This is page numbers 899 - 928 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Members Present

Honourable Roger Allen, Honourable Jim Antoine, Mr. Bell, Mr. Braden, Mr. Dent, Mrs. Groenewegen, Honourable Joe Handley, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Lee, Mr. McLeod, Honourable Michael Miltenberger, Nr. Nitah, Honourable Jake Ootes, Mr. Roland, Honourable Vince Steen, Honourable Tony Whitford

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Item 1: Prayer
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Steen.

Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, municipal governments across Canada are increasingly challenged to keep pace with their infrastructure needs. A pressure shared by many municipalities is the need to maintain and replace aging water and sewage systems.

Tax-based communities in the Northwest Territories are no exception to this rule. The cost of replacing aging water and sewer infrastructure in the North is considerable. We've heard concerns raised by Members of this House about the lack of infrastructure support for tax-based municipalities.

I am pleased that in spite of fiscal constraints, my department has been successful in maintaining a cost-shared water and sewer infrastructure program. Under this program, tax-based communities are eligible to receive up to 50 percent of the total cost for replacing water and sewer infrastructure, depending on the number of applications received and their fit with program priorities which are identified annually.

I am also pleased to advise this Assembly that the tax-based communities of Inuvik, Norman Wells, Yellowknife, Fort Simpson, Hay River and Fort Smith will all receive some funding support towards water and sewer infrastructure this year, for a total of $2.5 million in funding.

In the 2002-2003 fiscal year we were able to enhance the funding available to these communities by accessing the Canada/NWT infrastructure program. Additional funding of $1.86 million was provided towards water and sewer system replacement, for a total of $4.26 million in repairs and replacement last summer.

Mr. Speaker, earlier this year in his Budget Address, the federal Minister of Finance announced that new funding would be available through the Canada strategic infrastructure funding for municipal governments. We will strive to ensure that an appropriate portion of this funding is made available to provide further support for our tax-based municipalities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. Allen.

Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to have this opportunity to report on an agreement signed between the governments of Northwest Territories and Nunavut. This agreement will generate a guaranteed revenue of close to $1 million a year until at least March 31, 2006.

This agreement means that the Government of Nunavut will place a minimum of 15 offenders in NWT Department of Justice correction facilities. This will result in a guaranteed annual revenue to the Government of the Northwest Territories of at least $926,000 a year.

Mr. Speaker, based on past history, the Department of Justice expects more than the minimum guarantee of 15 offenders to be placed in our facilities. Over the past four years, the average number of inmates from Nunavut has ranged between 18 and 44. For 2002-2003, the department received $1,697,347 in revenue from the Government of Nunavut for placement of offenders.

The Department of Justice also receives revenue from the federal government for the placement of federal offenders in our correctional facilities. This means that Northerners serving federal sentences in the south can return to the North and serve their sentences close to their families and community.

In 2003, the repatriation of federal offenders generated $1,132,288 in revenue for the Government of the Northwest Territories. This number is expected to increase substantially with the opening of the North Slave Correctional Facility.

These revenues are mainly for adult male Nunavut and federal offenders. The construction of the North Slave Correctional Facility increases our ability to accept offenders. The revenue we receive will help pay the cost of providing these facilities and programs to NWT residents.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, this agreement speaks to the quality of supervision and programming provided by the Department of Justice. Establishing a safe and secure corrections system focused on rehabilitation, has resulted in a regular source of revenue from other jurisdictions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 2, Minister' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Ootes.

Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I would like us all to take time to congratulate all our college and high school graduates who worked so very hard to get to where they are today. Every step towards education is a step well taken.

We all know that a graduate does not do it alone. There are many factors that support our students. Many people share in their success. We need to congratulate and recognize those who work with such dedication to ensure our graduates' success.

Let me especially thank and congratulate the families who give their support to make sure that their children have a supportive and stable home life. They are a key element of any student's success.

