside of Vancouver, is closing or has been closed and we are also looking at closing an outlet in Calgary. Both of these

locations have been losing money and have been a drain on the resources of the Development Corporation. I would require more information before I can give other specific measures that may have been undertaken at this time. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Morin.