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The House met at 1:32 p.m.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, Members. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Transportation, Mr. Ramsay.

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Transportation

Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to congratulate the Department of Transportation for receiving the Silver Award for Innovation from the Institute of Public Administrators of Canada.

Every year the institute recognizes world-class innovators for improving public service in Canada. This year the Department of Transportation is nationally recognized as one of these innovators. This prestigious award acknowledges the hard work of many individuals and provides an opportunity to share the influence of their good ideas with the rest of Canada.

Mr. Speaker, the award recognizes the department’s innovative Aboriginal engagement process for planning major infrastructure projects. The Department of Transportation, led by Mr. Jim Stevens, has been using an inclusive partnership approach for planning the Mackenzie Valley all-weather highway from Wrigley to Tuktoyaktuk.

We established partnerships with Aboriginal land claim organizations to lead, develop and manage the project description reports for sections of the Mackenzie Valley Highway within their regions. Taking the lead role allowed regional and community leaders and residents to select their own project management structure, contracting and payment processes, and consultation methodology and schedule.

The four completed project description reports are being combined into one document that will form the basis of a submission to the Mackenzie Valley Land and Water Board. Completing the work now allows us to begin considering the next stage of activities required to support a future environmental assessment. We know there will be geotechnical investigations, surveys, consultations, and studies into fisheries, vegetation, wildlife, archaeology, terrain, permafrost and hydrology. Aboriginal land claim organizations will continue to be involved in these activities.

Mr. Speaker, the inclusive engagement strategy between the Department of Transportation and Aboriginal governments is essential for building a strong and sustainable future for our territory. This approach reflects the GNWT’s commitment to building strong working relationships with Aboriginal governments as stated in Respect, Recognition, Responsibility, our strategy for engaging with Aboriginal governments. It ensures Aboriginal views and values are incorporated when planning major infrastructure.

It has led to lasting relationships built on mutual trust and respect, and also resulted in a common voice and demonstration of support for the Mackenzie Valley all-weather highway, a significant step toward achieving the goals and priorities established by the 17

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department will continue to cultivate these successful partnerships to advance an aspiration that Northerners have held for decades: a highway connecting the rest of Canada to the Arctic coast.

Mr. Speaker, let us congratulate staff and our Aboriginal partners for their accomplishments and the wealth of possibilities resulting from hard work and cooperation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Minister of Justice, Mr. Abernethy.

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Minister of Justice

Mr. Speaker, we all have a role to play in stopping abuse from taking place in our homes. Unfortunately, family violence continues to be a significant concern.

We know violence in the homes of NWT residents is having long-term physical, social and economic

impacts on family members, communities, and the territory as a whole.

Our government is finishing the planning for the new

Narrative Therapy: Abuse Intervention

Program. This is a three-year pilot project directed towards NWT men who use violence in their family relationships. Men may choose, or be mandated by the court to participate in this program. We have contracted with a community-based organization, the Healing Drum Society, to provide delivery of these services. They will be working closely with the Department of Justice.

As Members know, much work has gone into developing this program. A committee of social departments, NGOs, RCMP and the Coalition Against Family Violence, has created a program unique to the North. There has been significant investment from the GNWT, the federal government and NGO partners.

By balancing best practices and traditional First Nations, Inuit and Metis knowledge, this 24-week program will give men opportunities to change their behaviour. It honours men’s expertise, perspectives, and their right to make choices. It builds on a safe, respectful and collaborative environment for them to talk openly about their abusive behaviour. Participants will use their experiences as a basis for developing respectful relationships.

By helping men take responsibility for their abusive behaviour and build on their own strengths and qualities, men will be taught to heal from and repair the effects of abuse.

The safety and dignity of partners and children are paramount.

This is important work, and we have taken the time we needed to develop the best program providing the greatest opportunities for success.

Next steps include establishing an advisory committee to provide support and guidance. Program staff will be trained and have an orientation. An evaluation framework will be developed. We will be sure potential clients, service providers and the public know about the program and how to access it.

Again, good groundwork takes time. We expect the first clients will enter this program in February. Ultimately, we will see people who choose to use respectful behaviour towards their children, their intimate partners and their communities.

I know that each of us here in this Assembly support efforts by all involved as we continue to work together for effective solutions towards eradicating violence in our homes. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

Mr. Speaker, in October 2010, the Department of the Executive piloted a new initiative called the Single Window Service Centre. Centres, which were established in eight rural and remote communities across the Northwest Territories including Nahanni Butte, Fort Providence, Lutselk’e, Whatì, Fort Good Hope, Colville Lake, Aklavik and Ulukhaktok. Each centre is staffed by a locally hired government service officer. The centres help community residents access and navigate both Government of the Northwest Territories and federal programs. They also support Government of the Northwest Territories staff in the regional centres by providing information about departmental programs and services to residents.

