This is page numbers 701 - 744 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Members Present

Honourable Brendan Bell, Mr. Braden, Honourable Paul Delorey, Honourable Charles Dent, Mrs. Groenewegen, Honourable Joe Handley, Mr. Hawkins, Honourable David Krutko, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Lee, Honourable Michael McLeod, Mr. McLeod, Mr. Menicoche, Honourable Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Pokiak, Mr. Ramsay, Honourable Floyd Roland, Mr. Villeneuve, Mr. Yakeleya

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Good morning, colleagues. Welcome back to the House. Orders of the day. Ministers' statements. The honourable Premier, Mr. Handley.

Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Mackenzie gas project is critical to the long-term strategic interests of the Northwest Territories and to the social and economic future of our people and our communities. This project will provide significant opportunity for residents of the Northwest Territories to take control of their economic future.

On February 14th, the Joint Review Panel on the Mackenzie gas project will begin its public hearings to evaluate the potential environmental and socio-economic impacts of the project in the project area.

The Joint Review Panel is one of two hearing processes being undertaken on this project. The GNWT has already filed evidence and will also be participating in hearings being held by the National Energy Board.

Yesterday, the Government of the Northwest Territories filed a general submission with the Joint Review Panel. Copies of our submission can be obtained through the Joint Review Panel's public registry.

The Government of the Northwest Territories wants to ensure that if the Mackenzie gas project proceeds, it is undertaken in a manner that is environmentally, socially, culturally and economically sustainable. Our submission to the Joint Review Panel is based on the premise that this may be achieved if:

  • • the proponents implement commitments on project-related impacts;
  • • the project is subject to ongoing monitoring, mitigation and reporting; and,
  • • the proponents complete a socio-economic agreement with our government.

Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories maintains qualified support for the Mackenzie gas project based upon the information currently available. We intend to continue working with the proponents, other interveners and aboriginal organizations throughout the public hearing phase of the environmental review of the project to ensure our concerns and issues are addressed.

During the hearing phase of the environmental review, the Government of the Northwest Territories will provide presentations and evidence to support the recommendations contained in our general submission.

Our participation will allow us to learn more about the project, the concerns of others, and to consider adjustments to our recommendations. We fully expect the issues we have identified to be resolved during the hearing process as the proponents provide further information and make additional commitments.

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories will make our final recommendations to the Joint Review Panel at the conclusion of the public hearing phase. These recommendations will be based on the commitments made by the proponents, the recommendations made by other interveners and any agreements reached with the proponents during the hearing phase. We are confident any outstanding issues will be addressed by the Joint Review Panel in its final report to the federal and responsible Ministers.

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories' qualified support for the project, as outlined in our general submission, opens the door for the proponents to address our recommendations. We look forward to participating in this process. Thank you. Mahsi cho.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Ministers' statements. The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am proud to announce that this week the NWT is hosting its first ever STOP TB conference. The aim of this two-day conference is to educate our frontline health care providers about diagnosing, treating and preventing the spread of this infectious bacterial disease.

The tuberculosis rate in our territory has remained five to 10 times above the national average over the past decade. It is especially troubling that TB rates are highest among our aboriginal population. The disease spreads through the air and can infect anyone. As Members know, this can be very serious.

In 2001, the Department of Health and Social Services developed an action plan to strengthen TB management and control in the NWT and this includes increasing public

awareness about TB, enhancing training for primary health care workers, and ensuring public health resources are available to support the TB Program.

The Department of Health and Social Services and the NWT Medical Association are co-sponsoring this conference and over 160 physicians, nurses and other health care providers from the NWT, Nunavut and Yukon are in attendance.

This conference is an opportunity to educate all of the attendees about the disease of tuberculosis, the NWT TB Program infrastructure and specific northern resources for diagnosis, treatment and community efforts towards TB control.

One of the key speakers at this conference will be Dr. Anne Fanning, a TB expert, who has done two external reviews of our TB Program. Dr. Fanning recently concluded her second evaluation of the TB Program and indicated while there are still challenges for the elimination of tuberculosis in the NWT, such as the need to diagnose the cases in the early stage of disease, significant improvements have been made. Dr. Fanning's report notes, "The recommendations are made in the light of the excellent progress to date and the likelihood that the NWT will soon enter the era of TB elimination. They address two areas of need: education and staffing. They recognize the need to use resources efficiently, but to sustain and strengthen surge capacity for TB control"

As such, this conference will allow the opportunity to present evidence of recommended standards of practice, thus informing clinicians how to diagnose disease and intercept the continued spread of this airborne infectious disease.

I would like to take this opportunity to recognize the work that is being done to fight this disease and the need for continued vigilance. We are providing training and orientation to health care workers at all levels, including doctors, nurses, community health representatives and TB workers.

Mr. Speaker, I am very proud of the work that has been done, but it is clear that we still have a long way to go. With this important TB conference, I hope we can continue this work and lower our TB rates to zero. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Ministers' statements. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

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David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am going to speak today about our budget process and how I feel that Regular Members need to have more input into major decisions, especially considering the constant state of flux that our funding arrangement is in with Ottawa.

