This is page numbers 3683 – 3722 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters, with Mr. Dolynny in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

February 17th, 2014

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Good afternoon, committee. I’d like to call Committee of the Whole to order. We have two items for consideration, committee: Tabled Document 4-17(5) and Tabled Document 22-17(5). What is the wish of the committee? Madam Bisaro.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We’d like to continue with Tabled Document 22-17(5). We would like to continue with Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations, and then the NWT Housing Corporation and, time permitting, Health and Social Services.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Does committee agree?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Okay, committee. We will commence after a short break.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

I’ll call Committee of the Whole to order. Mr. Premier, do you have witnesses for the House?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Yes, I do, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Does committee agree?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

I’ll ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to escort the witness into the Chamber.

I’ll have you reintroduce your witnesses.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. To my right I have Martin Goldney, deputy minister of the Department of Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations; to my left I have Richard Robertson, director of policy, planning and communications for the Department of Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Welcome, gentlemen. Committee, yesterday we left off on page 4-25, activity summary, intergovernmental relations, operations expenditures, $1.707 million. Mr. Dolynny.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Welcome back to the Premier and staff. It’s just more of a

question of curiosity, not really affecting the budget for 2014-15 but more for completion of the picture. I want to draw everyone’s attention to the very last line of this activity summary to NWT Days in Ottawa. We all know the Premier has made comments in the House that this was funded within the department, but this activity deals with the expenditure and there is nothing indicated here under main or revised for expenses for NWT Days in Ottawa. Maybe we could get some clarity as to why it was not in this activity. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Premier.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We are not planning to do another NWT Days in this fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Again, I’ll rephrase my question. I realize there wouldn’t be any expenses in the 2014-15 Main Estimates. I’m looking for a track record, which is a document that we have before us which indicates no expenses for NWT Days in Ottawa. We know it was funded within, but I guess for completion it should show up here as a reference point in this document. So if it’s not in this document, if the Premier or staff could indicate where it was captured in preparing these main estimates. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

It shows under 2013 actuals. Those were the amounts that the Department of Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations spent on NWT Days. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

So, for clarity purposes, NWT Days that occurred last year around this time in 2013 were actually paid for and accrued in the main estimates of the 2012-2013 budget. Is that correct?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

That’s correct.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Mr. Nadli.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chair. With regard to the intergovernmental relations, I just wanted to seek some clarification and information. As of April 1, 2014, as we proceed with devolution, I know the Premier has indicated there will be an Intergovernmental Council that will reside with the GNWT plus First Nations people sitting at one table. Is there a provision within the act that will clearly stipulate the role of the Intergovernmental Council? Mahsi.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Mr. Premier.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is the intention. We have sent a letter out to all the Aboriginal government partners that have signed on to devolution to sign on to the Intergovernmental Council Agreement. Once we have that legislation, the draft legislation will be finalized. Through you,

Mr. Chair, I will ask Mr. Goldney to go into the detail of what will be in the draft legislation. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Robert Bouchard

Thank you, Mr. Premier. Deputy Minister Goldney.