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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In his Member’s statement the Member did mention the modest amount of money that he said he pulled from the report that the Liquor Commission spend on education. I think the number he mentioned was $38,000. I don’t have that report in front of me; however, I take very clearly the Member’s point. If there is an interest from the Social Programs committee and the Legislature as we look at developing the business case and the business plans for the upcoming cycle, then we’ll start as soon as we conclude this particular budget cycle. We would be definitely very willing and committed to having those discussions. Thank you.

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I want to also say that that is the wish of the Members on this side, if the Minister will work with us. If I’m hearing correctly, is the Minister then willing to put that into the business plans for the upcoming session?

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

The critical issue is the need to do a better job in terms of educating people about responsible drinking or not drinking at all and pregnant mothers not drinking. We need to have that discussion about the best way forward. He has pulled a number out of the air, a safe 10 percent is what his comment was. I am saying let’s agree that that’s a discussion that needs to be had and let’s see what we collectively can come up with for the next business planning process about the best way forward, and not forgetting the fact that we want to continue to stay coordinated and work very closely with Education and Health and Social Services and all the work they do, as well, about education with responsible drinking and alcohol abuse. Thank you.

Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories Liquor Commission had sales of $46.3 million in 2011-12. When you go through the numbers, the revenue earned on that $46.3 million was about $24 million, so the number I pulled out of here is 10 percent of that. So that’s about $2.4 million I’m asking for. Would the Minister look at those types of numbers when it comes down to the business plans?

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I would point out, as I have numerous times in the past, that, in fact, what we spend on dealing with problems related to alcohol abuse dwarfs what little money we make selling it, in terms of health, social services, education, justice and housing.

Yes, we will have the discussion in a forum where we can, in fact, have a discussion in the House. I do acknowledge that we are prepared to do that and we’ll talk specifically about the Member’s suggestion, and what other suggestions may be there if it’s done with a broader committee and as well as the folks from the Liquor Commission and Finance. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment. He talked in his ministerial statement today about the Growing Forward 2 Agreement providing $1.2 million per year for the NWT agricultural sector over the next five years. This is an increase in funding of almost $500,000 per year.

There has been a proposal before ITI with respect to the Northern Farm Training Institute, which is scheduled to start up in Hay River in the month of April. I would like to ask the Minister if any plans have been finalized for the magnitude or the scope of funding that this organization requires to get going out of this funding. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Mr. Ramsay.

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would be anticipated that that would come out of this funding. Discussions are underway with the proponents in Hay River and the department. I could provide the Member, and I know other Members have had questions about where this is at. We can provide an update to Members at the earliest opportunity. Thank you.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, we seem to have tens of millions of dollars as a government to put into big projects. This is a small project. Pardon the pun, but this is a grassroots project, which is very hinged on the proponents who have a passion for sustainable work, and jobs, and endeavours that are completely doable and renewable within our territory. I appreciate the ADM taking the time to meet with the proponents from Hay River recently. I appreciate the Minister’s support, but I don’t want this to get weighed down in the bureaucracy, and I’d like the Minister’s support that he will steer this proposal through the bureaucratic red tape and ensure this project gets off the ground. Thank you.

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you. I have met with the proponents in the past and I am very supportive of the project moving forward, and I’ve given the proponents every indication that I will continue to support their efforts. We have to continue putting together a package, a plan on how this money is going to be spent. I certainly would anticipate that the project in Hay River is going to bring people in from the communities and train them in Hay River so they can go back to their home communities and train others is going to be

an integral part of this new Growing Forward 2 funding. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Moses to the Honourable David Ramsay, Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment, on February 18, 2013, regarding GNWT contracts awarded to southern contractors.

For the 2011-2012 fiscal year, 2,223 GNWT contracts were awarded. Of this, 433 contracts were awarded to southern contractors.

For the 2012-2013 fiscal year to December 31, 2012, 292 contracts out of a total of 1,514 contracts were awarded to southern contractors.

Of the 136 change orders that were done to adjust the contracts, there were 103 that were specific to the 2011-2012 year. The remaining 33 contract change orders were for multi-year contracts from prior years that were still in effect in 2011-2012.

Up to December 31, 2012, of the current fiscal year, 76 change orders were issued, of which 39 change orders are specific to the current year’s contracts. The remaining 37 contract change orders were for multi-year contracts from prior years but still in effect in 2012-2013.