In the Northwest Territories, we are supposed to operate in a consensus, consultative way. The Finance Minister advised us two years ago that, according to the formula his department has, it was in the best interests of the Northwest Territories to raise the corporate tax rate from 12 percent to 14 percent. Logic and common sense would dictate that if you raised your tax rate, corporations would file outside the Northwest Territories where they would get a better rate. Some of us even tried to tell the Minister that, but the Minister basically said to committee that day that this had to happen and that they were not afraid of big corporations filing elsewhere; a risk that they were willing to take.

The problem is that corporations did file elsewhere, and the first indication of this was the $30 million restatement of corporate tax revenue that the Finance Minister advised Regular Members of in the fall, and hopefully the decision in this year's budget to reduce the rate from 14 percent to 11.5 percent will be an incentive for corporations to keep their tax files here in the Northwest Territories.

The problem I have is that the $30 million mistake, I mean reinstatement, hits the government hard. The Finance Minister only advises us that this is happening. As Regular Members, we have had no input or discussion regarding the reductions that were required. Cabinet and the Finance Minister send the various departments scurrying around trying to identify one percent reductions. As Regular Members, we only get the finished product. Our ability to give advice or be consulted is overlooked. It's funny how it works when government comes forward with supplementary appropriations, we go through them and approve the spending. However, when it comes to reducing government spending, we don't get a chance to debate or discuss these reductions and how they should take place. I would like to see the Regular Members consulted on government-wide reductions at the earliest opportunity, so that perhaps we can make suggestions to the government and to the Finance Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will have questions for the Finance Minister at the appropriate time.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the past few months, it's become quite clear that there is a lack of a comprehensive and consistent policy in place to deal with the provision of fire emergency and ambulance services to NWT communities and surrounding regions. This was very recently raised by myself in the context of liability and appropriate levels of funding to the volunteer ambulance and fire services in Hay River. I have been informed that an interdepartmental response on this issue is in the stage of being developed.

Hay River emergency services received a record number of calls during 2005, and I can only surmise that the anticipated economic activity and growth will place increased demands on the Hay River fire and ambulance services for the immediate future. A comprehensive plan would allow us to access resources, perhaps even from industry. But, Mr. Speaker, we need a plan. I have met with the chief and officers of the Hay River volunteer fire department. After discussing a number of current priorities and imminent future demands on services, we

agreed that Hay River needs to commission the development of a proposal regarding fire and ambulance services. We want to contract an independent consultant to undertake this work. We would work with the Town of Hay River, the Hay River Health Board, various government departments and agencies and, most importantly, the volunteers of the Hay River fire department to develop the terms of reference for such a proposal.

I am requesting that the GNWT contribute the cost of a consultant for the preparation of this comprehensive proposal. This proposal would indicate adequate capital, equipment, infrastructure, operations and maintenance funding for the Hay River fire department. I presume this amount would be in the neighbourhood of $10,000. I will have further questions on this matter for the appropriate Minister in question period today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty.

Maintenance Of The Highway No. 3 Access Road
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Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty North Slave

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to talk about Highway No. 3. That is my statement today. Improvements on Highway No. 3. We are thankful these improvements will be done soon because we always use this highway, which is important to us. This highway that is there, there is a lot of people who live along the highway. Sometimes some of these elders and people live along the highway, but since the highway was created, some of them are experiencing hardship because their cabins are a ways from the highway. I am talking about the access road. I am talking about the Department of Transportation. Although they maintain the road, they don't maintain the access road to their cabins. So the elders and people of the communities that live along the highway, they hunt on the road, they trap. They live a traditional lifestyle that they still hold onto. If they are transporting things to their cabin, it's hard for them to do that. Some elders are not able to walk a long way.

So the access road is a long way. Sometimes they have to go through a lot of snowdrifts on the road, which makes it hard for them. They do maintain the road, the highways. I will ask questions later regarding the access road. I am going to ask whether they can plough their access road once or twice a month. This is a unique situation in the NWT. So this is what we are asking the government. Later today, I will ask the Minister to see if he can prepare to do this to help these people. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Recognition Of Elders And Youth Of Nahendeh
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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, mahsi cho. (English not provided)

In the beautiful communities of the Nahendeh, many people, groups and organizations work diligently day after day, year after year, to make it a safe, friendly and exciting place to live and visit. Today I want to recognize such individuals. The first is a very respected elder, Mr. Edward Jumbo, from Trout Lake and the youth from Nahanni Butte. A guardian angel is watching over the lake is how our honourable Commissioner Tony Whitford described elder Mr. Edward Jumbo when he came and visited and presented Mr. Jumbo with a certificate from the lifesaving society. In the summer, 2004, Mr. Jumbo saved the lives of two tourists from Calgary who capsized their boat on Trout Lake. This wasn't the first time. Previously, he saved a man who accidentally fell out of his boat that was going in circles.

From Nahanni Butte, I wish to recognize Breagh Ingarfield, 14; Kayla Betsaka, 15; and Kyra Tanche, 14, who were in the news this week for opening an animal shelter in Nahanni Butte.

