Debates of Oct. 24th, 2008
This is page numbers 1921 to 1954 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was honourable.
Topics
- Oral Questions
- Prayer
- Minister’s Statement 5-16(3) “over The Top” Marine Resupply
- Nunakput Constituency Issues
- NWT Midwifery Program
- Constituent Response To GNWT Revenue Options Paper
- Promoting The GNWT As An Employer Of Choice
- Elders Advisory Council For The Legislative Assembly
- Subsistence Hunting Of Bison
- Policing Services In Small Communities
- Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder Prevention Options
- Government Fiscal Prudence
- Impact Of Program Reductions On Nehendeh Communities
- GNWT Zero-Based Review
- Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
- Question 34-16(3) Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder Prevention Options
- Question 35-16(3) Policing Services In Tsiigehtchic
- Question 36-16(3) Enhancing Midwifery Services In Yellowknife
- Question 37-16(3) Impact Of Global Economic Downturn
- Question 38-16(3) Medical Travel Concerns In Fort Simpson
- Question 39-16(3) Morale Issues In The Government Workforce
- Question 40-16(3) Analysis Of Government Reduction Strategy
- Question 41-16(3) Traditional Harvesting Of Bison
- Question 42-16(3) Provision Of Income Support Programs
- Question 43-16(3) Impact Of Economic Climate On Tourism Industry
- Question 44-16(3) Involving Elders In The Education System
- Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)
- Question 1-16(3) Operation And Maintenance Of Highway No. 4
- Question 2-16(3) Community Fuel Resupply
- Committee Report 2-16(3) Report On Matters Referred To The Standing Committee
- Tabling of Documents
- Motion 5-16(3) Executive Council Accountability And Performance Process
- Motion 6-16(3) Ministerial Benefits Policy
- Motion 1-16(3) Appointment Of Directorof Human Rights (Motion Carried)
- Motion 2-16(3) Appointment Of Human Rights Adjudication Panel (Motion Carried)
- Motion 3-16(3) Appointment Of Deputy Director Of Human Rights (Motion Carried)
- Motion 4-16(3) Extended Adjournment Of The House To February 4, 2009 (Motion Carried)
- Motion 6-16(3) Ministerial Benefits Policy (Motion Carried)
- Question 45-16(3) Registration Policy Regarding Right-Hand Drive Vehicles
- Question 46-16(3) Assistance With Energy Efficiency Measures For Low Income Homeowners
- Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
- Question 48-16(3) Territorial Women’s Correctional Facility
- Question 49-16(3) Issues Related To The Beaufort Delta Health Authorities
- Question 50-16(3) Government Initiatives In Response To Current Economic Climate
- Bill 1 An Act To Amend The Historical Resources Act
- Bill 2 Settlement Of International Investment Disputes Act
- Bill 3 International Interest In Mobile Aircraft Equipment Act
- Bill 4 Public Library Act
- Bill 5 Professional Corporations Act
- Bill 6 Species At Risk (NWT) Act
- Bill 7 An Act To Amend The Student Financial Assistance Act
- Bill 1 An Act To Amend The Historical Resources Act
- Bill 2 Settlement Of International Investment Disputes Act
- Bill 3 International Interests In Mobile Aircraft Equipment Act
- Bill 4 Public Library Act
- Bill 5 Professional Corporations Act
- Bill 6 Species At Risk (NWT) Act
- Bill 7 An Act To Amend The Student Financial Assistance Act
- Orders of the Day
Question 46-16(3) Assistance With Energy Efficiency Measures For Low Income Homeowners
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe
I guess I’m more or less thinking about a specific group of people: homeowners in small communities who have low incomes. I don’t really need a specific program. I suppose the Housing Corporation has consolidated all of their programs into 14 programs, and each of those programs is supposed to be able to encompass the assistance towards all home ownership clients or all housing clients.
I’ll ask the Minister again if they could take a portion of CARE and concentrate first on home ownership clients who are paying their own operating expenses, before getting into the public housing end, where the operating cost is paid by the Housing Corporation or the government.
Question 46-16(3) Assistance With Energy Efficiency Measures For Low Income Homeowners
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Michael McLeod Deh Cho
We certainly can move forward on the recommendation the Member has provided.
We’re actually looking at more than just the CARE program. We’d like to see if we can bring things forward through the strategic initiative exercises that we have ongoing. We are considering that, and those things will be brought forward during the business plan. That will be packaged up, hopefully, with the CARE program and should help the homeowners across the Northwest Territories.
Question 46-16(3) Assistance With Energy Efficiency Measures For Low Income Homeowners
Oral Questions (Reversion)
Question 46-16(3) Assistance With Energy Efficiency Measures For Low Income Homeowners
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe
Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. I was wondering if the Minister could communicate that to us in writing as soon as possible.
Question 46-16(3) Assistance With Energy Efficiency Measures For Low Income Homeowners
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Michael McLeod Deh Cho
We had intended to come forward through the business planning process. However, if we can have all our initiatives firmed up so that we have a good understanding and some comfort that this is what we are going to do and if we have the dollars that are required, we would be glad to share that with the Members in writing.
Question 46-16(3) Assistance With Energy Efficiency Measures For Low Income Homeowners
Oral Questions (Reversion)
Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, over the last several months I’ve been working with some families in the Sahtu region. We develop policies at the Legislative Assembly. They are brought forward by the Cabinet, and we go through the policies and have them implemented in different programs. These policies are well written, they’re well thought out, but when they hit the community at the community level, there seems to be a disconnect there.
One of the things I want to talk about is foster care. I want to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services about when children are taken out of the communities as to the point of contact. In my community I have received several phone calls. There seems to be a disconnect with the department and the policies, and some of the different organizations are blaming each other.
I want to ask the Minister in terms of a similar program they have in Fort McPherson; I think it’s called Plan of Care. Is that something that the department is thinking about implementing in our region? Because that was supposed to happen in the Sahtu.
Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Ms. Lee.
Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
Oral Questions (Reversion)
Range Lake

