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Bill 14: An Act To Amend The Public Service Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Again, with all due respect, what Mr. Krutko is referring to is a wage or pay equity issue and it is something that goes beyond the purpose of this legislation. It is a good issue that we need to look at, but it is beyond the scope and purpose of this legislation. It is something that is a big issue. If we want to do it, then my advice is that we should review it very carefully and look at all of the issues around it. Mr. Chairman, this piece of legislation does not take away anything and it certainly does not require or bind future employers who provide government services to have to follow the Government of the Northwest Territories employment arrangements. It leaves it as it is. Communities in some situations may even pay more. I don't know. They may be giving more pay and benefits than we get in government, but we as a government never enter into agreements to save money. I do not know of any of them that we have that may, and probably most or all of them cost us more money. But the bottom line is we cannot impose our employment arrangements onto another employer.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Minister Handley. The chair recognizes, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't have any comments at this point. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The chair will recognize Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, will the Minister consider separate legislation to deal with the whole contracting out issue in regard to the whole range of services that are being delivered on behalf of this government through a contract? Will the Minister consider looking at that legislation so we can see how those people who provide a public service can have some protection from the human rights legislation in place now, and if we are at some sort of legislation to ensure that when we do have contracts in place, it is outside of the government day-to-day operations to provide public services such as mental health services or economic development services or income support services, that those contracts will be looked at through some sort of legislation to ensure that they are being fairly treated as employees of this government and that they are not being paid less than people doing work of similar value in the public service?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Minister Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, yes. I will take a look at the issues around it and try to scope out what the issues are on that whole pay equity issue that Mr. Krutko is referring to. The wage parity issue, I am sorry. The wage parity issue that Mr. Krutko is referring to, I don't have any solutions to it, but we can help to scope out what the issues are around that one. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Minister Handley. The chair will recognize the clock and rise to report progress. Thank you, Minister Handley, and your witnesses, for appearing.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

The House will come back to order. May I have the report of Committee of the Whole, please?

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

June 10th, 2003

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Delorey

Mr. Speaker, you committee has been considering Bill 14, An Act to Amend the Public Service Act. I would like to report progress and, Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of Committee of the Whole be concurred with.

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey. Do we have a seconder for the motion? Yes, the honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes seconds the motion. The motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 21, third reading of bills. Mr. Clerk, may we have the orders of the day?

Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

There will be a meeting of the Standing Committee on Accountability and Oversight at adjournment tonight and again at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning.

Orders of the day for Thursday, June 12, 2003:

  1. Prayer
  2. Ministers' Statements
  3. Members' Statements
  4. Reports of Standing and Special Committees
  5. Returns to Oral Questions
  6. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
  7. Oral Questions
  8. Written Questions
  9. Returns to Written Questions
  10. Replies to Opening Address
  11. Petitions
  12. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
  13. Tabling of Documents
  14. Notices of Motion
  15. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills
  16. Motions
  17. First Reading of Bills

- Bill 18, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 1, 2003-2004

- Bill 29, NWT Business Development and Investment Corporation Act

  1. Second Reading of Bills

- Bill 28, An Act to Amend the Official Languages Act

  1. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

- Bill 13, Deh Cho Bridge Act

- Bill 14, An Act to Amend the Public Service Act

  1. Report of Committee of the Whole
  2. Third Reading of Bills
  3. Orders of the Day

Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until June 12th, at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 6:10 p.m.