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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank my colleagues for their comments. I know the Cabinet is listening. I know people in our communities are listening, and I want to let my colleagues know that this issue has been a long-standing issue in our small communities, no different than the larger centres. They have the same issues in the regional centres and in the small communities.

I think if each Member stands up who has been affected in one way or another by an alcohol or drug issue, we’d all be standing up. We know family and friends, and this motion talks about believing in people. What do we believe in? When we became MLAs we believed in the people. Everybody that came and voted for us and talked to us, some were right down in the dumps, as the saying goes, and we talked to them. They honestly said they want to get sober or get away from drugs. That’s a powerful dependency they have. They told us. The sober people walked up to us and talked to us and said this is what a good life they had either through a 12-step program, through prayers, church groups, they talked about a good, sober life.

Then we’ve got the young people who learn the ways that it’s not okay, it’s not okay to walk around the communities sober, because everybody else is drinking and going out to party and they act tough and they joke about it.

I believe in my people. I believe that they can get well if we meet them halfway. This is about asking for money. It costs a lot of money to go on the land.

Mrs. Groenewegen is right; our land is out there, but somehow we have created a dependency in our people to say government help me with rope, because we’ve got so far away from that independent thinking, that strong thinking in our mind, that we depend on government for food, housing, everything, to clothe us and we’re running out of money. The Finance Minister keeps telling us where are we going to find the money. We’ve become so dependent in our minds that we want government to sober us up. We can’t even do that ourselves. That’s how far we’ve come. That is not right.

We have to do it now. We’ve got to do it right now as we speak, so people will hear us in the communities. It’s a very powerful addiction, alcohol or drugs. It’s very powerful. The people cry to be sober, but they cry in silence.

Why do it? Because our people depend on us as we depend on them, and there’s a lot of pain associated with it. I didn’t realize the amount of pain that alcohol brings until my stepfather got killed by alcohol – I was 19 years old – on January 1, 1980. I stood at the bed of the hospital health centre with my brothers and sisters and we asked my mom, can we take him home. Mom said he’s not coming home with us. The amount of pain that caused us, my brothers and sisters, we stood there, tears in our eyes and we didn’t say anything because men don’t cry. The amount of pain that we felt all those years.

We all have personal stories like this, and it’s cunning and baffling because we don’t know why. We have to do something, as leaders, for our children. I remember my grandmother telling me that. This has to stop. I said no, Granny, I like my drink, I’m not going to stop. Elders tell us and now we’re telling our children. I never would have thought that I could be in leadership like this if my Granny didn’t believe in me. Thank you for not stopping believing in me. I didn’t realize that. There’s hope in all of us, in our people. That’s what leaders do when we bring our issues to the table here in this Assembly. This is our government, and I think the Minister is doing something that’s going to cost us $300,000, and I hope the end result is priceless from what you’re going to get from the community.

We’re in a position to lead today, right now at this very moment. We’re leaders. People elected us to lead, to give them a better life, to inspire enough. To say nothing is a disservice to our people. We have to say some of the things that sometimes are not very popular, are not very comfortable, but we need to say these things. We’re all from the Northwest Territories and that’s what leaders do. We hear from Cabinet we have to make decisions. They might not be the ones you guys like over here, but we have to make them. This side of the table puts a motion here, you might not like it, but we have to do it. We’ve got 11 Members here.

So again, I hope this motion starts a new way of life, a new way of thinking, a new way to give hope to our people, a new way to deal with issues. This motion talks about giving life and respecting people in a way that they know what’s best for them. This motion talks about investing in people. Certainly, we have found money, like I said, for other infrastructure projects. We certainly can find money for this project. Put it into the education. Put it into the schools. Put it into healing. Put it into justice. We’ve got to do other things because of the sanity

of this alcohol that is brought to our community. It’s going to drive us to endless more amounts of high crime statistics and other things that we’re not very good at dealing with.

I would like a recorded vote. I thank my colleagues for speaking on this. I thank Mr. Hawkins for seconding the motion. I thank also the Minister for speaking to this motion.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. The Member is seeking a recorded vote. All those in favour, please rise.