The total cost for 103 change orders amounted to a credit to the GNWT of $101,205. The remaining 33 contract change orders, for multi-year contracts from prior years but still in effect in 2011-2012, the value of change orders totaled $23.9 million.

The 39 change orders specific to 2012-2013 amounted to $318,613. For the remaining 37 contract change orders, for multi-year contracts from prior years but still in effect in 2012-2013, the value of change orders totaled $15.5 million.

The majority of the change orders to multi-year contracts from previous years relate to the Deh Cho Bridge Project and various software contracts the GNWT has in place.

The departments of Public Works and Services, Transportation, Environment and Natural Resources, Municipal and Community Affairs, and Industry, Tourism and Investment are responsible for the vast majority of the GNWT’s contracting activity.

There were no supplementary appropriations made in 2011-2012 that relate to contract change orders,

nor have any been brought forward to date for this fiscal year and, as such, there are no extra costs to report.

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Hawkins on February 18, 2013, to the Honourable David Ramsay, Minister of Transportation, regarding Deh Cho Bridge deficiencies.

The Deh Cho Bridge has undergone a number of technical inspections within the quality control and quality assurance process. A full independent inspection took place November 6 and 7, 2012, by a team of engineers and experts to ensure the structure was ready for public traffic. A further inspection of the cables (December 15, 2012), the expansion joints (January 15, 2013) and the bearings/lock-up devices (February 6, 2013) all form part of the ongoing inspection regime by the GNWT to ensure specifications and contractual obligations are met. There will continue to be ongoing and detailed inspections this year as the contractor completes works. The tables are summaries of the inspection reports and technical reviews.

Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table the document Deh Cho Bridge Deficiencies which is divided into four tables to include:

1. Table 1 details the items which require further

work by Ruskin under the contract to complete and were deemed incomplete by the inspection team.

2. Table 2 details the items which must be

completed by Ruskin under the current contract that have not yet been started.

3. Table 3 details the items under the Atcon

contract that must be completed by the Department of Transportation (DOT) under the terms applicable to the security funds.

4. Table 4 details the new works introduced by the

DOT that are required to complete the project.

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Moses on February 18, 2013, to the Honourable Tom Beaulieu, Minister of Health and Social Services, regarding alcohol and drug-related emergency hospital and health centre visits.

Health centre information is currently collected by the health and social services authorities. At this time there are no means to consolidate and report on this information on a territory-wide basis. The Department of Health and Social Services is examining options for a territory-wide system that

would permit for efficient and effective reporting of service delivery at health centres.

In 2011-12, there were 16,222 visits to the Stanton Territorial Health Authority (STHA) emergency department from NWT residents and 1,790 from other residents. In the current fiscal year up to December 31, 2012, there have been 11,736 visits to the STHA emergency department from NWT residents, and 1,232 from other residents.

In cases where the physician has indicated that the patient was under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs, it is important to note that it is often not the reason the patient arrived in the emergency department. It should also be noted that there could be instances where the same patient has presented several times over the reporting period of the same or differing diagnosis.

The number of emergency room visits at Stanton Territorial Hospital in 2011-12 where alcohol and/or drugs were a factor is as follows:

• Of the 16,222 NWT resident visits, 1,276 had

alcohol and/or drugs as a factor, and 28 also had an indication of a mental health disorder with self-harming or suicidal indications. Of these 1,276 patients,

o 833 were discharged home;

o 90 left against medical advice;

o 339 were transferred to an acute care

inpatient institution (this includes other acute, sub-acute, acute psychiatric, acute rehabilitation, acute cancer centre, acute pediatric centre, et cetera); and

o 14 were transferred to another institution

(this includes ambulatory care, palliative care facility/hospice, addiction treatment centre, jails, infants and children discharged/detailed by social services).

• Of the 1,790 non-NWT resident visits, 80 had

alcohol and/or drugs as a factor, and three also had an indication of a mental health disorder with self-harming or suicidal indications. Of these 80 patients,

o 60 were discharged home;

o Two left against medical advice; and

o 18 were transferred to an acute care

inpatient institution (this includes other acute, sub-acute, acute psychiatric, acute rehabilitation, acute cancer centre, acute pediatric centre, et cetera.)

