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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Is there such a fund which is still being implemented in the Nunavut area?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. That is not within the scope of the Minister's responsibility. Mr. Steen, did you want to answer that?

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Perhaps Mr. Rattray would like to respond.

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Rattray

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. My understanding is yes, the granular fund is still in revolving fund and the funding mechanism is still in place in Nunavut. It is an issue which we believe they are going to have to deal with in the short term, however, it was not possible to deal with it prior to division. That is something that is going to be on their order books over the next year or two to address.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Rattray. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Especially in the riding I represent, gravel is a pretty expensive commodity which a lot of communities and municipalities and whatnot have a pretty hard time just to try to maintain infrastructure. You hear about the problems we have in the Inuvik region with pilings and whatever, but also the other problem is the gravel resources, especially in the Inuvik region, where there are limited stockpiles and resources and the cost of gravel is pretty high. A lot of the municipalities cannot maintain their infrastructure, roads, airstrips, and whatnot, without this commodity, and I think it is important for the west to consider that we do reinstate such a program, especially with the problems that I have seen in my riding in which any infrastructure, construction or whatever, depends on that commodity which is gravel. I see that we have to find some way of reinstating this program for those areas where there is a problem that we see with regard to erosion or problems in the Inuvik region with pilings and whatnot. The only option you have is gravel because of the permafrost problem that we have in the northern part of the Northwest Territories. It is something that we have to take into account and I strongly suggest to the Minister that they consider reinstating this program.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, as a Member of the Beaufort Delta, I am well aware of the problem of gravel and the cost associated with gravel, and also I am aware of the plan that in the past Public Works and Services did assist the communities in bringing down the price of gravel by stockpiling for community use. This was an effort to address all the different needs within the community. This did assist in the communities in bringing the cost down. However, the department in the past few years has worked their way from stockpiling gravel. What we need to do now is reexamine the requirement for gravel within the small communities and perhaps reexamine whether the department may wish to go back into this stockpiling of gravel. It is going to have to be in consultation with the communities. We will not do it without consulting with the committees as to whether or not this is the way to go. It is expensive and it is a lot of revenue tied up. I can commit that we will reconsider it and get back to the committee.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Information item, granular program revolving fund. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Information item, petroleum products revolving fund. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Information item, petroleum product revolving fund, active positions. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Details of work performed on behalf of others. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, I had a question earlier in regard to service and charge back of services with the Government of Nunavut, specifically in relationship to computer services. Could the Minister tell me if that is addressed in this work performed on behalf of others?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, I will ask Mr. Rattray to respond.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Rattray.

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Rattray

Madam Chairperson, there are two ways that the systems and communications component is dealt with in charge backs to Nunavut. We have one component that is associated with our centrally delivered services and there are some direct relationships and there is a service agreement in there whereby we charge back to Nunavut for some of those central services. In addition to that, each of the program departments, typically they own a system or have two or three systems of their own which are integral to delivering a program or a service to Nunavut. What they have done is they have included that as a component of their service agreement. For example, it health and social services has to maintain a database, and Nunavut requires access to that database, then through the individual health and social services arrangements they would recover some of their cost for that system. There are a couple of different ways that it is managed right now.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Rattray. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

That answers my question, Madam Chairperson. I noted what I had understood to be somewhat larger revenue recovery, but that would explain the reason for the difference. Therefore, the explanation is that it is likely in the individual departments, revenue should be identified for computer services. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Details of work performed of behalf of others. Total department, $2.527 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Back to page 5-7, Public Works and Services, program summary, operations and maintenance, $36.842 million. Agreed?