Good afternoon, colleagues. Colleagues, before we begin, I wish to provide my ruling on the point of privilege raised in the House last Friday by Mr. Miltenberger. As Members know, the responsibility of the Speaker when a point of privilege has been raised is to determine whether, at first sight, a case of privilege has been established and that the matter has been raised at the first possible opportunity.

To start, I will quote Mr. Miltenberger’s point of privilege in its entirety from page 24 of the unedited Hansard for February 12, 2010, as it is relatively short: “Mr. Speaker, we have an understanding that we have confidential briefings with committee. We share information. It should be respected. The Member is clearly aware that there are processes and negotiations underway. This information was shared last night, yesterday morning and Tuesday night. My point of privilege is that by disclosing the specifics, the scenarios and all the various things that we are trying to talk about as we try to resolve this issue are bringing forward into a public forum from a confidential forum, information that was agreed to be kept confidential until we concluded our arrangements. Thank you.”

Colleagues, our rules do not exhaustively lay out the collective and individual privileges of the House. Rule 19(6), however, does provide some guidance. The rule states: “unless otherwise directed by the Assembly, it is not a breach of privilege for a Member of a standing or special committee to discuss with other Members of the Assembly, on a confidential basis, matters that are under consideration by a committee.” This rule would appear to imply that discussing confidential matters in any other way could constitute a breach of privilege.

Other parliamentary authorities support this conclusion. Citation 850 of Beauchesne’s Parliamentary Rules and Forms (6th Edition) states that “a committee, having the right to exclude strangers at any time, has the right to sit in private

and have its proceedings protected by privilege.” Citation 851 goes on to say that “when a committee chooses to meet in camera, all matters are confidential. Any departure from strict confidentiality should be by explicit committee decision which should deal with what matters should be published, in which forum and by whom.” Further, O’Brien and Bosc, on pages 1077-78 of House of Commons Practice and Procedure, Second Edition, states that “divulging any part of the proceedings of an in camera committee meeting has been ruled by the Speaker to constitute a prima facie matter of privilege.“

It is quite clear, Members, that when an unauthorized breach of committee confidentiality has been established, the House may deal with it as a matter of privilege. The question before me is whether a breach of confidentiality has been established. Making a determination on this is complicated by the fact that I do not, nor should I, attend committee meetings. It is also complicated by the fact that a press release was issued on this matter that made public at least some of the information that was shared with the committee in camera. Mr. Krutko was helpful in pointing this out in speaking to the point of privilege and I thank him for that.

It appears to me that Minister Michael McLeod, on his own initiative, scheduled an urgent briefing with standing committee to provide Members with the most up-to-date information on the status of the Deh Cho Bridge Project. He made it clear that sensitive negotiations were underway with both a new contractor and the project's lenders and that the information that was being provided to committee was confidential as a result of these ongoing negotiations. While the Minister did provide some of the details on the status of the bridge project in a media release issued last Friday, he also noted that negotiations between the parties continued. Although no one in debate made specific reference to this, it seems that the point of privilege was brought about by the mentioning of a specific piece of information that was not mentioned publicly in the media release. Again, I was not present at the briefing and have no knowledge of what information was or was not provided. I am, however, persuaded by the interventions of Minister Miltenberger, Minister Michael McLeod and MLA

Hawkins, each of whom I assume was in attendance at the full in-camera briefing. Other than Mr. Krutko’s above-mentioned intervention, no other Member who was present at the meeting provided a different account. On page 26 of the unedited Hansard, Mr. Hawkins, in speaking to the point of privilege, stated, “I think today is another example of where consensus government isn’t working, yet it’s supposed to be the principles of how we share and work together. I don’t think stating a ballpark number or an actual number does anything to our process but destroy it.”