A unique aspect of the initiative is the support that is provided to community elders. Every Thursday…

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Just one second, Mr. Premier. We are just having some technical difficulties for our interpreters.

I don’t know if that is the fire alarm or not.

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But there’s a door right there and the other main door is right there. We’ll wait for a few minutes.

Okay, Mr. Premier. It’s working now.

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Every Thursday the government service officers pay home visits to elders, providing assistance by interpreting, opening and explaining mail, and generally ensuring elders and others have better access to our programs and services as well as many services offered by our federal partners. Additionally, community residents can come into the Single Window Service Centre for assistance with filling out forms and applications on-line, through the use of the public computer. This electronic access has shortened response times and expedited the business of government at the community level.

Mr. Speaker, in the 20 months of operation, our government service officers provided assistance to clients more than 6,000 times. Given the success of the eight pilot centres, additional single window service centres and government service officer positions were established in Sachs Harbour, Tsiigehtchic, Tulita, Gameti and Fort Liard in 2012-13. Two more are planned for 2013-14.

The expansion of the Single Window Service Centre initiative also addresses the 17

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Assembly’s priority to increase employment opportunities where they are needed most. The Department of the Executive is using existing funds to create these new government service officer

positions in rural and remote communities. All currently staffed single window service centres employ Aboriginal women from their home community.

Furthermore, over the next year we will investigate the potential for expanding the scope of services government service officers provide and the communities in which single window service centres are based.

The Single Window Service Centre initiative has been a resounding success. They help residents gain much improved access to our government, especially in those more remote communities where Government of the Northwest Territories staff may not be located. The government service officers help residents access all of the benefits to which they are entitled; in that sense, Mr. Speaker, they are on the front lines of our efforts to reduce poverty.

Faster response times, the ability to provide services in the local language and having a familiar face in the office have all added to the success of the single window service centres.

I would like to thank all of the Members of this House for their strong support for the establishment and expansion of the centres. This is a great example of what we can achieve when we work together to make a real difference for people in our smaller communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I really didn’t know what to say today, because yesterday I had a phone call from my sister. When they say life throws curve balls at you, it certainly does, not knowing what to expect.

My sister called me yesterday and said that a good friend of mine, Mr. Anthony Grandjambe of Fort Good Hope, passed away. I couldn’t believe it.

It’s been a year since Anthony and I worked together and started my campaign in Fort Good Hope. Anthony just lost his wife, Janet, to cancer.

I spent some time with him in Fort Good Hope. We developed, over the 40 years of my knowing Anthony, a very close relationship. We talked about life. Anthony talked about how he missed his wife so badly that it was very hard for him to live life without her. She was his main inspiration. We talked about this on a man-to-man basis. He talked about how he went to her grave every day and

visited her. He had good days, and days when he really didn’t know what to do.

So we developed this relationship that we could talk to each other. He talked about some of the things he wanted to do. I thought I wanted to say something about that because the friends we get, we have in our life from time to time, they are worth the recognition at this state. As a Member of the Legislative Assembly, we have a job to do and sometimes we don’t show our emotions, our feelings, because we’re so busy or keep ourselves in check.

I wanted to say this because he came from a good family. My prayers go out for him and to his children and grandchildren. I had a lot of feelings of sadness and a lot of feelings of love for this man because he helped me. I wanted to say that. I wanted to say how much we appreciate him in our region. I want to say that we extend our prayers for him and his family. We’re going to Fort Good Hope this weekend.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Colleagues, before we move on today, I’d like to welcome back into the House a former Member, Speaker and Minister, Mr. David Krutko.

I’d also like to welcome my mayor from Ulukhaktok, Ms. Janet Kanayok. Welcome to the House.

The honourable Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we have been working on the infrastructure budget for 2013-2014, I’d like to voice my concerns over what is not in the budget or in any projections.

Construction of the new health centre in Hay River has begun. This facility will not have 10 long-term beds that are in the current facility. This is unbelievable. I understand the department’s justification that long-term beds are not effective in a hospital setting for both the patient and costs. My biggest problem is that the department has known for some time now that this facility will not have long-term beds. However, no matching infrastructure money has been placed in the budget to provide this essential service to Hay River. What does the department expect the community of Hay River to do without these long-term beds?

Hay River is the second largest community in the Northwest Territories. Does this government expect their seniors to travel out of the community? This is unbelievable.