There are the teachers, adult educators and college instructors who work with such dedication because they believe in what they do to enrich our next generation. We have the principals, the administrative professionals and the college staff who provide the students with the structure and the necessary tools for learning.

As well, there are those that may not immediately come to mind when we think of the success of our graduates: the volunteers who give so freely of their time to help in so many ways throughout all our schools, colleges and learning centres; the board members and college staff who work throughout the year to assist our citizens in higher education; our superintendents, chairs and members of the educational councils and authorities.

Mr. Speaker, behind each and every one of our graduates there is a network and a system of support of dedicated Northerners. I ask you to join me today to show our appreciation not only for the graduates of the North, but to each and every one who assisted them as they reached their goals. Congratulations.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Roland.

Increased Cost Of Power In Inuvik
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to raise the issue of the cost of living in our communities, and I refer to the community I represent, Inuvik. I've heard on a number of occasions, through constituents, about the cost of living and the cost of power, specifically, in Inuvik. We heard a lot and asked about the rate rider that was placed on customers across the NWT. But, Mr. Speaker, that issue alone has only stirred it up amongst constituents about what we're getting for our dollars and why the continued increases. I've approached the Minister to try to address some of my constituents' concerns about the rising cost of power.

Mr. Speaker, I've been informed that there are a number of different things happening, but questions need to be answered, at least for my residents in our community, about what opportunities they have and how they can address their concerns through the Power Corporation if it's a complaint about their bills, or if it's about the increases they face in their community.

It's not good enough just to say that your power bill has doubled because you've used the power, when residents are questioning the fact that they seem to have startling increases not just because of rate riders, but for their consumption. Mr. Speaker, when you throw that on top of the potential for further increases as the Power Corporation has gone forward for rate increases across the board, constituents are concerned about what this winter will bring. I will be asking the Minister questions about the Power Corporation and how residents can seek satisfaction regarding their billing inquiries. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Qujannamiik. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to talk about why a bridge across the Mackenzie River at Fort Providence is a good thing to the entire Northwest Territories and not just those residents north of Great Slave Lake.

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Hear, hear.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, I went home for lunch yesterday and I was pondering out loud what I should make my Member's statement on, and my son was there -- Jordan -- and he said, Mom, talk about the bridge. So to the younger generation this is a very, very important thing.

We're kind of nostalgic about the ferry and that gravel that used to come as far as Manning, Alberta. We talk about the old days. But we can't stop progress. So the Deh Cho Bridge will provide an all-season link to Fort Providence, Fort Rae and Yellowknife, and this is long overdue. There will be increased tourist traffic once the bridge and the paving is completed, and the uncertainties of ferry and ice bridge openings and closings are removed.

Mr. Speaker, increased tourist traffic means more people stopping along the way and purchasing goods and services. This is good for business and will result in increased economic development to meet the demands for more goods and services.

In addition, Mr. Speaker, the mines serviced by the winter road going north of Yellowknife will benefit from an all-season link to the south. Marshalling activities related to transporting of materials can take place in Hay River, Enterprise and Yellowknife without having to worry about whether you can get your goods across the river when it's time to transport north. This could reduce the strain on our highways by spreading out the load over a longer period of time and also make it safer for members of the public travelling on our highways in the winter.

The Deh Cho Bridge is also good for the environment. Mr. Speaker, we all remember when the fuel tanker broke through the ice bridge a few years back, and how lucky we were that there were no serious environmental consequences. The bridge will make it safer to transport hazardous materials all year long. The people living downriver should be relieved that the potential for environmental damage will be reduced by the completion of this bridge.

I also believe, Mr. Speaker, that the construction of the Deh Cho Bridge will be good for consumers north of the lake by reducing the costs passed on to them during freeze-up and break-up cycles. Of course, that cost of living will never rival the low cost of living in places like Hay River and Fort Smith, though.