The number of emergency room visits at Stanton Territorial Hospital in 2012-13 up to December 31, 2012, where alcohol and/or drugs were a factor is as follows:

• Of the 11,736 NWT resident visits, 606 had

alcohol and/or drugs as a factor, and three also

had an indication of a mental health disorder with self-harming or suicidal indications. Of these 606 patients,

o 445 were discharged home;

o 26 left against medical advice;

o 130 were transferred to an acute care

inpatient institution (includes other acute, sub-acute, acute psychiatric, acute rehabilitation, acute cancer centre, acute pediatric centre, et cetera); and

o Five were transferred to another institution

(includes ambulatory care, palliative care facility/hospice, addiction treatment centre, jails, infants and children discharged/detained by social services).

• Of the 1,232 non-NWT resident visits, 34 had

alcohol and/or drugs as a factor, and none had an indication of a mental health disorder with self-harming or suicidal indications. Of these 34 patients,

o 20 were discharged home;

o One left against medical advice; and

o 13 were transferred to an acute care

inpatient institution (this includes other acute, sub-acute, acute psychiatric, acute rehabilitation, acute cancer centre, acute pediatric centre, et cetera).

When a patient is discharged from the emergency department it should be noted that they are not usually discharged directly to a facility-based alcohol or drug treatment program. This is usually because they often require some kind of stabilization in the hospital before they can go into treatment. Once stabilized, they work with their primary care physician or health authority to access a facility-based alcohol and drug treatment program. Furthermore, due to the current coding structure, there is no way to break these statistics down further without a manual chart audit. To undertake a review of this nature, written consent for every patient would be required. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Return To Written Question 12-17(4): Community Fuel Prices
Returns to Written Questions

March 10th, 2013

Tim Mercer Clerk Of The House

I have a return to written question asked by Mr. Menicoche on February 19, 2013, to the Honourable Glen Abernethy, Minister of Public Works and Services, regarding community fuel prices.

1. The total cost of fuel delivery to NWT

communities served by the petroleum products division of Public Works and Services was $32,624,492 for fiscal year 2011-12.

2. The total cost of fuel delivery in Nahendeh

communities served by the petroleum products

division of Public Works and Services was $5,505,329 for fiscal year 2011-12.

3. The Department of Public Works and Services

does not offer fuel subsidies on the products that the petroleum products division provides to communities.

The petroleum products division program is a revolving fund and not funded through appropriations as are most other government programs. As a revolving fund, the petroleum products division is funded through the sale of petroleum products to consumers, and through those sales the petroleum products division purchases more fuel to resupply community inventories. The petroleum products division is established through legislation to operate on a cost-recovery basis.

If the petroleum products division were to sell fuel at a price below cost to select customers or community locations, PPD would be required to sell fuel at a price above cost to other customers and communities to maintain a financially balanced operation.

The cost components in the price of fuel are:

• the wholesale cost of fuel;

• the cost of transportation of that fuel to the

community;

• the commissions paid to the local community

fuel sales contractor;

• a levy charged by PPD for administration,

operation and maintenance; and

• federal and territorial taxes.

The Government of the Northwest Territories funds the cost of tank farm construction and the purchases of fuel delivery vehicles through the infrastructure acquisition planning process. These costs are not recovered in the price of fuel charged by the petroleum products division, and they represent a hidden subsidy of about eight cents per litre on all petroleum products sold by the PPD.

Additionally, the costs associated with the environmental remediation of tank farms are not recovered in the prices of fuel charged by the petroleum products division.

Government programs to assist residents with fuel costs do exist, and include those programs targeted at reducing home heating fuel costs for seniors and Income Assistance (IA), which provides financial support to low-income families. The Senior Home Heating Fuel Subsidy (SHHS) and IA are programs administered and funded through the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, The NWT Housing Corporation’s public housing programs provide income-based subsidies for the rental of housing for residents in need; this includes covering the costs for heating fuel. Funding assistance is

also provided by the Department of Tourism and Investment through the Community Harvester’s Assistance Program (CHAP). Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Mr. Dolynny.

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to present a petition dealing with the matter of the creation of a territorial organ and tissue donor register.

The petition contains 504 signatures of Northwest Territories residents. The petitioners request the creation of a territorial organ and tissue donation bank, working in conjunction with existing donor card programs, and deleting the opportunity for family right of refusal. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. I’d advise the Member to shut his phone off. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following document, entitled Aurora College Annual Report 2011-2012. Mahsi.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Ramsay.

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Further to my Return to Written Question 9-17(4), I wish to table the following document, entitled Deh Cho Bridge Deficiencies. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following two documents, entitled Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 2012-2013, and Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2013-2014. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Item 15, notices of motion. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Mr. Miltenberger.