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Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you. Just to follow up on what my colleague is saying; first of all, I guess I want to make a comment. I don't know why this particular legislation, Bill 17, is a high priority for this government.

---Applause

Number one. There are other priorities, like the Wildlife Act, that have been sitting on our books for the last how many years...

Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Hear! Hear!

Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

March 8th, 2005

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

...and now this thing comes up and the government puts this as high priority. We know what's happening in Ottawa. Why couldn't they wait until that issue was dealt with? Specifically to this clause, Mr. Chairman, they're mixing apples and oranges here.

---Laughter

You know? Not oranges to oranges, but apples to oranges. On one hand what they're doing, it's not a laughing matter. What they're doing is for the unmarried common-law couples for the benefits, as the Minister indicated, in some of our laws that we have in place the benefits for common-law couples they don't receive now because of the way our law is. I agree with the Minister that those types of amendments have to come forward so that the unmarried common-law couples can receive those types of things and make all those necessary changes as these ones. But on the other hand, for same-sex couples they're giving them the same thing. By doing that, you're basically agreeing with same-sex marriage. It ties together.

---Applause

So why didn't the government, to play it on the safe side, particularly for the majority of the people in the Territories, separate those two issues and bring in a bill pertaining to unmarried common-law spouses so they fit into this bill. Maybe at a later date, after what happens in Ottawa, bring in another amendment for the same-sex marriage to make the same amendments. Why couldn't they do that rather than lumping it all together? That's my question to the Minister on spouses.

Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you. On clause 5, as amended. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Whether the federal government actually changes the definition of marriage or not we should still proceed with this legislation. Even if the definition of marriage isn't changed, we should proceed with this. The Member just agreed that heterosexual common-law couples shouldn't be discriminated against simply because they're not legally married. That is supported by the courts. Well, the courts have supported the exact same thing with same-sex couples. You can't discriminate against them simply because they're not legally married. You can't say they're not a couple. So whether the definition of marriage is changed or not, it has nothing to do with whether or not couples have rights. The courts have found that heterosexual couples, whether they're married or not, have rights, as do same-sex couples.

Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Zoe. Clause 5, as amended.

Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Clause 6.

Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 34-15(3) To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 17: Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Clause 7. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 35-15(3) To Amend Clause 7 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Mr. Chairman, I move that subclause 7(3) of Bill 17 be amended by striking out "section 7 of Bill_," in proposed subsection 1(3) of the Intestate Succession Act and by substituting "section 7 of Bill 17,".

Mr. Chairman, this motion amends sub-clause 7(3) to correct an internal reference back to Bill 17, Modernization of Benefits and Obligations Act, in a new transitional provision being added to the Intestate Succession Act. Thank you.

Committee Motion 35-15(3) To Amend Clause 7 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 35-15(3) To Amend Clause 7 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 35-15(3) To Amend Clause 7 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Clause 7, as amended.

Committee Motion 35-15(3) To Amend Clause 7 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 35-15(3) To Amend Clause 7 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Clause 8. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 36-15(3) To Amend Clause 8 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Mr. Chairman, I move that the following be added after clause 8 of Bill 17:

Wildlife Act

8.1. Paragraph 30(3)(a) of the Wildlife Act is amended by deleting "wife or widow" and by substituting "spouse or surviving spouse".

Mr. Chairman, this motion adds a new clause to the bill which will provide an amendment to the Wildlife Act which presently permits the wife or widow of a general hunting licence holder to hunt in a wildlife preserve in certain circumstances. The reference to wife or widow excludes men, women who live in heterosexual common-law relationships and same-sex spouses of either sex. As amended, paragraph 30(3)(a) will include the spouse and surviving spouse of the holder of a general hunting licence.

Committee Motion 36-15(3) To Amend Clause 8 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 36-15(3) To Amend Clause 8 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 36-15(3) To Amend Clause 8 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Clause 8, as amended.

Committee Motion 36-15(3) To Amend Clause 8 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee Motion 36-15(3) To Amend Clause 8 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Clause 9. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 37-15(3) To Amend Clause 9 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Mr. Chairman, I move that clause 9 of Bill 17 be amended by striking out "section 6 of Bill," in proposed subsection 10(5) of the Wills Act and by substituting "section 6 of Bill 17,".

Mr. Chairman, this motion amends clause 9 to correct an internal reference back to Bill 17, Modernization of Benefits and Obligations Act, in a transitional provision being added to the Wills Act. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 37-15(3) To Amend Clause 9 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Ramsay.

Committee Motion 37-15(3) To Amend Clause 9 Of Bill 17, Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act, Carried
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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just an observation. Again, I'm not on the Social Programs committee, but why are we bringing forward so many different amendments on the floor of the House and why isn't it a much cleaner piece of legislation? Thank you.