The Department of Health, in public discussions and communications, has indicated that they have to assess the current demands in the North. Have

we not been building similar facilities throughout the North? There is no plan? The department only needs to pick up a paper or look at any statistical information and see that the population is getting older, and Hay River is no different.

This is hard to accept that we do not have a plan. How long will it take the department to come up to speed on this issue? Hay River residents are getting nervous as the government seems to be dragging their feet on fixing this mistake. How could we have not placed the budget line item to replace a service as essential as long-term beds in the community of Hay River?

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. The honourable Member for Frame Lake, Ms. Bisaro.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A couple of weeks ago I had an opportunity to attend an exciting announcement made by Discovery Air in conjunction with Spanish-based Airbus Military. Discovery Air and Airbus Military will be presenting a proposal to the Government of Canada for fixed-wing search and rescue, SAR, north of 60. There are currently only three SAR bases in Canada: Victoria, Trenton and Halifax. All three are a long way from most of northern Canada.

The need for a SAR base located in the North has long been recognized by Northerners. Our vast, uninhabited expanses and extreme climates puts anyone lost in the Arctic in great danger. The proposal from Discovery Air and Airbus to replace Canada’s aging fixed-wing search and rescue aircraft will locate a SAR base in Yellowknife, in the North. No longer will we have to wait up to five hours for a plane to arrive in the North to begin the search. With a northern SAR base, the search can begin immediately.

The benefits of this proposal are many: reduced search time; an economic boost to the North; solidification of Canada’s claim to northern sovereignty, and that’s a phrase we hear very often from Ottawa.

Since 1998, increasing numbers of aircraft are using the polar route to travel from North America to Asia and vice versa. Data from United Airlines for 2009 indicates that over 8,500 flights used one of the four polar routes. Assuming 10 percent growth per year and 350 passengers per flight, in 2012 some 11,000 passengers’ lives are at risk as they fly over our heads every day. Are they prepared to survive in our climate? Are they wearing boots and parkas? We all know that’s not the case. Instead, they’re dressed in shorts and sneakers for the climate they left in Los Angeles, for instance, or for

the climate they’re expecting at the end of their journey.

If any one of these flights experiences difficulties and crashes in the North, every extra minute spent finding them will put lives in danger. A base in the North will save lives: airline passengers’ lives and our own northern residents’ lives. We spend a lot of time on the land and it’s not uncommon for travellers to run into trouble and become stranded. SAR close at hand will mean our people are found faster, fewer lives at risk, fewer lives lost.

I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

The North needs a search and rescue base located in the North. This Discovery Air/Airbus Military joint bid is good for Yellowknifers, good for Northerners, and good for all Canadians. All NWT politicians and leaders should support the Discovery Air/Airbus Military proposal. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. The Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

New School For Trout Lake
Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. We are dealing with the capital budgets for various departments in this session. I have looked high and low and I am sad to say there is not a single dollar set aside to start work on a new school in Trout Lake.

The school in Trout Lake is located in one room at the community hall and it is too small. When the original log school was damaged by fire, the government said temporary placement in this community hall. For years I have urged the government to begin planning for a new school. I have to say, I now understand how a teacher must feel when the students are not listening.

The last information I had from the Education Minister was that work could not begin before 2018. It is too long a wait and this government should be embarrassed. A whole generation of students and teachers will be stuck in an inadequate school.

I have supported the construction of new schools all over this territory. Inuvik has a $100 million super-school, and I am happy for that community. We have expanded schools in Yellowknife, renovated schools in Hay River, put new schools in Tulita and Good Hope. I could go on, but you get the point. The very smallest communities seem to be left out.

I have said, time and time again, that everyone across our great territory should have equal access to education and equal opportunity to learn. The reality is access to education is not equal across the Northwest Territories. I know families in various communities who feel they have to send their

children away to larger centres to get proper education.

I know that this government says it’s always short of money, especially, it seems, for a school in Trout Lake, and I am sick of hearing it. It is unfair to the people of Trout Lake, especially for the students and teachers. This government can find the money and should find the money. Thank you.

New School For Trout Lake
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The Member for Range Lake, Mr. Dolynny.

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Not less than a week ago I had an exchange of oral questions with the Minister of Finance on taxpayers’ cost to finance Nunavut debt. Historically, since post-division, the Government of Nunavut continued to use many of our services, primarily health care services, for their citizens. This is an understandable and acceptable practice. In return for the service, we would invoice, like any other client or contractor, for our costs of doing business.

As indicated in last week’s question exchange, I was alarmed to find out, during the spring Committee of the Whole, that this number owed by taxpayers of Nunavut to be somewhat alarming. In fact, after almost two rounds of questioning with the Minister, he finally agreed to share that there was about $2.93 million owed back to us in June but that number was whittled down to $2.39 million. Of course, he and I both know these numbers, yet I am not at liberty to share these numbers publicly until such time as it is released. We call it the rule of disclosure.

