This is page numbers 4829 - 4862 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

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The House met at 1:37 p.m.

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

I will now provide rulings on the points of order raised in the House on May 12th . All of the points of order dealt

with unparliamentary language. In dealing with unparliamentary language, the Speaker takes into account the tone, manner and intention of the Member speaking; the person to whom the words were directed; the degree of provocation; and, most importantly, whether or not the remarks created disorder in the Chamber.

The point of order raised by Ms. Lee objected to the use of the word “doublespeak” by the Member for Great Slave, Mr. Abernethy. Ms. Lee felt that the use of this word suggested she had lied to the House. Mr. Abernethy gave a different definition, suggesting that the Minister had been ambiguous and evasive. I accept Mr. Abernethy’s word on this and find that there is no point of order.

The points of order raised by the Government House Leader referred to Mr. Ramsay’s Member’s statement of May 10th . Mr. Miltenberger argued that

the words “arrogant” and “ignorant” were abusive and insulting to Ms. Lee. The use of such language pushes the limits of decorum in our consensus system. However, they have been used in the recent past by other Members in this House without objection. I find that there is no point of order.

The second point of order raised by Mr. Miltenberger referred to Mr. Ramsay’s statement about dividing people along racial lines. Mr. Miltenberger stated that this imputed false or hidden motives to another Member. I can’t say for sure whether Mr. Ramsay meant that the government was intending to divide people on racial lines or that this was the result of the government’s proposed policy. Either way, I think the matter is serious enough that the remarks should be withdrawn. I find that Mr. Miltenberger has a point of order. I will ask Mr. Ramsay to withdraw these remarks and apologize to the House. Mr. Ramsay.

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do respect your ruling. I do withdraw those remarks. It was basically my interpretation of the government’s policy which led me to make the remarks that I made and I respect your ruling. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Thank you for that. With that, I think that resolves the matter. Again, colleagues, the debate we are having in this House is important and serious. There are lots of real issues to focus on and there is no need to use disruptive language and name calling to make the good points on both sides of the debate. I encourage all Members to tone down their language and treat one another with respect.

Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Human Resources, Mr. Bob McLeod.

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Minister of Human Resources

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In October 2009, I announced that the implementation of 20/20: A Brilliant North, NWT Public Service Strategic Plan was well underway. I made a commitment to provide an update to this House on the progress that was made during the first year.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to fulfill that commitment to the Members by tabling the formal action plan and results report later today. The report captures all the accomplishments that were achieved during the first year of our strategic plan. I would also like to share the highlights with Members now, Mr. Speaker.

In order to create a diverse and inclusive workplace, representative of the Northwest Territories’ population, the Department of Human Resources focused on several initiatives. The department created a Government of the Northwest Territories Advisory Committee on Employability and an Aboriginal Employees’ Advisory Committee.

An Associate Director/Superintendent Program aimed at increasing the number of aboriginal employees in senior management positions was

created and will be piloted this fiscal year. This pilot program provides individuals with hands-on public service senior management experience to complement their current education and work experience. If successful, this model will be used as a succession planning tool for employees.

The department developed an aboriginal culture and diversity awareness framework. An aboriginal recruitment and retention specialist position was created to focus on the retention and recruitment of aboriginal employees.

With the aim to improving the delivery of human resource services, the Department of Human Resources created a transition team which is focusing on streamlining human resource processes.

To further assist the government with recruiting, the department rolled out e-Recruit and created recruitment strategies for our hard to recruit occupations. The department is also in the process of developing a marketing strategy emphasizing the strengths, benefits and opportunities of the public service.

The department also launched a Managers’ Tool Kit and Labour Relations Training that was provided in every region in order to assist managers and supervisors in the management of the public service.

To strengthen our relations with the unions, quarterly meetings with both the Union of Northern Workers and the Northwest Territories Teachers’ Association were established. In addition, monthly case management meetings are held with the Union of Northern Workers to address the current backlog of grievances awaiting arbitration.

Initiatives that focus on the future through excellence and planning and management for the public service include the development and piloting of a departmental human resource planning framework, which have an affirmative action component. These plans will eventually become a part of the business planning process.

Mr. Speaker, the department is developing a competency-based performance management process to demonstrate a commitment to the learning and development of our public service employees.

Finally, the Department of Human Resources is also in the process of identifying common priorities so this government may partner with community and aboriginal governments to improve human resource management at all levels of government in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, I want to announce that updates regarding this strategic plan are only ever a click away. A 20/20: A Brilliant North website, that contains information on the plan, shows our

accomplishments to date and gives the opportunity for individuals to provide feedback, was launched and can be found on the Department of Human Resources website.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the Standing Committee on Government Operations for their ongoing support and guidance as we move forward implementing 20/20: A Brilliant North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Justice, Mr. Lafferty.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I would like to update the House on our work in family law reform. This supports our government’s priority of Building our Future by investing in effective and accessible programs that help families in transition move forward in a positive way.