Mr. Speaker, the construction of the Deh Cho Bridge is an example of what can be accomplished by a small community when they are willing to work together to find a solution to a common challenge and to achieve a net benefit for their people. The Fort Providence Combined Council Alliance, along with the Government of the Northwest Territories, is to be commended for working together on developing an economically viable bridge across the Deh Cho that will ultimately benefit all residents of the Northwest Territories. I wish the Deh Cho Bridge Corporation every success and look forward to driving across this bridge in 2005. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. I will just bring to the attention of the Members that when they make Member's statements they should be cautious that they don't make statements of items that may be on the Order Paper already. The chair took this under advisement, and it felt close to but not quite on. Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. McLeod.

The Benefits Of Negotiated Contracts
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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the issue of negotiated contracts is one that has caused much discussion, mostly negative, in the construction industry. However, Mr. Speaker, negotiated contracts are a beneficial option to those communities outside the larger centres, in that they provide an opportunity for capacity building.

Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that a draft negotiated contracts policy is currently under consideration and, until a decision is made, those guidelines established during the 13th Assembly by this government give us authority to enter into negotiated contracts. Mr. Speaker, those guidelines clearly state that a proposed negotiated contract is to provide opportunities and to improve the skills and experience of residents and northern businesses, or to realize economic benefits for residents.

To enter into a negotiated contract, the parties are required to have the support of not only this government, but that of the community as well. This requirement ensures effective community consultation.

Mr. Speaker, upon review and reflection of those guidelines, I only have to look at those communities in the Deh Cho to understand the reasons why such guidelines are in place. It is the smaller communities, such as those in the Deh Cho, that have limited capacity and resources, but when combined do have the qualified people and businesses for many of the capital projects this government undertakes.

It is these communities, people and businesses that have the best interest of the whole community at heart. These people and businesses employ local people, they train local people and they use local goods and services.

Mr. Speaker, we can continue to have contractors from outside the smaller communities undertake many of these projects, but what is the real benefit to the people and the community? Who is monitoring these outside contractors to ensure that they are following the BIP guidelines?

Mr. Speaker, this government should consider the positive impact that negotiated contracts have on the communities' ability to build capacity over time. This government should consider the benefits of having community people and businesses undertake such capital projects over a number of years, to provide consistency and stability in employment, training and growth. Every project taking place in the smaller communities should be considered for negotiation first, and tendering second. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

NWT Business Incentive Policy
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to talk about the Northwest Territories business incentive policy, better known as BIP. The BIP is a policy which greatly extends opportunities in the Northwest Territories. The Government of the Northwest Territories supports the creation, growth and improvement of northern business as a foundation of the Northwest Territories' economy and provides opportunities to northern business with incentives to operate in the North. The BIP allows northern businesses to compete with southern-based businesses and also provides employment to those northern businesses, securing employment opportunities, ensuring that revenues from the northern businesses remain in the North where it is circulated throughout our economy and creates other initiatives.

Mr. Speaker, sorry to burst the bubble; however, it must be revealed that the perfect world of the BIP is often just an illusion. The BIP begins with the criteria that grant northern business status. In order to qualify as a northern business, a business must be majority owed by northern residents and must employ a manager in a storefront in the Northwest Territories. But, Mr. Speaker, the criteria to becoming a northern business are certainly not perfect.

The problem with the BIP is that there are loopholes so that any southern or multinational business with an interest in the North, with deep pockets and a nose to find loopholes, is able to worm itself through the BIP process, to disguise itself as a true northern business and gain preferential treatment from the Government of the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, to give an example, Diavik uses services from an electric company based in Yellowknife. The company is classified as a northern firm and involved in many important projects in the mining industry in the areas of design, construction, supplying generation of boiler houses and heating systems, just to name a few. It is approved as a northern business.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you. The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his Member's statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Krutko, you may conclude your statement.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this may not seem remarkable, but for the fact that on paper this business just has one employee based in a small office here in Yellowknife. It's beginning to affect the industry by having an individual to carry out an operation out of a storefront. That's truly remarkable, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, digging a little deeper, one learns that this one-employee company that so generously accepts the incentives from the Government of the Northwest Territories through the BIP, is itself a subsidiary of a larger company based in southern Canada. But the tale doesn't end there, Mr. Speaker. This larger partner company turns out to be part of an even larger company which has interests in California, New Jersey and the Grand Camen Islands. Indeed, a northern company, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, sometimes we must look deeply to see what it is the business incentive policy's intentions were, and how to fill the loopholes. In order to protect the original intent of the business incentive policy, government must come up with a more appropriate set of criteria that truly are there to benefit northern businesses which are built in the North, generate jobs in the North and keep their profits in the North.