Members have several times in this session made reference to the principles of consensus government that were adopted by Caucus last year. I'm glad to hear this as I thought for a while that all the hard and honest discussion that went into agreeing to these principles may have been lost. These principles clearly define what it means to "do" government in our consensus system. They define how we are unique. Principle number four talks about the “double-edged nature” of the dialogue we enjoy in our system between Cabinet and committees. Committees and Regular Members enjoy far more access to sensitive information and have greater opportunity to influence public policy in our system than in any other. This open and honest exchange of information is what makes our consensus system stand out. It is why Members consistently show very strong support for how we do business here, often in the face of public criticism and calls for fundamental change. As principle number four suggests, however, this sharing of information comes with great responsibility. If Members want to be kept up to speed on sensitive matters as they develop, they must agree to keep information confidential until it is properly ready for release. Failure to do so breaks the bargain that we have all agreed to.

Minister Michael McLeod, in my view, met the standard that Members have consistently called for when he came forward and shared highly sensitive information with committee in an open, timely, straightforward, yet confidential manner. This is what Members seem to consistently call for and it would appear that the Minister, to his credit, met the standard. In making reference to specific pieces of information from that briefing that were not intended for release to the public, the bargain was broken. I find that a prima facie matter of parliamentary privilege has been established in this instance and that the matter was raised at the earliest possible opportunity. My duty done, it is now up to the House to determine how to proceed.

Colleagues, before I proceed, I want to comment on the recent surge of points of privilege and order in the House. Whenever I am asked to rule on a matter, the appearance of winners and losers is created. This is not a game, however, and there is

no scorecard. Our rules are in place to help us debate the important matters before us in a respectful, dignified and efficient manner. The rules of the House are a means to this end. They are not an end unto themselves. When Members consistently use provocative and accusatory language and others respond by raising points of order or privilege, we have entered into a "race to the bottom" and lose sight of what we are really here to do. Consensus government is not intended to be tame or absent of heated debate. It should, however, take on a tone that reflects the importance and gravity of the issues before this House as opposed to the “showmanship” we often see in other Legislatures. If nothing else, the tone should be dignified, even in times of high emotion and fundamental disagreement. As we move forward from today, I urge you all to recommit yourselves to the principles of consensus government that we agreed to last year. If Members collectively tone down the rhetoric a notch or two, and thicken our skins a little, I am confident that we can get back to serving the people of the Northwest Territories in a manner that will reflect positively on this institution. The public expect to see us debate issues that make a difference in their daily lives. I don't believe parliamentary procedure is one of these issues. It rests with you. As your Speaker, I will, of course, continue to apply your rules in as fair and objective a manner as I am able. Thank you, Members.

Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Robert McLeod.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to announce the introduction of the Government of the Northwest Territories new youth website, proud2bnwt.ca.

The website offers a single window for NWT youth seeking information about GNWT programs and services to help them identify supportive programming options. The site showcases positive youth role models and increases two-way communications with program and service providers.

Mr. Speaker, proud2bnwt is designed by youth for youth. Through a series of focus groups with students from Aurora College and youth from across the NWT, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs was able to create a tool that provides information that youth feel is important. Youth were also instrumental in the “look and feel” of the site, including choosing the name of the website.

Final completion of the site was accomplished through a highly collaborative effort between GNWT departments to ensure the site receives timely, relevant updates that youth can rely on for information to lead to healthy choices and lifestyles.

For professionals working with youth, the site offers links to available funding, programming and information on events and training to ensure youth from all communities receive access to these opportunities.

Mr. Speaker, during the Vancouver 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games, our 40 youth ambassadors and 21 traditional games participants are providing updates on their unique experiences through proud2bnwt. I expect these reports to be nothing less that inspiring and I encourage all my colleagues to follow NWT youth on proud2bnwt during the games.

The GNWT’s investment in proud2bnwt is the latest way the GNWT is showing its commitment to one of our most valuable assets: our youth. Our youth are our future leaders. We need to provide them with the support and opportunities they need to reach their full potential. This website makes it easier for NWT youth to find the information and support they need to achieve their goals.