As Members know, the Department of Justice now offers a mediation service and a course on parenting after separation and divorce. Both these courses are free to participants. They are designed to help parents resolve issues that arise because of a divorce or separation. They also help them continue to be effective parents in changing circumstances. The services are fast and accessible.

The expanded mediation program started in March 2009 and has been very successful. Five mediators offer their services throughout the Northwest Territories, in person or by teleconference. The mediators help people reach their own agreement and give them tools to help resolve future disputes on their own. It is faster than going to court and frees up resources and energy to spend time on more important things, like the kids. To date, Mr. Speaker, they have helped over 50 separating couples reach agreements without going to court. For a government investment of about $80,000, that’s a pretty good return, Mr. Speaker.

The Parenting after Separation and Divorce Program is a half-day course that helps parents make the transition to parenting their children in a new setting: parenting together but apart. It has been offered 15 times since June 2009. Effective April 1st , the Supreme Court of the Northwest

Territories made the program mandatory in most cases for Yellowknife residents who are bringing court applications for custody and access. This is a one-year pilot project undertaken by the Supreme Court. Upon completion of the course, parents receive a certificate which they must file with the court as proof of completion. This model has worked very well in other parts of the country. It helps to keep both parents’ focus on doing what’s

best for their kids. I’m looking forward to seeing the results of the pilot project.

Mr. Speaker, one of the challenges we faced with the Parenting after Separation and Divorce Program was how to deliver it to the people throughout the Northwest Territories. The demand outside of Yellowknife is quite small and the costs of delivery are high. Yet, we wanted to ensure that it was accessible to all residents. I am pleased to tell you that, in partnership with the Department of Health and Social Services, we are able to deliver this course simultaneously in Yellowknife and other communities using the Telehealth infrastructure.

We are fortunate to have a talented group of court workers who can help our residents through the legal system. Court workers are part of the community and they are well positioned to provide information about our legal system. That includes information about family law and child protection. We are now offering annual training sessions to our court workers. We want to make sure that they stay current and have the knowledge and confidence they need to help residents all over the NWT access justice services.

Mr. Speaker, we have accomplished a great deal, but we still have more to do. Ultimately, we want to create a justice system that is responsive and accessible to all Northerners. Some of our current projects are to investigate and assess a workable model for a children’s lawyer to give children a voice in proceedings where they need to be heard, an expanded alternative dispute resolution service to give people more choices.

Mr. Speaker, I will continue to update this Assembly on the progress of this work. We will look to your continued advice and support. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Robert C. McLeod.

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to provide my colleagues with an update on implementation activities related to the Public Service Capacity Initiative.

This initiative includes a series of programs, all intended to strengthen and support the capacity of local government administrators as well as the leadership and governance capacity of mayors, chiefs and councillors so that they can provide effective direction and support to their staff.

Municipal and Community Affairs is leading the work on this initiative in full partnership with the Department of Human Resources, as well as the Northwest Territories Association of Communities and the Local Government Administrators of the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, the largest program under the initiative is the Advancing Local Government Administrators Program, and I am pleased to announce that this program will be formally launched at the upcoming Northwest Territories Association of Communities Annual General Meeting being held May 13 to 16 in Hay River.

With the Advancing Local Government Administrators Program, community governments can apply for up to two years of funding to support either a trainee or mentor for their senior administrator position, depending on the current needs of the local government. Using funding available in 2009-2010, seven community governments are piloting this program already.

Retention and recruitment of the local government administrator position is critical to the long-term health and success of community governments and the Advancing Local Government Administrators Program is designed to ensure that community governments have ongoing support, tools and resources to assist with attracting and maintaining staff in this key position.

Mr. Speaker, another initiative that was started in 2009-2010 is the Good Governance training for elected leaders. This program was successfully piloted last year by the School of Community Government, and a total of 29 Good Governance workshops were hosted in 26 communities with 425 community government personnel in attendance. The Good Governance training is now offered to every newly elected council on an ongoing basis so that councillors can obtain a common knowledge base around roles and responsibilities, especially in relationship to their local government administrator. This year’s NWTAC AGM is featuring a full day of training and information related to Good Governance.

Professional development workshops are also being held to build the skills and expertise of administrators. The first professional development workshop was held in 2009 to coincide with the Local Government Administrators of the Northwest Territories Annual General Meeting. Future AGMS of LGANT will continue to feature a professional development component for local government administrators, all with the general theme of recruitment and retention challenges in local governments.