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As well, Mr. Speaker, the youth from Nahanni Butte were recognized by Mr. Wayne Rostad from On the Road Again and did take time to show them on his show last night. It just goes to show the exceptional abilities of our youth from Nahanni Butte.

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Some Hon. Members

Hear! Hear!

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Once again, I commend my constituency and indeed all NWT residents who take the time and effort to help others. It's interesting, Mr. Speaker, that these individuals are elders and youth who are going out of their way to provide service to people and animals.

Once again, I would just like to commend these individuals from the Nahendeh communities and all the other people in the North who are taking time out in their busy lives to improve the lives of others and animals as well. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Pokiak.

Enhancement Of Access Road In Tuktoyaktuk
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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

(English not provided)

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once again, I rise in this House to raise the issue of a 22-kilometre access road from Tuktoyaktuk to gravel source 177. Mr. Speaker, in the 1990s, one kilometre of the road from the source to Tuktoyaktuk was constructed using GNWT funds. As I have indicated in previous Member's statements, this access road is in alignment of Tuktoyaktuk's proposed new landfill, sewage lagoon and an airport. Perhaps more importantly, Mr. Speaker, the access road is also in alignment with the Tuktoyaktuk-Inuvik highway.

I would like to thank Premier Handley, Minister McLeod and out-going MP Blondin-Andrew for meeting with the Tuktoyaktuk Working Group in November. At that meeting, Mayor Jacobson briefed the governments on the need for gravel and why the access road is so important for the future infrastructure requirements of the community. The government was very receptive to the need for a year-round source of gravel and to starting the Tuk-Inuvik highway.

Mr. Speaker, at the last meeting of the federal/provincial/territorial Ministers of Transportation, it was agreed to support the construction and completion of an all-weather road up the Mackenzie, ending in Tuktoyaktuk. I understand that the Minister of Transportation has released two documents: Corridors for Canada II and Connecting Canada From Coast to Coast to Coast. The document Corridors for Canada II has identified a requirement of $15 million to build an access road to gravel source 177.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, this government must vigorously pursue the implementation of these two plans with the new Conservative government. The access road is essential to the continuing economic growth in the Beaufort-Delta and needs to be started as soon as possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Members' statements. The honourable from the Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I was inspired by our Members to start beginning to use our mother tongue, so I want to use part of my language here.

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(English not provided)

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In my language, Mr. Speaker, I want to just let the Members know that I said to thank the good Lord, thank the Creator for today, and that I will speak today on behalf of my people who put me here. I know life is difficult for all of us, and I will do my best to speak for you. I'll give you a voice in the House today. So that's what I said in my language.

I want to say that, Mr. Speaker, in my Member's statement that an elder has told me that if you know the land, you will know the people. I really didn't understand what the elder was saying: to know the land you would know the people. It was not until I started working in this job here as Members, and also scarce and previous Members, that you get to know the people. But when you go into your small communities and meet people from different regions, you get to know the land, you get to see the beauty of the Northwest Territories and the resources and the richness in the values and the way of life they live and the hardships they've come through. They always look at us for work and they call us...(inaudible)...big boss. So they always look to us to give them a better life, and I think that's the whole essence of people sending us here.

I want to say in the Sahtu it's a little different in that you're paying the high prices and that we know what is best for us, and I think this government is starting to work in that direction to give us that type of respect and dignity to elders to have a life that we deserve, like the rest of Canada and the Northwest Territories. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. McLeod.

Alcohol And Drug Abuse In The North
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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with today being Friday and the weekend, coming up, I want to speak on a subject that's been a problem with the people, especially the youth, across the Northwest Territories for years. That problem, Mr. Speaker, is alcohol and drugs.

We've been battling that problem for years and it goes way back. With the pipeline coming, there's going to be more money, more chances to get alcohol and drugs, and too many families across the North, Mr. Speaker, have buried loved ones because of alcohol and drugs. Start making some good choices; and this is a message to the youth out there that may be listening. Start making some good choices. If your parents are going out on the land, go with them.

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Some Hon. Members

Hear! Hear!

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

If they don't want to go out on the land, ask them to go. If they're the problem, take them on the land with you. It's just too big of a problem to keep ignoring. Kids nowadays have a whole world of opportunity in front of them, a whole world. If they want to go to school, they can be anything they want and this government will support them. I've seen that firsthand. As long as you don't apply 24 hours too late.

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Those out there that supply the alcohol and drugs to these young children, you've got to be ashamed of yourself. I'm real curious to know what the view from the bottom of the barrel is.

I was watching TV one time and I heard this elder, I think he was from Saskatchewan. He was singing a song. He had battled abuse his whole life, and alcohol. In his song he said he woke up one morning and he realized that his life had passed him by, and I think that's a sad statement. I don't want that to be the theme song for not only our youth, but some of the older people, too. They have to set good examples. So I urge all of you young children out there, and not so young people, to not let this be the story of your life. You won't regret it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Members' statements. The honourable Member from Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.