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

Mr. Yakeleya, Mr. Bouchard, Mr. Blake, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Dolynny, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Hawkins, Mr. Menicoche, Mr. Moses, Mr. Bromley.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you. All those opposed, please rise. All those abstaining, please rise.

Recorded Vote
Motions

November 4th, 2012

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Abernethy, Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. McLeod – Yellowknife South, Mr. Lafferty, Mr. Ramsay, Mr. McLeod – Inuvik Twin Lakes.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you. All those in favour, 11; all those abstaining, zero; abstentions, seven. The motion is carried.

---Carried

Item 18, first reading of bills. Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, that Bill 17, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2012-2013, be read for the first time.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Bill 17, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2012-2013, has had first reading.

---Carried

Item 19, second reading of bills. Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable

Member for Tu Nedhe, that Bill 17, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2012-2013, be read for the second time.

This bill makes supplementary appropriations for operations expenditures for the Government of the Northwest Territories for the 2012-2013 fiscal year.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Bill 17, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2012-2013, has had second reading.

---Carried

Mr. Bouchard.

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Kam Lake, that Bill 15, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 3, be read for the second time.

Bill 15 amends the Human Rights Act to establish that the director of human rights is an employee in the public service. This act also amends the act to modify the terms of employment of the members of the adjudication panel established under the act and to authorize the Speaker, on the recommendation of the Board of Management, to designate the chairperson and deputy chairperson of the adjudication panel. The adjudication panel members may designate an acting chairperson for the adjudication panel in certain circumstances.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Bill 15, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 3, has had second reading.

---Carried

Mr. Bouchard.

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to waive Rule 39(2) and have Bill 15, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 3, moved into Committee of the Whole today.

---Unanimous consent granted

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Bill 12, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 2; Bill 13, An Act to Repeal the Credit Union Act; and Bill 15, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 3, with Ms. Bisaro in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Alright. I will call Committee of the Whole to order. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Menicoche.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. The committee wishes to consider Bill 12, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 2; Bill 13, An Act

to Repeal the Credit Union Act; and Bill 15, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 3.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. Is committee agreed?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, committee. We will start with Bill 12, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 2. The Minister responsible for the bill, the Minister of Justice, would you please introduce the bill?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am pleased to appear before committee today to review Bill 12, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 2. We are here to propose a change to this act to ensure that NWT residents are not affected by a change in terminology.

The current Human Rights Act establishes various prohibited grounds of discrimination including a conviction for which a pardon has been granted. The proposed changes have become necessary as a consequence of the Government of Canada’s Bill C-10, the Safe Streets and Communities Act, which received assent on March 13, 2012. That omnibus bill amended the Criminal Records Act to set up a new system which replaces the use of pardons, in most instances, with record suspensions. The Canadian Human Rights Act has already been amended by the federal legislation to include a prohibition of discrimination based on a conviction for which a record suspension has been ordered. This proposed amendment to our territorial Human Rights Act will also prohibit discrimination based on an operative record suspension in addition to the existing prohibition pertaining to a pardoned conviction.

The process for obtaining a record suspension is nearly identical to the previous process for obtaining pardon. This proposed amendment will serve to ensure that NWT residents who received a record suspension will be protected against discrimination to the same extent as those who have received a pardon.

I am pleased to respond to any questions that committee may have.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. I will go to the chair of the Standing Committee on Social Programs, Mr. Moses, for any comments on the bill.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Standing Committee on Social Programs conducted its public review of Bill 12, An Act to Amend the Human Rights Act, No. 2, on November 1, 2012. The committee thanks the Minister and his staff for presenting the bill. The amendments were made necessary by the federal Safe Streets and Communities Act which set up a system of records suspensions to replace pardons in most instances.

The Canadian Human Rights Act has already been amended to prohibit discrimination based on a conviction for which a records suspension is in place. Bill 12 makes a similar change to our territorial Human Rights Act.

Following the committee’s review, a motion was carried to report Bill 12 to the Assembly as ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole.

This concludes the committee’s opening comments on the bill. Individual Members may have additional questions or comments as we proceed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Moses. I’d like to ask the Minister responsible for the bill if he has any witnesses he wishes to bring into the House.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

I do, Madam Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Is committee agreed?