Mr. Speaker, a wide variety of promotional materials have been developed, including brochures and information on LGANT’s website; a video featuring council-administrator engagement is planned for 2010-2010. A marketing strategy has also been developed to assist with recruitment and retention initiatives at the local government level. A common look and feel is featured in all the promotional materials related to the Public Service Capacity Initiative and I encourage all my

colleagues to view the new website at

www.33strong.com

that is being launched at this

year’s NWTAC AGM. The promotional material is targeted primarily to Northerners, to encourage them to consider the interesting and challenging work opportunities available in local government in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, while there has been a significant amount of work done to date on the Public Service Capacity Initiative, there is still more work to do. I look forward to providing you with information on the Public Service Capacity Initiative as this program progress. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

The Deputy Premier, Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Floyd Roland will be absent from the House today and tomorrow to attend the Northern Premiers’ Conference in Whitehorse. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With the expansion of the Nahanni National Park Reserve, I have been advised that there are 18 employment opportunities opening up in the Parks Canada office in Fort Simpson in the near future. I am very happy about this news as it is the opportunity for 15 people in Fort Simpson and three seasonal positions in Nahanni Butte.

We are so very fortunate to have this national park and world heritage site so close by. With its caves, hot springs, wetlands, its grizzly bears, Dall sheep and so much more wildlife, it is truly spectacular. The Nahanni River races over Virginia Falls, the height of which eclipses Niagara Falls, and it rushes through canyons about 1,000 metres deep.

These new positions will be of great significance to the region. Six of the positions have been posted already and I understand that the competitions are closed. I encourage young people and all residents to keep a lookout for job advertisements and apply for suitable positions as they are advertised. I think that there will be a number of jobs that Fort Simpson residents will be qualified for.

This is a wonderful opportunity for young people and adults to consider a career in the national park system. There will be guidance given for those who

want to seek employment if they are not yet qualified. The parks office in Fort Simpson is there for the long run, Mr. Speaker, and do want to encourage long-term employment for our local people and local residents.

There are also business opportunities, with $5 million of capital expenditures in the Nahendeh region. In addition, they are negotiating impact benefits which will add to the current opportunities in the region. Overall, I do want to say that with an expanded Nahanni National Park Reserve, we can benefit in our communities and in the Northwest Territories. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to talk today about the ever becoming more famous Supplementary Health Benefits Policy of this government. Mr. Speaker, we have to start at the beginning and say, why change the policy? Some are saying because it was a decision of a previous government the policy was changed. Now we are just on the implementation end of that so we have to proceed with it. That is what they told us about the Deh Cho Bridge too. It wasn’t a very good reason.

Mr. Speaker, I think we need to look at this very carefully and very critically. What this debate on the supplementary health benefits has done inadvertently and unfortunately is made it look like in order to help people in a certain income bracket who are not beneficiaries of other health insurance that in order to help them, we needed to reduce the services to another group of people and we all know that, being the seniors of the Northwest Territories. This is the picture that emerges, that we want to take away from this group to give to this group. Mr. Speaker, that is pitting people against each other and that is not a good premise for how we are doing this.

Unfortunately, that is just the tip of what this policy would actually do. If this policy, if implemented the way it is laid out right now, proceeds as it is, in fact, there are going to be people who will opt out of third-party insurance in order to participate in this government. I know the government means well by expanding it. By expanding it, though, they are giving people the opportunity of not participating in employer health insurance programs and different things where they do pay premiums and to get this from the government at no cost. What is the cost? Who has to add up the cost? Who has quantified what the cost of that is? We can’t afford mistakes.

As long as we get a great idea, we see a mosquito on the window and we take a sledge hammer to kill it. I am sorry. We have seen this happen with board reform. Oh, we are going from 70 to seven. What it does is it takes what is in it, the essence of some very good ideas, and just blows it out of the water because we try to capture and bundle too many things within one policy.

Mr. Speaker, I know I don’t have a lot more time left, but I just want to caution the government, I beg the government, I beseech them to please look at all the ramifications of this, not to look at this in a superficial manner, please, because we cannot afford to spend millions of dollars unnecessarily, not with the kinds of challenges and demands that we have on our health care system today. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Beaulieu.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I spoke in the House about housing programs to seniors in Tu Nedhe and the Minister mentioned that the corporation was doing early delivery for 2011-12 in August and September of 2010, which is good for 2010-11.

Today I would like to speak about the delivery materials and labour for housing projects this summer, not 2011-12. Mr. Speaker, it is imperative that the NWT Housing Corporation address serious housing concerns in Tu Nedhe this summer. The corporation must get materials on the barge into Lutselk’e this summer or there will be no other options available to those people.

