This is page numbers 4415 – 4436 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I’ve stated numerous times in this House that this whole Junior Kindergarten Program three-year phase rollout has been the voice of the North. We’ve been through various engagements. Through Aboriginal Student Achievement Initiative a few years back, and then the Early Childhood Development Framework the action plan was brought to our attention, and also the education renewal innovation. There have been a lot of discussions that have happened. There has also been research throughout Canada and internationally. We brought those researchers here to Yellowknife so Members could have questions of the researchers as well. Based on that, we feel that junior kindergarten is the way to go throughout the Northwest Territories. Mahsi.

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

I have to say we did have questions for those people that the Minister brought forward. I just wonder about the responses that we received. I wonder if the Minister has been listening.

My question here is: What evaluation has been done on the pilot program in Fort Providence and how long has this been used to help design programs planned for this coming fall? Mahsi.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi. We have to work with our federal counterparts, because what the Member is referring to is the Aboriginal Head Start program. That is funded through the federal government. We don’t evaluate that, the federal government does. They report to the federal government. We work with them. We work with the communities, we work with all 33 communities and junior kindergarten is optional programming for the communities.

The Aboriginal Head Start program is in the communities. We support them as well. We provide funding to various child care programming in the communities. Some of the communities, as I stated before, do not have licenced early childhood programming, so this way it has the programming into the communities. Mahsi.

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you. The question was: What evaluation has been done on ECE’s pilot program of junior kindergarten in Fort Providence? Thank you.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Thank you. As I stated before, there have been various areas of evaluation and assessment of current delivery in the communities, whether it be preschools, early junior kindergarten and some of the development programming in the communities. So we’ve looked

at all of that and we’re working, also, with the licenced child care programming, the centres.

This is an area that is not a brand new discussion we’re having today. Over the years of engagement, we’ve been hearing from the parents and the educators that we need to move forward on focusing on the preschool. We currently deliver preschool in our school system throughout the Northwest Territories, but they want us to capture all 33 communities. So, that’s our goal and objective. Mahsi.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley.

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don’t really know where to start. I’m number three in the one, two, three punch and hopefully the Minister is listening here and developing a tender spot. He’s on the wrong track here. The plans to duplicate Aboriginal Head Start programs for four-year-olds and other programs for four-year-olds, wiping them off the map while putting in place their own inexperienced program when the research shows focus is needed on zero to three. What can I say? The Minister calls this collaboration? How is this collaboration?

Aboriginal Head Start has hard-earned experience, expertise, resources for providing ECE programs for four-year-olds in eight communities. Why will ECE not recognize this, work with Aboriginal Head Start to expand their existing service collaboratively and focus department efforts on providing zero to three early childhood development programs that the research said is desperately needed to avoid this achievement gap that lasts a lifetime? That’s where the opportunity is. Mahsi.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi. Let me be clear. We’re not wiping out the other programs. We’re enhancing the other programs that are in the communities and this is optional junior kindergarten programming for those individuals that cannot afford junior kindergarten in the communities. Ten communities without licenced child care programming, but we are going to be rolling out the program in 29 communities, the small, isolated communities that are without these licenced programming.

We are enhancing, yes there is preschool, there’s also Head Start programming. As I’ve stated in this House, we have an early childhood consultant that is working very closely with the communities, the community operators such as the Head Start program, such as preschool educators. So we’ll continue to push that forward. I want the support of those organizations as well and we’re going to continue to do that. Mahsi.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Earlier in the day I did my Member’s statement on cancer and cancer screening in the smaller communities. I’d like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services, how does the Minister explain the uneven levels of cancer screening in communities of different sizes and what will be done about it? Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche. The Minister of Health, Mr. Abernethy.

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are a number of things that we’re doing across the Northwest Territories, and each of the authorities is responsible for providing the health professionals in their communities, and nurses are out there trying to encourage people to come into the health centres when they’re not feeling well, to get pre-screening and to get regular well man and well woman clinics done.

Prevention is one thing that we need to be doing, and we’re doing that. The other thing that we need to be doing is making sure that people are getting a timely assessment. I would encourage the Member, I would encourage all residents of the Northwest Territories to go to your health centres, visit with your health professionals, do your well man and well woman clinics to make sure that all your health is being taken care of.