Mr. Speaker, I encourage all Members to take a moment to explore this exciting new information portal at

www.proud2bnwt.ca

. I would also like to

thank my colleagues in this Assembly for their continued support and look forward to building on our early success. Thank you, Mr .Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Human Resources, Mr. Bob McLeod.

Mr. Speaker, the Summer Student Employment Program is a crucial part of this government’s commitment towards the people of the North and the development of a skilled and knowledgeable northern workforce. The 2010 Summer Student Employment Program is underway and applications for summer student employment are being accepted.

I ask all Members, residents and parents that if they are aware of any students seeking summer employment, to encourage them to register as early as possible with the Department of Human Resources at

[email protected]

.

Mr. Speaker, each year the Government of the Northwest Territories hires hundreds of post-secondary students through the Summer Student Employment Program. This program assists northern students in acquiring work experience relevant to their field of study. It also provides students an opportunity to gain valuable work

experience and insight into government as they discover a career path, demonstrate their cutting edge skills and enhance their personal goals.

The government benefits from the ability to develop potential future employees and showcase the opportunities available through a career in the public service.

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Human Resources started the advertisement campaign in December 2009 and has been working with client departments to ensure success with this year’s program. Applications for summer student employment began being accepted on December 1, 2009.

This past summer, the Summer Student Employment Program was very successful; 347 students were hired through the program in 2009, compared to 282 in 2008, for an increase of over 23 percent from the previous summer. Almost 40 percent of those hired were northern aboriginal students.

Mr. Speaker, exit surveys indicate the vast majority of summer students found their experiences with the public service to be valuable and would recommend the Government of the Northwest Territories as an employer. Students are already submitting applications for next summer and the program appears to be as popular as ever.

In keeping with the department’s strategic goal of fixing the foundation and stabilizing service delivery, I have asked the Department of Human Resources to make a number of enhancements to the Summer Student Employment Program.

The department is taking an active role in guiding managers in the recruitment and hiring of summer students to ensure that established policies and procedures are followed consistently. Training sessions and presentations are taking place for managers across the Government of the Northwest Territories to ensure the hiring procedures are communicated to all departments, board and agencies.

Mr. Speaker, the Summer Student Employment Program is a significant factor in the development of a skilled northern workforce and part of the broader strategy of Maximizing Northern Employment. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to mention that the Department of Education, Culture and Employment has new funding recently announced in the budget for $350,000. This funding will provide wage subsidies to employers for youth aged 15 to 29 years in small communities to gain work experience to acquire the skills that lead to increased self-reliance. Summer employment provides opportunities to students from around the North to gain valuable work experience and to participate in matters of public importance.

Mr. Speaker, in closing, the Department of Human Resources will continue to work with the

departments, boards and agencies to find new and better ways of providing such opportunities to students. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’d like to bring the attention of the House to some of the cost overruns on previous projects in the Northwest Territories. One that comes to mind, Mr. Speaker, is the northern corrections facility which was started off with an estimated $28 million. Mr. Speaker, after major increases to the cost of the project, the final total came in at $49 million, which is double the cost of the original estimate.

Mr. Speaker, another project that comes to mind is the Inuvik Hospital which started off at $24 million and after all is said and done, the completed cost was $45.5 million. Again, double the cost.

Mr. Speaker, infrastructure in the North is a challenge we have to face regardless of the economic and the logistical challenges we face. As a government, back then Class D estimates was a lot of times the way we went. A lot of times we underestimated these projects, but I believe the government has now made a decision to make it mandatory to come forward with a Class C estimate. Again, hopefully that improves our prices. Mr. Speaker, in light of the discussion around the Deh Cho Bridge, I want to make it clear to the public that I do support the Deh Cho Bridge. For $15 million, we should get the project done.

Mr. Speaker, talking about bridges, another bridge that comes to mind is the Bear River Bridge. The original estimate was $25 million. That project went out to a request for proposals and came in at $45 million; again doubling in cost. Now the latest estimate is $60 million for the Bear River Bridge.