Mr. Speaker, if the barge is missed, the people will have to wait another full year, at least another full year before any of their houses get repaired. Of all the houses that need repairs, I am hearing that they cannot obtain much needed support from the Housing Corporation because of the various different situations. Mr. Speaker, such situations range from not having a band council resolution in place, or that the individual clients have credit issues, or that they have outstanding rent, or outstanding land related arrears. Mr. Speaker, all of these issues can be overcome. If the corporation waits for all the t’s to be crossed and all the i’s to be dotted, residents of Tu Nedhe could miss another construction season and all of that repair money that was approved by the House will go somewhere else.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT Housing Corporation will spend $200,000 to $250,000 to build a house when they don’t actually have a social housing client in place. Often these units are used outside of the social housing portfolio. This means that the social

housing dollars earmarked for that community will go to people that are not in core need. This means instead of decreasing core need, it will continue to increase. Because of this, Mr. Speaker, the Minister must ensure that social housing dollars are spent to address social housing core need issues in the communities. If that does not happen, the people in the community will continue to live in inadequate housing.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Mr. Beaulieu, your time for Member’s statement is up.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my Member’s statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Sometimes “inadequate” does not accurately describe the condition of some of these homes I speak of. The majority of these homes are owned by seniors and they are close to being in a dilapidated state. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to speak about the direction the Minister of Health and Cabinet has taken on the supplementary health benefits.

I’d like to begin by saying that the hypocrisy in this building sometimes is really something to behold. On Tuesday, May 10th , I stated the Health Minister

was being arrogant and ignorant in her handling of the supplementary health issue.

Hansard is a very valuable tool, Mr. Speaker. Back on October 21st , 2005, Ms. Lee herself can be

quoted as saying, “I urge this government to start acting like a responsive and responsible government, not an arrogant dictatorship of majority.” Mr. Speaker, back on October 26

th, 2001,

Ms. Lee was called on a point of order referring to a special committee report as a palace coup. In her speaking to the point of order, and I quote, “I have discussed this with my constituents and the words actually come from my constituents.”

Mr. Speaker, is this not how the system works? We listen to our constituents and the public. We are the voice of the people of the Northwest Territories, Mr. Speaker, and I’d like to remind Minister Lee of that. Her handling of the proposed changes to supplementary health benefits has, and continues to be, abysmal and embarrassing. Certainly the government must be listening to the valid and genuine concerns put forth by many of the Regular Members on this issue. Why is it that no one on that side of the House seems to be hearing us? Why is

it that Cabinet is intent on silencing the public outcry on this issue?

Mr. Speaker, it will be a very sad day in the history of our Territory should Minister Lee and the government proceed with the changes to supplementary health benefits. My belief is they don’t know how devastating these changes will be in some of our residents’ lives, especially during the greatest time of need. If escalating health care costs are as big of a concern as we all know they are, why on earth would we put forth changes that will undoubtedly cost us more as people continue to dump third-party coverage? The plan is asinine and needs to be reworked.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, as if the plan itself is not bad enough, the administration and subsequent costs to government will certainly be more than our government could bear. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Jacobson.

Jackie Jacobson

Jackie Jacobson Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Recently, on my last visit to Ulukhaktok, various leaders, elders and representatives expressed concerns on medical travel that is being coordinated. Some of the leadership said the medical travel patients are constantly being bumped off Aklak Air from Ulukhaktok to Inuvik and vice versa. There are only two seats reserved on Aklak’s flights into the community, therefore, patients travelling to see a specialist or a doctor most likely get bumped.

This has been an ongoing issue since the route was changed from Yellowknife to Inuvik. There are countless patients that go through the situation day after day. For the patients travelling to see a specialist, when they are bumped they have to wait the extra time to see a specialist that goes into Inuvik, which could be months, Mr. Speaker.

For the last three or four years the Hamlet of Ulukhaktok has brought this up to the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation, asking for bigger planes. Some of the elders refuse to fly on Aklak because the planes are so small and they do not have a washroom onboard the aircraft. People in Ulukhaktok would like to see the route changed, if they can, from Inuvik to Yellowknife. It’s the same price and there are more specialists in Yellowknife here.

When you live in the small, isolated communities such as Ulukhaktok, air travel is a lifeline. All year round there is no road or community for assistance. These people are dealing with serious medical conditions and when they can’t make the appointments, they have to wait for the next round

of visits. There are only, like I said, two seats saved for medical travel for patients. Even the constituents who receive medical treatment in Edmonton, the medical administrator still sends them through Inuvik. That would mean longer travel time and a lot longer to get home to family, bumped off due to Aklak’s small aircraft. In addition, the assistance that they receive in the Inuvik Regional Hospital can be administered out of Yellowknife, Mr. Speaker.

Flying through Yellowknife straight to Ulukhaktok would save all parties physically and financially, while avoiding long, unaffordable wait times in the transient centre, especially over a weekend.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted