This is page numbers 3981 - 4022 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was caribou.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to also thank all Members of the House for their thoughts, for their passion, for their analytical

thinking in terms of this issue. It’s a very big issue. It’s good that the people of the Northwest Territories hear the peoples’ government talk about a very important species in the North.

Mr. Speaker, the motion that I’ve moved in this House is to consult; consult with each other, consult with the aboriginal governments and show respect to the aboriginal peoples and to the aboriginal governments.

Mr. Speaker, the comments about this animal, you know, thinking back when we used to hunt, and we still hunt, the joy of the hunters when they go out and get a caribou, you know that feeling. Mr. Premier talked about that. It reminds me of when I went out with some elders and people, out hunting and you know this animal is going to feed a lot of good people, the animal is teaching you something, the traditional knowledge about this when they skin the animal, how you skin it, how you are supposed to be around it, there’s lots of values and beliefs. Most importantly, you know when you take this animal and you bring it back to your family, you can see the joy in the children’s faces and the family’s when you start cooking it, making meat out of it.

You know, we talk about this animal being here for thousands and thousands of years. We could not survive without them. They can survive without us. However, we have disturbed their way of life. The first thing the elders say to me: why did you put collars on them, that’s traumatic for the animal, they are very sensitive, they’re very holy and very clean. My elders said that when you put a caribou there and you put a collar on the caribou, it’s just like us having a grizzly bear come and attack us. It’s not good for them. There’s traditional knowledge like that that’s in our communities.

We have lived with these caribou for thousands and thousands of years. My people know about conservation measures. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be here. This animal would have been extinct a long time ago. We should give weight back to our people in the community. Tell us how to deal with this. Why is the caribou birthing but having calves two weeks late? Something’s telling us they’re having calves two weeks late, why is that? Like someone said, we should go to the elders and talk about that.

This motion talks about consulting, this motion talks about maybe sitting down with people. We do it right. We do it with the aboriginal governments, as the motion has said from the Dene Nation, passed by Edward Sangris, seconded by Grand Chief Sam Gargan in terms of lifting the ban and looking at how we sit down. Another motion about coming together. Mr. Speaker, we listen to our people. We have to have faith in our people and give weight to the traditional knowledge.

Mr. Speaker, we talk about future generations and Mr. Miltenberger is right; this issue here on water, I look forward to the day when we’re going to have a

good discussion on water, because all that poison is coming down the river from the Alberta tar sands to the Bennett Dam, coming down. Pretty soon there’s not going to be any for us. Maybe we’ll be extinct; we can’t drink the water. I know he has some strategies and I’ll certainly support him, but those things should be called emergency measures in Canada.

Mr. Speaker, I wanted to say there are lots out there. We grew up with the Dene laws. My friend Mr. Bromley talked about Yamoria. His law is signified in Bear Rock, the three beaver skins, two arrows in the Mackenzie River that complements the Bear River and the Mackenzie and the smoke in Tulita. His laws were there passed down to us. Just recently now we started to operate in the court of law, man-made laws to tell us how we should operate and how we should be with these animals. How come we don’t listen to our own laws? We do but it is not being taken very seriously. There are laws around handling animals, laws around for handling the meat, for cutting it, for hunting it. It seems like these laws are lost.

Mr. Speaker, now we talk about this motion. We talk about it because it is part of me and, as Mr. Lafferty said, we are connected to it. I can’t separate the spiritual part of it. That is who I am. Too bad caribou is in us. It is in my blood, in my heart and in my soul. I can’t take it. How can you do this to our people and say you can no longer hunt in this specific area? Yet they have thousands of trucks that go by there every year where the diamond mines are, the three big holes up there for diamonds. That is something that should have been done about destroying our land.

Mr. Speaker, I just want to close off saying that in Section 25 of the Charter of Rights, that certain rights that aboriginal people have that are protected. That is our shield of special provisions that we have protection. Rather than do the courts, the government says, let’s go to court and decide. My motion says that we sit down and consult each other and work it out. Let’s discuss this as leaders. This government says let’s call out the lawyers. Our people say let’s call out the hunters. We have rights too. Let’s get tied up into the court issue.

Mr. Speaker, this here, this consensus style of government is really taking a hit today, as I see it. At the end of the day, they state it is us against them. At the end of the day, the interim measure says you still are unable to hunt. This motion says let’s discuss them and work out our solutions here. In my view, meaningful consultation has been put aside. We talk about relationships, future generations, trust building. We really have to think about those words and how we use them, especially with aboriginal governments, aboriginal nations with this government here. Even thinking about in relationship to the culture of aboriginal

people, they have sacrificed enough for us to be here; tremendous amount of sacrifice.

If we look at just one instance such as the residential school, we would have been extinct. That never happened. So we talk about trust, it’s a big issue here. We are talking about a very important animal here in terms of this caribou. I think it’s a really good start as to where do we go from here, Mr. Speaker.

I want to thank Members here for really talking passionately about something that’s important to them. Wherever they’re from, whatever knowledge you have about this wonderful animal that has sustained us for thousands and thousands of years. That’s what we need in this Assembly here.

Mr. Speaker, for the record, I would like to ask for a recorded vote. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The Member has requested a recorded vote. All those in favour of the motion, please stand.

Recorded Vote

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

Mr. Yakeleya, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Bromley, Mr. Menicoche, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Hawkins, Mr. Jacobson, Ms. Bisaro.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

All those against the motion, please stand, All those abstaining from the motion, please stand.

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

Mr. Lafferty; Ms. Lee; Mr. Miltenberger; Mr. Roland; Mr. McLeod, Deh Cho; Mr. McLeod, Inuvik Twin Lakes.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Results of the recorded vote: all those in favour, nine; opposed, zero; abstaining, six. The motion is carried.

---Carried

The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to go to item 5 on the orders of the day.

---Unanimous consent granted.

The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to welcome one of my staff members, Mr. Garth Wallbridge, and also Mr. Ken Young to the gallery. I would also like to welcome and say to my wife how much I certainly love her and I hope to... It’s okay, Mr. Speaker, I would like to welcome my wife to the gallery.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The honourable Member for Monfwi, Mr. Lafferty.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. It gives me great pleasure to recognize Moise and Joyce Rabesca. They are in the gallery and also George Mackenzie. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, Mr. Robert McLeod.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to welcome to the gallery my new constituency assistant, Ms. Leah Ipana, Welcome.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod, The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to welcome Councillor Bobby Drygeese. I believe I missed him earlier today.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Again if we missed anyone in the gallery, welcome to the Chamber. I hope you are enjoying the proceedings. Item 19, first reading of bills, Item 20, second reading of bills. The honourable Minister responsible for the Workers’ Compensation and Safety Commission, Mr. Robert McLeod.

Bill 11: An Act To Amend The Workers’ Compensation Act
Second Reading of Bills

February 7th, 2010

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Monfwi, that Bill 11, An Act to Amend the Workers’ Compensation Act, be read for the second time.

Mr. Speaker, this bill amends the Workers’ Compensation Act to provide for a presumption in respect of certain diseases that occur more frequently among firefighters than any other workers or the general population. These diseases are slow in development and are disabling and often terminal. They appear to arise from exposure of conditions at the scene of fires. This bill identifies those diseases as listed diseases and the presumption that the disease arose out of the firefighter’s employment that occurred during the course of the employment is broadened for firefighters.

Regulation making authority is authorized to prescribe the minimum period of employment for the presumption to arise for each specific listed disease. It is also authorized in order to prescribe the minimum period before the disability that the fireman must have been a non-smoker for this presumption to arise.

A further amendment permits the Minister to appoint the chairperson of the Governance Council to a term not exceeding three years and to

reappoint that person as long as the reappointment does not result in a period of consecutive service exceeding six years. The length of service that the appointee previously had as director of the Governance Council does not limit the term of his or her appointment as chairperson. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Paul Delorey

Bill 11 has had second reading and is referred to a committee.

---Carried

Item 21, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Bill 2, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 2009-2010; Bill 4, An Act to Amend the Child and Family Services Act; Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Summary Conviction Procedures Act; Tabled Document 62-16(4), NWT Main Estimates, 2010-2011; and Minister’s Statement 47-16(4), Transfer of the Public Housing Rental Subsidy, with Mr. Krutko in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

I’ll call Committee of the Whole to order. We have Bills 2, 4, 7, Tabled Document 62-14(6) and Minister’s Statement 47-16(4). What is the wish of the committee? Mrs. Groenewegen.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe the wish of the committee is to at least get the Minister’s opening remarks and some general comments for Education, Culture and Employment. I think so far all we’ve done is the Department of Health, so we need to pick up the pace a bit, so I think we need to use this last 45 minutes of the day. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Does committee agree?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Does the Minister have any opening comments? Minister of Education, Mr. Lafferty.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to present the 2010-2011 Main Estimates for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment.