Mr. Speaker, southern corporations, such as the one I mentioned, should not be receiving BIP under the existing policy. So with that, Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister responsible for this program questions later. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Nitah.

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to speak about the quality of life in our communities today. In the March session, we spent a lot of time in this House with the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs discussing the very important issue of the quality of life in our communities, specifically dealing with dust control. I know the department has a plan that the communities do not know about. I will be asking the Minister some questions relating to my statement so that I can give him a chance for public announcements in the House.

Mr. Speaker, when we finished the last session we talked about dust monitoring stations throughout the Northwest Territories to determine where dust is at the highest levels, so we could appropriately direct our resources to address those that need it the most first and move our way down, knowing our fiscal restraints. However, the government came back after the fact, saying that it's too costly and administratively too cumbersome to put these dust monitoring stations in every community, therefore, we're going to continue with what we planned.

If Members and colleagues remember correctly, they're going to start the dust control in Tuktoyaktuk. My argument at that time was why are we starting way up north when they have the earliest snow fall and the snow melts the latest? Dust control in the south should be a priority because we have summer here a little bit longer. But that seems to have gone by the wayside. So I'm going to ask the Minister where are we starting first, how are we going to get dust controls in every community, and how long will it take? This is a very important issue for all our communities that don't have paved streets or chipsealed streets.

The consumption of water is regulated by a national standard. We consume less than that. People are having more and more problems with their respiratory systems because of the dust. People with allergies have to leave work a little earlier. These are all the issues that are felt, and the government has not responded to them as of yet. So I'll be asking the Minister responsible for the communities some questions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Mahsi, Mr. Nitah. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for the North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.

Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last Wednesday's Yellowknifer had an article about the NWT Construction Association and their opposition to the negotiated contracts for government projects. Mr. Speaker, I was surprised to see my name included in a list of seven MLAs opposed to negotiated contracts.

When I was approached by the Construction Association about where I stood on the issue of negotiated contracts, I responded that there have been a lot of issues with the way DPW does their contracts, and it is time that this government really looks at whether the process is benefiting the North or not. One suggestion I had made for the Construction Association was that perhaps they could be given notice of impending contracts before negotiations start. I would like to make it clear that my issue is not with negotiated contracts. In fact, I have supported negotiated contracts in my own riding since I was elected. I can name three of them. One was the Bay Island Bridge, the other one was the Edzo fire hall and the other one is the winter road construction between the smaller communities. Mr. Speaker, by supporting them, I feel I am encouraging local employment.

My issue is with the inconsistent process this government uses to award contracts. It seems as though each department follows its own regulations as to how to hand out contracts. Mr. Speaker, there has been a lot of controversy over how the government selects and how it runs projects. For example, how the government handled the cost overruns for the new correctional facility in Yellowknife. That made a lot of people question the government's ability to plan and follow a budget. Many ridings lost out on opportunities for services because so much money was eaten up by the cost overruns for this facility. The multi-million dollar government contract that was recently awarded to Buffalo Airways angered Northerners who felt that they did not have the opportunity to be considered for this contract. These are just two of them.

Mr. Speaker, one part of being an open and accountable government is to have regulations which are consistent across departments and which are clear to the companies bidding on the contracts. Mr. Speaker, I think the way contracts are awarded needs to be a fair process for all Northerners and that they benefit all communities and also the aboriginal governments that we have agreements with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Braden.