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Certainly, I know that we do have a Cancer Strategy and it’s well on track, but at the same time, when the Minister says go see your health professionals, we’ve got communities like Wrigley, Colville Lake, Tsiigehtchic, all my other communities, Nahanni Butte, we’ve got no nurses there, and people have not been tracked. They’ve gotten lost in the system and there are cases where follow-up was not done.

How is the Minister and how is our health system going to address this?

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

I’ve been the Minister of Health for about four months now, approaching five, and I’ve had this brought up to me several different times, and I personally have had the opportunity to sit down with residents in the Northwest Territories who have experienced cancer who have expressed the exact types of concerns that the Member is bringing up with me. We do have a cancer patient navigator position within Stanton. That position is intended to help individuals through the system. But I hear the Member and I know that we need to do a little bit more work there. We do have the Aboriginal health and community wellness division within the Department of Health and Social Services and they’ve been doing a number of things to promote regular assessment and regular visits with your

physician but also doing things like sharing circles to make sure that people who are experiencing cancer have the supports they need in the communities. But I do hear the Member. I do recognize that there are some challenges out there. I’m certainly interested in the Member’s input and we will continue to work to enhance this particular area.

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

The report also talks about morbidity rates, particularly amongst the Dene, Inuit and Metis people is 1.5 times higher, so what’s happening is that more and more Aboriginal people are dying of cancer and some of it is because we are in the smaller communities.

I’d like to ask the Minister, has he reviewed the report, looked at the morbidity rates, most particularly amongst the Aboriginal people, and what will the department do about that?

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

I am aware of the rates and there are a number of things we’re trying to do. We’re obviously trying to encourage healthier living. We have the Healthy Choices framework where we’re trying to encourage people to eat healthy, live healthy, be healthy, quit smoking and lose weight. All of these things obviously contribute to cancer rates in the Northwest Territories, so we’re trying to help people make healthy choices. We do have system navigators in place to help individuals when they’re through, and we do have health professionals in most of the communities where we’re encouraging individuals to go for their regular visits with their practitioners to make sure that they’re getting the treatment and support they need. Early detection is key, and that’s why we really need people to work with their health centres.

I am happy to say that through the Aboriginal health and community wellness division, communities are starting to engage with their own community wellness plans to promote healthy living but also encourage people to utilize the services that exist.

But I will go back to the previous question. We know we need to do more around the navigation to make sure that people’s journey through the system is as seamless as possible. We want better health, we want better care and we want a better future for all of our residents.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Menicoche.

Kevin A. Menicoche

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated in my Member’s statement, as well, I’m pleased that our cancer rates aren’t increasing, and I’m also pleased that we’ve undertaken a program called the cancer sharing circles. The report only spoke about three communities. I am supportive of it.

What is the ministry going to do about increasing the number of cancer sharing circles and the

frequency of it in all our communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

This is one of the areas that we’ve had some positive feedback on. We need to figure out ways to expand it out and make it more available. There are all sorts of opportunities here. Telehealth is one example. We have an opportunity to bring people together. I will commit to working with the Members to see what opportunities exist to expand this in the future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Mr. Dolynny.

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today I brought up the issue of poaching hard-earned cash surpluses from our district education school boards in Yellowknife to fund the territorial Junior Kindergarten Program.

As I indicated today, this method of paying for school rollout initiatives is only penalizing school boards that have sound management in place and I believe this will only breed resentment. My questions today are for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Prior to making this decision, can the Minister inform the House, did the department undertake a full-scale assessment of potential negative impact on Yellowknife school boards? Specifically, did the department anticipate an increase in the mill rate for Yellowknife taxpayers? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Yes, my department has been engaged and has conducted a review of the implications for junior kindergarten in each school board across the Northwest Territories. We have also looked at the success of students in junior kindergarten when it was implemented in other jurisdictions, just to see the outcome of introducing a junior kindergarten.

The mill rate question is another one that we haven’t looked at as a department or as GNWT. The mill rate, as it is, is a municipal jurisdiction. Many of our communities are non-tax-based communities. It would be unfair to Yellowknife to have Yellowknife taxpayers pay for junior kindergarten all across the Territories. So, those are some of the things we came up with. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

At least the Minister and I agree on one thing, it will have an effect on our mill rate in

Yellowknife, and unfortunately, we didn’t do the math.

Can the Minister clarify, prior to making this decision to affect school board surpluses, what type of consultation was undertaken with the boards? Thank you.