The government’s vision of northern people leading fulfilled lives and contributing to a strong and prosperous society is the driving force for where we are going as a department. The Department of Education, Culture and Employment strategic plan, Building on our Success, along with the government’s strategic plan and initiatives provide the direction for our 2010-2011 Main Estimates.

The proposed 2010-2011 Main Estimates for Education, Culture and Employment total $306.388

million, an increase of 2.4 percent over the previous year’s main estimates.

The main estimates incorporate funding for ongoing programs and strategic initiatives for each of the department’s key activities. Key department initiatives that fall within government strategic initiatives include the expansion of early childhood development programs and the Aboriginal Student Achievement Initiative under Building our Future, Department initiatives under Maximizing Opportunities are to increase support for the arts, provide additional supports for apprentices and enhance various Aurora College programs. Initiatives under Refocusing Government are to enhance support for Internet use by the education system, the Early Childhood Small Communities Initiative, and official languages implementation.

Finally, Mr. Chair, Education, Culture and Employment initiatives under Reducing the Cost of Living are to provide small community employment supports and to develop and action an NWT nutritious food plan with our partners.

The 2010-2011 Main Estimates include close to $9 million for Collective Agreement increases for the staff of the department, education authorities and Aurora College.

The approximate $9.5 million utilities and maintenance budget transfer from Education, Culture and Employment to Public Works and Services is also reflected in these estimates.

Education and Culture

Early Childhood Development

In 2009-2010, the department reviewed early childhood and family literacy training programs, In 2010-2011, $600,000 will go to further improve early childhood programs; specifically, the provision of early childhood training, child and family literacy programming and research into models that link early childhood and school programs, Another $600,000 will go to further expand supports to early childhood programs and to improve the quality of such programs in small and remote communities.

School System

In real terms, the 2010-2011Main Estimates provide for a 3.5 percent increase in school contributions. An apparent reduction in the 2010-2011 schools budget is, in fact, a reflection of the $6.7 million school portion of the utility and maintenance funding transfer from ECE to the Department of Public Works and Services.

At the school level, Mr. Chair, the Aboriginal Student Achievement, or ASA, initiative aims to improve aboriginal student achievement across the kindergarten to grade 12 education system, thereby helping to eliminate the achievement gap between aboriginal and non-aboriginal students, In 2010-2011, the $1.3 million will ensure implementation of

projects to promote attendance in 49 NWT schools, There will also be a mandatory orientation for all teachers on local culture, the NWT curriculum and more. The department will also launch a promotional campaign to raise parents’ awareness of habits that support student success such as regular, timely attendance at school.

In 2010-2011, $242,000 will go to the Western and Northern Curriculum Protocol, This is for cost-sharing with western Canadian jurisdictions, in the development and acquisition of grade 10, 11 and 12 mathematics resources in English and French. Another $106,000 will go toward purchasing additional equipment for the college and schools to better manage educational Internet usage and traffic, As part of this initiative, Education, Culture and Employment is working with the Technology Service Centre on a network needs analysis to better understand the traffic flows in order to determine the most cost-effective and efficient routing for all parties. In this way, our education system, including schools in small communities, will benefit from access to an efficient and reliable communications network. This should enable communities to improve access to distance learning, research and on-line studies for education.

In addition, the 2010-2011 Main Estimates include a $1.1 million increase to fund network usage, software licensing and security provided by the Technology Service Centre.

Culture and Heritage

In 2010-2011, an additional $200,000 will ensure the department can continue to support individuals, organizations and projects that showcase northern arts and cultures. The additional monies will be used to increase contributions to cultural organizations, heritage centres and new northern arts programs, With the latest proposed additional investment, this government will contribute $2.2 million in support of the arts and culture community in 2010-2011.

The 2010-2011 culture and heritage budget also reflects a $224,000 utility funding transfer to the Department of Public Work and Services.

Official Languages

In 2010-2011, $223,000 will support the launch of an annual Aboriginal Languages Summer Institute as a core activity for aboriginal language revitalization activities, The institute will provide professional development opportunities for language practitioners, Education, Culture and Employment will provide administrative support to the institute and to aboriginal language communities so language communities can be helped to effectively implement their language plans.

