Debates of Feb. 20th, 2014
This is page numbers 3763 – 3804 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was land.
Topics
- Oral Questions
- Prayer
- Minister's Statement 30-17(5): Announcement Of New Agreements With Employment And Social Development Canada
- Minister's Statement 31-17(5): Economic Opportunities Strategy
- Minister's Statement 32-17(5): Impact Of Funding Reallocation For Junior Kindergarten On The Pupil-Teacher Ratio
- Reflections On Budget Process
- Improving The Student Financial Assistance Program
- Positions For Returning Students
- Dehcho Land Use Plan
- GNWT Financial Shared Services
- Population Growth Initiatives
- Investing In Northern Residents
- Lessons From A Decreasing Population
- Northerners As A Priority
- Population Growth Initiatives
- Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
- Question 146-17(5): Enhancing Private Sector Hiring
- Question 147-17(5): Student Financial Assistance Program
- Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
- Question 149-17(5): Dehcho Land Use Plan
- Question 150-17(5): Affected Employee Policy
- Question 151-17(5): 2014-2015 Tax Revenue
- Question 152-17(5): Auditor General Report On Child And Family Services
- Question 153-17(5): Forest Industry Development
- Question 154-17(5): Population Growth Initiatives
- Question 155-17(5): Vacant GNWT Positions In Mackenzie Delta
- Question 156-17(5): Transitional Rent Supplement Program
- Question 157-17(5): Cultural Office At Aurora College
- Written Question 10-17(5): Tax Revenues In The 2014-2015 Main Estimates
- Motion 11-17(5): Creation Of Regional Land And Water Offices, Defeated
- Recorded Vote
- Bill 8: Write-Off Of Debts Act, 2013-14
- Bill 9: Forgiveness Of Debts Act, 2013-14
- Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
- Report of Committee of the Whole
- Orders of the Day
Question 147-17(5): Student Financial Assistance Program
Oral Questions

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister offering his comments and thoughts on that. Earlier today the Minister indicated, and just now, that they are working on a review within a framework of a number other departments.
Can the Minister indicate to the House here when Members on this side of the House might be able to see the findings of this review. Thank you.
Question 147-17(5): Student Financial Assistance Program
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi
Like I said, we had one particular meeting with the newly established committee and it’s very preliminary at this point. My department is compiling all of the information on those particular students, over 1,400 students that are out in the post-secondary and their fields of interest and the year they’re in and compiling that with the HR. They have their own data. It is quite a large amount that we need to work with. So, once all that information is compiled between the departments, we will be presenting to the standing committee in due time. Mahsi.
Question 147-17(5): Student Financial Assistance Program
Oral Questions
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions
February 20th, 2014

Robert Bouchard Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions will be for the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment. I’d like to continue on with students, but I guess I’m a little annoyed with his statements today in the House about the junior kindergarten being funded by the pupil-teacher ratio. I guess my first question is where this 16 to 1 pupil-teacher ratio came from, because that’s not what I’m hearing in the community. The community wants more teachers, more assistants. Where does this number come from?
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson
Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. This ratio 16 to 1 has always been there. It’s part of our legislation. We’ve been working with that with
the school boards throughout the years. At the same time, we’ve been providing an additional $11 million so it can be based at 13 to 1 on the average throughout the Northwest Territories. It is through the legislation that was passed through this House, so that’s what we continuously work with throughout the years.
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions

Robert Bouchard Hay River North
It’s not that I don’t support junior kindergarten, it’s the fact that how many times can this government use pupil-teacher ratios as an excuse to download more things to the DEAs.
When will there be additional funds added to the DEAs so that they can implement these programs that they keep downloading to them?
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi
As I stated in this House earlier, through our engagement with the Aboriginal Student Achievement Initiative, early childhood development, the discussions that we’ve had, engagement with the general public, and education renewal and innovation, we’ve been hearing from the general public, the parents, the grandparents, the educators that we have to think innovatively within our department. We have to think strategically how we can deliver the most effective programming in the community schools. That’s one area that we felt the PTRs, which under legislation are 16 to 1, so we figured we can access that through the work with the education authorities. This is an area that we are currently accessing to provide the quality junior kindergarten programming into our school system. It will benefit those 10 communities that do not have licenced child care programming. Those are just some of the areas that we’ve been told by parents to pursue it, and we are pursuing it.
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions

Robert Bouchard Hay River North
Again, I am not against junior kindergarten. I am just wondering that this money and the fact that we have these hardworking teachers and people in our public education system that are trying to do the work but they keep getting downloaded that more and more things have to be done with less money, but they’re strung out already.
When are we actually going to increase the budgets and figure out the formulas to these DEAs?
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi
Through the education renewal innovation we are going to look at the overall formula funding for our educational partners as well. We’ve been discussing this at the early stages back in 2007 until today, how we fund the school boards, how we fund the school programming, and based on the needs of the communities. This is an area that we’ve been told that we need to seriously look at formula funding to our school system. Currently it’s based on enrolment, and now we’ve been told why couldn’t it be based on base plus and go from there. Those are some of the areas we are contemplating with our education partners. Once we develop an action
plan over the summer on education renewal, those are some of the highlights that will be addressed through the business planning process.
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions

Robert Bouchard Hay River North
Yes, I guess, Mr. Speaker, it’s hard to get some of the questions answered, I guess. I just don’t understand how pupil-teacher ratios can keep being the excuse for more programs being added to these schools and district educations without any additional money. I’m just wondering when the department will actually get some more money into that area.
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi
We have to deal with the overall GNWT funding that’s been allocated to the school boards. With that, obviously, there is a surplus of over $8 million. Somehow we need to think outside the box and strategically how to best invest into our educational system. It is GNWT funding overall, and as we go through the business planning process, this means that as we go through, we’ve identified several areas of interest investment such as we did with the wage top-up. Over $511 million that we’re going to move forward with the new money once the budget’s approved here. Every year we go through this, and I, as the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, will continue to push what’s best for the children of the Northwest Territories.
Question 148-17(5): Pupil-Teacher Ratio
Oral Questions
Question 149-17(5): Dehcho Land Use Plan
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I kind of broke rank with my colleagues, but I wanted to ask the question to the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs in terms of explaining the role of the Government of the Northwest Territories in working on the Dehcho Land Use Plan. The reason why I ask that is I think this government has a public interest to ensure that things are progressing at the same time milestones are achieved but, at the same time, explain to the public in terms of the involvement of the GNWT.
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