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Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In our ferry system in the Northwest Territories, we have many different sizes of ships. The Transport Canada requirement is based on tonnage. So out of all the ferries in our system, two of our systems do not have the requirement for mates. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Yakeleya.

Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, we are creating 23 positions again. It's going to add to our budget in terms of different regulations that we followed. The dollars keep going up and we keep saying to our people we have no money, we have no money to fix things. I don't know. That's enough of my frustrations. The Minister knows and the department knows. Has there ever been a discussion on a ferry service from Wrigley to the Sahtu and using that road back and forth once a week? Has anyone thought about that in the department about having a service like that in our region? Thank you.

Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Menicoche.

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Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think I will just clarify the 23 positions that were stated in my opening remarks. Not all 23 positions are for our ferry services. Out of the 23, 10 positions were associated with the repatriation of the Fort Simpson and Fort Providence ferries, as well as seven positions new this year are apprentices. Four positions are heavy equipment operators for the expansion of our winter services, one position was added to the Yellowknife Airport due to the increased size of the passenger terminal building and one position has been added to the Fort Simpson Airport. I hope that clarification is good enough for the Member, Mr. Chair.

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Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Just for clarification, my understanding is that there are six first mates and four ferry workers out of Fort Simpson out of 23, so that's 10 workers. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My last question is to the Minister in terms of the question I asked him. Has the department considered, in terms of future operations as a cost analysis or looking at an option of having ferry service from Wrigley to one of the Sahtu communities to bring vehicles? There are over 60 vehicles in Tulita right now. A lot of people would like to go down south and go out on holidays. It cuts down the cost on airfare for huge families. In the Sahtu, we have huge families there so it costs lots of money. They have a lot of vehicles. So has the department given that type of consideration in terms of what it would cost, or what they can do to provide that type of service to our region? Certainly they could have some kind of discussion. That's what I want to ask for the people there. Thank you.

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Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Menicoche.

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Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Member brings up a good question that probably many of his constituents have been asking, is how do we continue our journey when there is no road. The department has taken a look at such an issue, but the Department of Transportation is not in the passenger business. In fact, we looked at a hovercraft idea and it's just not a cost-effective way of doing business in that passenger service, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Chairman, I beg to differ on that issue here. The Sahtu does need a ferry, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman...(inaudible)...during the summer because of the way things are set up. I think the department needs to re-examine the need to have a ferry service in our region that can provide other benefits, cheaper groceries. Everything is being flown in. It's an isolated community. Nobody travels by road. We have to put our trucks on NTCL barges on their schedule, or Cooper Barging. That should be something that should be looked at. I would ask the Minister if he would give it some consideration and he may come back with the same answer next year.

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Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Menicoche.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Once again, the department has looked at it and it wasn't a cost-effective way of providing passenger services. But there are other options out there. I encourage the Member to look at them. There is barging, river taxis and air that equally accommodate transporting of freight up to his region. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Mr. Braden.

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Bill Braden

Bill Braden Great Slave

Mr. Chairman, thank you. I move we report progress.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Braden. There is a motion to report progress. The motion is in order. The motion is not debatable. I shall stand and report progress. No, all those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Thank you, committee. I will rise and report progress. I would like to thank the Minister and the witnesses for coming down today. We shall continue tomorrow. Sergeant-at-Arms, escort the witnesses out, please. Thank you.

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Item 16: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Report of Committee of the Whole. Mr. Pokiak.

Item 17: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 17: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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Calvin Pokiak

Calvin Pokiak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 21, Appropriation Act 2007-2008, and Committee Report 8-15(5) and would like to report progress. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Item 17: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Pokiak. Do we have a seconder? The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. McLeod. The motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Third reading of bills. Mr. Clerk, orders of the day.

Item 19: Orders Of The Day
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Deputy Clerk Of The House Mr. Schauerte

Mr. Speaker, there will be a meeting of the Governance and Economic Development committee at 7:30 tomorrow morning.

Orders of the day for Thursday, February 22, 2007, at 11:00 a.m.:

  1. Prayer
  2. Ministers' Statements
  3. Members' Statements
  4. Returns to Oral Questions
  5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
  6. Oral Questions
  7. Written Questions
  8. Returns to Written Questions
  9. Petitions
  10. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills
  11. Tabling of documents
  12. Notices of Motion
  13. Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills
  14. First Reading of Bills

- Bill 9, Write-off of Assets Act, 2006-2007

- Bill 22, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 3, 2006-2007

  1. Second Reading of Bills
  2. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

- Bill 18, An Act to Amend the Education Act

- Bill 19, An Act to Amend the Archives Act

- Bill 21, Appropriation Act, 2007-2008

- Committee Report 7-15(5), Standing Committee on

Accountability and Oversight Report on the

2007-2008 Pre-Budget Review Process

- Committee Report 8-15(5), Standing Committee on

Governance and Economic Development Report on the 2007-2008 Pre-Budget Review Process

- Committee Report 9-15(5), Standing Committee on

Social Programs Report on the 2007-2008

Pre-Budget Review Process

- Committee Report 10-15(5), Standing Committee

on Accountability and Oversight Report on the Review of the 2005-2006 Annual Report of the Languages Commissioner

  1. Report of Committee of the Whole
  2. Third Reading of Bills
  3. Orders of the Day

Item 19: Orders Of The Day
Item 19: Orders Of The Day

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The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until Thursday, February 22, 2007, at 11:00 a.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 18:01.