The department will also hold an aboriginal languages symposium in spring 2010, This symposium will offer an opportunity to bring together representatives from all northern aboriginal language communities, stakeholders and leaders to discuss how to expand the circle of responsibility for language revitalization. The goal of the symposium is to provide an opportunity for language communities to identify their priorities to revitalize, promote and support the languages.

Advanced Education and Careers

Adult and Post-secondary Education

In 2010-2011, $650,000 will be allocated to Aurora College for a three-part initiative to improve skills for living and working. First, a student wellness coordinator position is being funded by Thebacha Campus to promote and assist with choosing a healthy student lifestyle and achieving academic success, The coordinator will offer student counselling and other supports to enable a positive transition to residence life. Second, all three college campuses will offer new labour market and industrial training programs linked to employment and designed to address the requirements of industry and other partners. Third, the college will deliver a one-year Office Administration Certificate Program at Thebacha Campus to prepare graduates for employment in aboriginal, government and industry offices.

Another $100,000 will go to promote and facilitate access to the new NWT Secondary School Diploma for Adults. The diploma is based on an adult recognition model that combines academic course credits with prior learning assessment and recognition credits given for life experience, The department supports northern adults in completing the diploma application process and in documenting prior learning assessment and recognition credits.

A $427,000 increase in amortization is the result of $16.1 million in capital assets being put into service, including the Western Arctic Research Centre and community learning centres in Lutselk’e, Hay River Reserve and Tsiigehtchic.

The 2011-2012 adult and post-secondary education budget also reflects a $2.6 million utility and maintenance funding transfer to the Department of Public Works and Services.

Apprenticeship and Employment Development

In 2010-2011, Education, Culture and Employment is launching a new $350,000 initiative to provide opportunities for young people in small and remote communities to gain work experience and skills toward longer term employment. Programming supports will be targeted at youth aged 15 to 29 years. A wage subsidy program and associated promotional campaign will help employers offset the cost of hiring summer students and unemployed

out-of-school young people during the remainder of the year.

An additional $200,000 will be allocated to implement programs, supports and a communication strategy on available supports to encourage more northern residents, women and aboriginal people to pursue careers in the trades and occupations, In total, with this additional $200,000, $400,000 will be available in 2010-2011 in this area.

Income Security

The government will transfer the administration of public housing rental subsidies from Education, Culture and Employment to the NWT Housing Corporation for completion in this financial year, Our department will work closely with the Housing Corporation to develop a transition plan to ensure there is a smooth transition in responsibilities for administration of the program

In fiscal year 2010-2011, $160,000 will go to update the Public Housing Rental Subsidy Cost of Living Rent Reduction. This deduction offsets household cost of living by reducing he rent paid by public housing tenants, Education, Culture and Employment will work with the NWT Housing Corporation to keep tenants and local housing authorities fully informed of any cost of living rent reduction charges in a timely manner, The 2010-2011 Main Estimates also include $364,000 to allow local housing authorities to pay for the increased cost of employee salaries.

In fiscal 2010-2011, $400,000 will go to establish and coordinate an NWT Nutritious Food Steering Committee to include other government departments, non-government organizations and other stakeholders, The majority of this funding will be allocated to support food programs which will be delivered by existing agencies, including schools. Education, Culture and Employment will compile an inventory of existing nutrition activities, and work with the steering committee on an action plan to improve program coordination, to build on existing initiatives, and to develop and pilot new supports. By implementing pilot projects, the department will be able to gain information on how best to address the affordability of nutritious foods in the North. This information will constitute an invaluable element in developing the action plan with our partners.

Finally, the main estimates include an increase of $478,000 to support the approximately 1,400 post-secondary students who receive student financial assistance annually.

Concluding Comments

In conclusion, Mr. Chairman, the 2010-2011 Main Estimates for Education, Culture and Employment were developed to further both the goals of the Government of the Northwest Territories strategic plan and the objectives of our department strategic

plan, The 2010-2011 Main Estimates do the best job to meet the needs of most people given the resources at our disposal, We ask for your continued support as we move forward to the benefit of all Northerners.

I would be pleased to answer any questions that Members may have at this time. Mahsi, Mr. Chairman.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Thank you Mr. Minister. At this time I would like to ask the Minister if he will bring in any witnesses, Mr. Lafferty.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Yes Mr. Chairman.