Further to this, the results of the issue of aged receivables over 180 days, or six months, owed to this government. You see, aged receivables compound interest at an incredible rate if they are not looked after. This is no different than if one was to leave a continued balance on your credit card month after month. Again, he and I both know the number but, unfortunately, this number was not shared to you, the taxpayer. In the end, the Minister indicated that there was only about $2,000 owing that was older than 90 days, and yet he also indicated that there was a time that this number was well over $8 million.

As a taxpayer, what does this all mean? For one thing, we should be called the Bank of NWT and not the Government of the Northwest Territories. However, unlike most banks that charge an interest rate for their line of credit, it appears that the GNWT does not. In fact, if we were to use the public sector accounting of audit standards on just the rolling average of the $2.39 million, which is a lower number recorded by the Finance Minister, we being

the people of NWT are financing about $200,000 per year in straight line interest and carrying costs for the Nunavut government. Moreover, if you were to factor that we had some aged receivable issues, as the Minister did indicate, you can even add more to this bill.

When the Member for Mackenzie Delta is asking for one more nurse, or the Member for Hay River North is asking for some more long-term care beds, or when the Member for Nahendeh goes on his hunger strike for his beloved Highway No. 7, this approximate $200,000 hidden cost could be used for our people’s needs and not financing debt. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I will follow up on my remarks yesterday about Weledeh small businesses with a specific example of Weledeh enterprise and success.

From his home workshop in Detah, David Giroux is the owner, inventor, manufacturer, marketer and driving force behind Arctic Fire Stoves. The stoves are constructed of recycled fuel drums and salvaged steel, an environmentally sound repurposing of existing materials. This is the Cadillac of barrel stoves, and experienced people say they have never seen anything like them. It is the only model that can be used for heating as an oven, a barbeque and a smoker. The stoves are produced in a number of sizes for use not only at homes and businesses but at bush and exploration camps.

One hundred fifty stoves have been marketed thus far, all made and sold in the Northwest Territories. Product development is proceeding. Mr. Giroux is going for Canadian Standards Association certification, which would make the stoves an approved unit for insurance purposes for use in private and public buildings. He is working with CSA on installation of a membrane, and damper and door seals. Once model improvements are completed, a prototype must be supplied for testing, which takes five to six months. That is at a cost of about $10,000.

Mr. Giroux will be looking for departmental support to attend the technical conference. I will naturally be backing that application. With CSA certification, David will be looking for wider markets here, across Canada and perhaps even internationally.

Here is a man who has looked around his home community, spotted an opportunity and ran with it. Who hasn’t seen him on the Detah ice road selling

the stoves from the back of his truck or at winter events displaying the various models? David Giroux is going forward. I congratulate him and look forward to opportunities to help with his business success. Mahsi.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Moses.

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Over the past few months, there has been a rash of criminal activity in the community of Inuvik. However, today on the news you all heard of the great efforts that the local RCMP attachment and its members are making.

I would like to congratulate the Inuvik RCMP Detachment for their continued support and ongoing work with the community, and their commitment and tireless efforts to make Inuvik a healthy and safe community. I personally worked with the RCMP on the Not Us campaign and also at the Inuvik Interagency Committee where their presence, involvement and engagement help set the tone to find positive solutions for community concerns. They’ve also done very successful road checks, both in the community and on the highway.

On another note, Inuvik policing does not necessarily mean RCMP presence. There is also the community aspect. On October 7

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residents of the community of Inuvik held a meeting to address the increase of these criminal activities. As a result, one topic that was discussed was the formation of Citizens on Patrol. I believe that this group has activated itself and is working closely with the RCMP to do daily and, more importantly, weekend patrols.

I’d like to also give recognition to this group of volunteers who have devoted their time, and committed to making Inuvik streets safe, and protecting the livelihood of Inuvik’s residents. It takes a special type of person to commit their time to patrol the streets of Inuvik in an effort to make them safe, especially after a full day of work or a busy family life.

I would like to encourage all residents of Inuvik to continue to speak up on the crimes that they may witness, and help the Citizens on Patrol and RCMP. In fact, I’d like to encourage all residents of the Northwest Territories to stand up against crime and use your voices to put an end to criminal activities that are happening in your community.

I’d like to ask Members of the Legislative Assembly to join me in recognizing the hard work and dedication of the Inuvik RCMP Detachment and

Inuvik’s Citizens on Patrol group in making Inuvik a safer place to live. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.