Sandy Lee Minister of Health and Social Services
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Plan of Care is something that has been provided for with the recent amendments to the Child and Family Services Act and is one that we would like to see implemented in every community.
The department staff have been going to the regions to work with community leadership and the communities to help them set them up. We have not had as much response as we would like. We will continue to work with the communities to support them to get this set up, because it is a good avenue for the communities to participate and have some say on the children.
Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
It has been over how many years that the community has been saying this in terms of Plan of Care? My community of Colville Lake, over a number of years, has been saying this. The chief has called me; people in the community have called me. They’ve said, “Why don’t we get to work and get them to talk to us? They come in here and they scoop up the children and they bring them outside.”
I guess we’re waiting for the implementation of a good program. We’ve heard some good things from Fort McPherson. When are we going to see dollars that match these good words? It’s long overdue. Again I ask the Minister of Health and Social Services — the community is ready — to get this
Plan of Care implemented into our communities ASAP.
Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
Oral Questions (Reversion)
Range Lake

Sandy Lee Minister of Health and Social Services
As the Member is aware, this is relatively new legislation. The last Standing Committee on Social Programs worked to implement that.
The second thing is that all of the tools and the legislative framework are there. We just need to work harder to get the communities to come on board. There’s not a lot of money allocated for that. It’s a situation where community leadership and interested parties could get together, and we will give administrative support in that regard.
Lastly, what I want to say is that in some situations in our regions, families agree…. In Sahtu they have agreed to the arrangements that we have had for the children, even if they had to be moved out of communities, because in some cases they are with extended family in another community in the same region. These are very private and confidential family issues that we can’t really talk about here.
Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
I do respect the confidentiality of this issue. But when the communities, such as my community, have elders come and talk to me…. The chief has come and talked to me; the families have talked about it with me. They ask how come the community hasn’t been notified and it hasn’t been discussed.
Small, close knit communities certainly know what’s going on. The elders said to me, “Why isn’t that child being looked after by our community? We could have done it.”
Again, the SCRIPT program is in place. How come, when we have this program, it’s not supported by resources? I’ll ask the Minister: would she look carefully, in terms of the resources that should be with these programs? Because right now… [English translation not provided] …there’s no money.
Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
Oral Questions (Reversion)
Range Lake

Sandy Lee Minister of Health and Social Services
I think I have a good idea which community of the region the Member is referring to. I’ll commit to the Member that I will revisit to see where we are with that in terms of the conversation we’ve had with the community leadership. I will lend as much support as I can to make that Plan of Care Committee be established in that community.
Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker Paul Delorey
Thank you, Ms. Lee. Item 18, first reading of bills. The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.
Question 47-16(3) Support For Plan Of Care Committees In Communities
Oral Questions (Reversion)

David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just had a couple more oral questions, if I could. Are you still on item 7, Mr. Speaker? If not, I seek unanimous consent to return to item 7.
Unanimous consent granted.
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