Mr. Speaker, realistically, bridges are a costly endeavour. Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to illustrate to the public that we have had these situations in the past and I don’t think the Deh Cho Bridge is going to be the last of them. We do have some major projects on the books. There’s the $100 million school in Inuvik, the school being built in Fort Good Hope and other big projects out there right now. Again, as government and being responsible for the public purse, we have to do a

better job of assessing, evaluating and getting the best return on the dollar we spend. With that, Mr. Speaker, I will be asking questions of the Minister responsible for infrastructure on this matter later. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker Today I would like to talk about our small and remote communities and their need to have access to professional health and wellness programming and staff.

During my most recent visit to Wrigley, they commended the fact that the return of nursing to their community will become a reality. They did also request to me that having access to a mental health worker and programming is also just as important to their community. They are pleased with the efforts of the Deh Cho Health and Social Services, yet desire to see their community be provided with the resources to work towards the establishment of their own programming and staffing in their own community.

I do recommend that we take this request seriously and work to ensure that available mental health programming and staff fulfill the needs of all our communities no matter how small.

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the NWT’s “let burn” fire management policy the NWT is a world-class source for valuable morel and other exotic mushrooms of the highest quality. Fresh morel mushrooms bought by southern suppliers last year for $40 in the NWT sold for upwards of $120 on international markets. Demand greatly exceeds supply, guaranteeing high price returns for limited investment. Last year aggressive harvesters from the South took up to half a million dollars in mushrooms, while local pickers made only about $15,000.

The GNWT does not yet have jurisdiction over the management of fungi, although steps are being taken by ENR to get that authority. The jurisdictional vacuum means no controls can be placed on harvesting or prevention measures to ensure local benefits and retain tax revenues.

Alaska, Yukon, B.C. and other jurisdictions support their harvesting industries through government support programs and promotion of their high

quality mushrooms. There are currently no GNWT harvesting support and promotion programs, inventory, training or consideration of harvesting opportunities in land use plans. Fire management information could be used to target harvesting in years following fires, but this isn’t being done.

A small core of dedicated NWT mushroom

harvesters have expert knowledge and field expertise that we could use as a basis for local, sustainable, small-scale industry well suited to northern lifestyles and skills. Small-scale local harvesters have worked for a decade to develop the industry but there has been little real progress, which requires some government participation.

ENR and ITI need to establish NWT legislative authority for the protection and management of wild mushrooms and then move to creating a permitting and licensing system that ensures resident NWT applicants receive preference in granting of picking permits.

The first step is to consult with NWT mushroom harvesters for the development of NWT wild mushroom harvesting support and market development programs, including promotion to external buyers from NWT suppliers.

These fungi are sustainable diamonds in the rough. When entrepreneurs come forward to build our economies, they deserve our help. Ministers, let’s get to it.

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Beaulieu.

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to take time to remember a friend and constituent who recently passed away: Albert Christian Jensen, who was more commonly known as “Tiny,” from Fort Resolution.

Tiny grew up in Swan River, Manitoba, and moved north to Hay River in 1967. He first worked at the mine in Pine Point and then with the government with airports and highways in Fort Simpson, Hay River and Fort Resolution.

Tiny is survived by his children: Ralph Beaulieu, Shelley Jensen, Heather Semenok, Cheryl Bugghins, Albert Jensen Jr. and Chris Jensen. Tiny was predeceased by his wife, Alice, when she was only 39 years old. Tiny married Alice and became a son to the late Henry Beaulieu and Mary Beaulieu. I know Mary and all of her children will miss Tiny deeply.

Like I said, Tiny was like a son to Henry and Mary and a brother to all of Alice’s brothers and sisters. Tiny will be sadly missed by everyone who knew him. Tiny was hard not to get to know. He stood six-

foot-seven and weighed well over 300 pounds and was easy to spot. Tiny was a very friendly man with a big heart and he loved his family deeply and he always had a great passion for the people of Fort Resolution.

