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Greyhound Bus Service
Members’ Statements

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’d like to speak about a national icon that’s been removed from the Northwest Territories.

On October 24, 2011, the Greyhound service was removed from Hay River. Greyhound provides a service throughout the nation. On that date we lost that service in the Northwest Territories. That service continues to serve the Yukon and I’ve been

informed that potentially the Yukon is supporting that process to continue because it is important. The community of Hay River and the South Slave, since it’s been removed, have suffered some difficulties without it.

This is a service that’s used by a lot of people with low income and businesses that use it for tourism. There’s a national pass system out there where tourists travelling into the country or around the country can buy a pass that will get them anywhere in Canada, except the Northwest Territories.

This service was also used by businesses that were using it to transport some of their employees in and out of the Territories on holidays and send their employees down to Edmonton on holidays or trips. That service is no longer available in the Northwest Territories.

I will have questions for the Minister of ITI and what steps we should have been working on to see if we can resume this service in the Northwest Territories; this vital, national part of the Northwest Territories. We are promoting tourism in the Northwest Territories, but this key element has been removed from Hay River. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Greyhound Bus Service
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. The honourable Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Nadli.

Highway Emergency Services
Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I asked questions to the Minister in terms of the ambulance service. I would like to talk about highway emergency services today.

Many residents of the Northwest Territories and visitors to our territory probably assume if they were to have an accident on one of our highways, there are ambulances and trained emergency service providers who would come to their rescue. They would be surprised to learn how thinly our emergency services are stretched. The issue is one of gaps and policies, legislation and coordination. We do not have a clear framework for emergency services outside of communities that tells who’s responsible for what and who is authorized to do what.

It is also one of funding for equipment and training. Most communities do not even have a local ambulance, let alone the capacity to respond to an accident 50 or 100 kilometres away.

One resource we do have, thankfully, is a lot of very committed volunteers and professionals, who are more than willing to be there to provide these essential services. It must be very frustrating for them to not have the policy and funding support they need to do that effectively.

I’m concerned that we are all living in a bubble, just hoping that we don’t have a major accident or a fire on some remote stretch of highway. The odds are that one day that bubble is going to burst.

Clearly, it is the interest of public safety that well-trained first responders are available for highway emergency. Northwest Territories residents and visitors should feel confident that services are going to be there in the unfortunate event that they need them. Increased resource development activity and promotion of NWT tourism means more traffic and the greater likelihood of accidents and fires along the highway. We need to make ground ambulance and services in communities based on the highway our priority. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Highway Emergency Services
Members’ Statements

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognitions of visitors in the gallery. Mr. McLeod.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize Mr. Willard Hagen, a constituent of Inuvik Twin Lakes; and Mr. Richard Edjericon. I’d also like to recognize Mayor Andrew Cassidy and deputy mayor Brad Mapes of Hay River who I had an opportunity to meet with this morning. Welcome to the House, gentlemen.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mrs. Groenewegen

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize the mayor, Andrew Cassidy, and deputy mayor, Brad Mapes, in the visitors gallery today. I thank the Ministers who took the time out of their schedule today to meet with the MLAs and our town representatives. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Bromley.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize Rick Edjericon, a resident of Weledeh and chair of the besieged Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Board. I don’t know if he’s still there – I can’t see behind me, Mr. Speaker – but Willard Hagen, the chair of the about-to-be redesigned Mackenzie Valley Land and Water Board. Mahsi.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Bouchard.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert Bouchard

Robert Bouchard Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to recognize the mayor of Hay River, Andrew Cassidy, and deputy mayor of Hay River, Brad Mapes. I appreciate the Ministers also meeting with us today. I think it’s vital that we get a visit in the capital here and see what we can do to help out Hay River. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. I’d like to welcome Willard Hagen here, as well, and Rick

into the House. Thank you for coming today to take in today’s proceedings.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Ms. Bisaro.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are addressed to the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation. The Minister is aware of a very difficult housing situation here in Yellowknife. A number of leased units that the Housing Corporation has leased from a landlord are being removed from the public housing inventory here in Yellowknife. Apart from the disruption to the lives of the tenants, which is a major disruption as anybody can imagine, the action also causes headaches in the ranks in the GNWT, in particular the Housing Corp.

I’d like to know from the Minister how many units at the Inukshuk Co-op are being lost to the Yellowknife public housing inventory, and who took the action to remove these units from the Yellowknife public housing inventory, and how many units are being lost. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, Mr. McLeod.

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member is correct; we were leasing 17 units from Inukshuk. They had a board of directors meeting and they had decided that they weren’t going to renew their lease with the NWT Housing Corporation, so that affected 17 units and all those residents in there. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

This is a fairly significant reduction in the capacity of public housing in Yellowknife. I think it’s at least 5 percent. I’d like to know whether or not the NWT Housing Corporation will be looking at replacing these lost units with other ones. Is this a permanent reduction or will we be able to keep the same complement of housing that we have now in public housing in Yellowknife? Thank you.

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, the Yellowknife Housing Authority is currently over-allocated as far as the number of units that they do have. A lot of it affects the money that we get from CMHC. The money is declining; therefore, the number of units that we’re able to maintain is starting to be affected.

We’ve asked all the communities to look at ways of reducing their stock, because a lot of them are over-allocated on the number of units that they have.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, I’m a little concerned to hear the Minister say that Yellowknife is over-allocated. He also referenced other communities. I guess I need to know from the Minister what that term means.

We have a great need for public housing here in Yellowknife. There’s a need for public housing in every community, I think, but I think Yellowknife, as the capital, although it’s a different situation here, we do need more public housing.

I’d like to ask the Minister if he could please explain to me what the term “over-allocated” means. Thank you.

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, each community is allocated a number of units that they keep in their stock. As we’re bringing new units into stock, a lot of the communities haven’t been reducing their allocation of units by that amount. So if a community got five new units, we would expect them to take five out of stock, because these are public housing replacement units. With the declining CMHC funding, it’s getting unsustainable to be trying to do maintenance on a lot of these units.

I recognize the Member’s point about the need for public housing. We do see that across the Northwest Territories. However, in some situations we try to deal with the number of units that each LHO has, and if there is an opportunity to possibly hang on to some of these units, then we have to explore that option also.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final, short supplementary, Ms. Bisaro.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Speaker. I think I heard the Minister say that they’re going to look at things, but I guess my last question to him would be: Recognizing that there’s a need for more public housing in Yellowknife, what plans does the Housing Corporation have to try and increase the number of units in the public housing inventory here in the city? Thank you.

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, we have a number of units here in the capital and we are looking, in all the communities, at the number of units that we have there. This is kind of an ongoing issue to see where we can make some changes. Some communities may need to add on to the number that they have; some are a little over-allocated, as I said before. But it’s an ongoing issue and I could commit to the Member, and all Members opposite, that we will continue to have a look at this and make sure that we get to a point where all the housing needs are close to being met or are met, and also having this number of units is not unsustainable with the money that we get from CMHC. Because the difference is going to have to be made up somewhere, and in most cases it

would come, I think, before the Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The Member for Deh Cho, Mr. Nadli.

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I asked a question in the House in terms of the long-term plans for ambulances, and I appreciated the response. My question is directed to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.

As you know, at this point we have increased industrial activity in the Sahtu, where we’re seeing large amounts of transporting of goods up to the Sahtu area; plus, at the same time, we have the bridge operable now on a 24-hour basis. So we are seeing increased activity of traffic on the highways.

My question is to the Minister of MACA. What emergency services are available now to assist when there’s a serious accident or fire along the highway outside the community boundaries? Mahsi.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. The Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. McLeod.