I remember a story of Tiny Jensen when Minister Miltenberger and I were in Fort Resolution. Tiny walked in and Minister Miltenberger said to me, “What’s that guy’s name?” And I said, “Tiny.” And he said, “Of course.” Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Jacobson.

Mr. Speaker, today my Member’s statement is in regard to an elderly couple who received a power bill for the month January 19, 2010. The amount was $1,824.82. This power bill, Mr. Speaker, was not past due. They called NTPC Inuvik three weeks ago and asked them why their power bill was so high. They said they’d get back to them. Mr. Speaker, they never did. Their daughter physically took the bill and drove it with her to Inuvik, brought the same bill to the Inuvik office. They said they’d get back to her. And, Mr. Speaker, they never did.

This power bill was due February 9. Mr. Speaker, they didn’t want their power turned off, so they paid the bill. The couple who both receive senior pensions have not been doing anything out of the ordinary in their home to receive this power bill amount that’s unheard of.

Mr. Speaker, this couple is 82 years old and she’s 73. They own their own home. They take care of their ordinary bills accordingly. How much of this is their own power bill? This question arises in the communities more than the weather, Mr. Speaker. Steadily, people are talking about the power bill and the high cost. This question arises in the communities more often. I have questions many times. A timely response from a Crown corporation such as NTPC is something we should rightfully expect.

Mr. Speaker, it would not normally happen while the matter is being investigated. The couple did eventually receive a 48-hour disconnect notice and an administration fee notification of $45. Mr. Speaker, this is only one couple and I am sure there are others out there going with the basics of foods and utilities because of their power bills, Mr. Speaker. There are many responsible community people that take great pride in paying their own way, but surely there must be some way the Minister responsible for the Crown can expedite this matter. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

Does NTPC still award the management with bonuses? The perception at the community level of the Crown corporation is that it’s gouging the customers to pay senior management bonuses. Considering the poor economic opportunities, this seems to present a negative corporate image by the association of this government. I will have questions for the Premier at the appropriate time. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it’s no secret that the well-being of communities holds a special place in my heart. My time spent in local governance as a school trustee and city councillor laid the groundwork for that. So when considering GNWT activities I often see things through a municipal lens, and I did just that yesterday as I pondered the Environment and Natural Resources’ budget and listened to the government’s plans for climate change and greenhouse gas targets.

In order to meet an aggressive greenhouse gas target -- one that we don’t yet have, I must admit -- this government must engage NWT communities. Engage the communities in thinking about what they can do and engage them in taking action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. There are many ways to do that, Mr. Speaker, but one that I think will produce great dividends is to establish an NWT green fund similar to the Federation of Canadian Municipalities’ Municipal Green Fund.

The GNWT has earmarked about $60 million over a three-year period for energy projects. It is a simple matter to place a portion of those dollars into a special fund for green and energy wise projects, a special fund that NWT communities can access for their energy projects. The parameters of the fund could allow for low interest loans or for grants, the grant amount which could be matched by the communities.

Like the FCM Green Municipal Fund, funding could be provided for feasibility studies, field tests, development of municipal infrastructure, creating energy efficiencies in the community and so on. Under the New Deal established by MACA a few years ago, our communities have control over their own capital funds but often lack the accumulated dollars to take on high cost energy projects or to do the research on potential energy projects. I believe that our communities want to become more energy efficient, want to initiate green projects but need a financial push to get them started.

Mr. Speaker, this is not a request for new money. It is merely a reprofiling of money already identified by the government for energy projects. But it is also money that does not have specific identified targets. How the funds will be spent in future fiscal years is yet to be decided. So I feel we are perfectly positioned to establish an NWT green fund.

Our Territory and our residents deserve the benefits which would result in the establishment of such a fund. Our communities deserve the financial assistance that a green fund will provide, assistance that will allow them to get involved in large cost energy projects for the benefit of our…

Ms. Bisaro…

…question for the Minister of Finance at a later time. Thank you.