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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. The time for oral questions has expired. Mr. Dolynny.

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to return to item 7 on the Order Paper.

---Unanimous consent granted

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. Today I want to talk about one of the mismanagement projects that we’ve had in our history of the Northwest Territories. In fact, this project has even been earmarked by the Auditor General of Canada as having definite issues with accountability and transparency, and even more recently, the taxpayers are still dealing with cost overruns with this project. I’m talking about the Deh Cho Bridge.

This project is still not done. I’m led to believe that we are still dealing with structural issues and even as of this summer that we’ve just recently sole sourced a southern contractor for a substantial amount of money to fix the pillar that is in dire need of repair, which has failed engineering specifications and it is really an issue of safety. So I’m now going to ask the questions to the department, represented by the Minister of Transportation, or maybe give us a little bit of an update here.

What exactly is happening this summer with this new contract that’s being sole sourced to a southern firm? Thank you.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Minister of Transportation, Mr. Beaulieu.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My understanding is that the bridge was shut down temporarily a couple of weeks ago to complete the work that had to be completed. I know that that did not create a tremendous amount of issues. We had some issue with the traffic and people wanting to haul larger loads across. We’re able to accommodate everything at this time. I don’t have the specifics of that contract that the Member refers to, but my understanding is that that’s not an issue. Thank you.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Contrary to what we just heard from the Minister, I don’t believe this is indeed what’s transpiring. What we’re hearing from the industry is that there is indeed a large contract that is coming from the South, sole sourced, to do major repairs on the cement pillar to bring it up to safety code. We’re also hearing that this organization is coming back to fix the railings that were not repaired last year and to fix the electrical system that was not done properly last year. Again, we’re hearing to the tune of up to $4 million. Can the Minister confirm or deny whether or not we’re going to be doing this large-scale project to bring this bridge really to safety code? Thank you.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you. One of the piers that was repaired on the Deh Cho Bridge, we have confirmed that there were three issues with the pier underneath the water. What had happened was that after the repair work was done, we had taken photos of the repair work. Unfortunately, we only obtained two photos of the three areas. We’re going back down when the season is right to look at that pier. That’s my understanding of the pier and the rock that is around the pier. There is some work that needs to be done. There’s some holdback on it.

I’m not aware that we are requesting $4 million to complete work. If there is $4 million worth of work, it would be work that would be done in the budget that was approved here in the House. Thank you.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you. This is exactly the problem with why the Auditor General of Canada was brought in to evaluate this project. We continue to have mismanagement of these cost overruns, we continue to have a clandestine approach to how this project is being managed in the department, Members on this side of the House have no idea where this money is being spent. We go to the website, there’s nothing mentioned. We go to the Deh Cho Bridge info website, what does it say, account suspended – no information.

Can the Minister indicate as to when we’re going to get updated information so we can follow this so-called phantom spending that may happen this summer? Thank you.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you. I know that each time the Members had asked for an update on the Deh Cho Bridge, the department has been more than accommodating. We are prepared to do that and we can provide an update, full disclosure of costs, anything that needs to happen that we need to communicate to the Members.

The issue here is not as simple as the Member makes it out to be. We had an issue with a contractor, the contractor that had to be removed from the site or had been taken off the site. The contractor changed. There were some issues with that. Anytime you do a large-scale project of this size and you have to change contractors in midstream there’s a potential for issues. So, there is some of that and that had happened.

The bridge is substantially complete. There is some work that has to be done, some is seasonal and some are minor deficiencies, but nothing to the scale that the Member speaks of. Thank you.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Dolynny.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again I ask, the Department of Transportation website last correspondence was 2010. That is it. Your current Deh Cho Bridge website is suspended. I appreciate the Minister wanting to provide Members information, but I think the public deserves to know where their dollars are being spent, not just the Members.

Will the Minister commit to do a full disclosure update, update these websites, talk about all the money, talk about the reserve and put a final closure to this project so we know indeed what taxpayers are on the hook for? Thank you.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Yes, I will commit to that.

Question 324-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge
Oral Questions (Reversion)

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Environment. I’d like to follow up from my Member’s statement of earlier today on Giant Mine. As both a proponent and a regulator, I’m asking the Minister if he could ask himself and tell us when you will sign the agreed upon environmental assessment for Giant Mine and allow its implementation. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We, along with the rest of the responsible Ministers, are waiting for the lead responsible Minister from AANDC to publicly announce the agreement and agreed upon recommendations and modifications. Thank you.

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

We often hear complaints about delays in process and so on, but really fundamentally most of the delays are because things end up on Ministers’ desks without resolution.

Could I ask why the delay? We’ve agreed upon it. Everybody has agreed upon it. Work is going ahead without being done under the conditions of the environmental assessment that everybody has agreed on. Why the delay?

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, this is a project on a site that is under federal responsibility. The federal Minister of AANDC has hold of the pen and is investing his department. We, like everybody else, are awaiting his public release and approval of the report and the agreed to modifications. Thank you.

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thanks to the Minister. Will the Minister ask his federal colleague why the delay and report back to the House? Mahsi.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley.

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We’ll probably be delayed on the answer, but if it could be done during this session so the public is informed, that would be appreciated. Thanks for that commitment.

Work is needed, definitely needed. It’s a situation that we want to get resolved, and work is underway, but there is also the need for oversight to make sure it’s being done in the way that everybody has agreed upon.

Is the delay being done on purpose to delay public oversight? Thank you.

Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, the attribution of motive is not something I want to engage in. We know what is before us. We’re waiting for the federal Minister to give a public response. In the meantime, some work is carrying on. It has been taken out of the EA that has been deemed to be critical with the roaster and underground stabilization and such, but other than that, the project remains under care and maintenance until the federal Minister releases the final decision following the response from Ministers. Thank you.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Hawkins.

Question 326-17(5): Deh Cho Bridge Electrical Contract
Oral Questions (Reversion)

May 29th, 2014

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to pick up a little bit on one of the subjects Member Dolynny raised with the Deh Cho Bridge. Of course, I’ll be directing them, obviously, to the Minister of Transportation.

More than a year ago, I was raising with the former Minister of Transportation a concern about the electrical contractor, how he was quite proud about the fact that the southern contractor met the expectations of the contract, and of course, we had to award it to the southern contractor because they were cheaper. Of course, they met the standards of everything that they had asked for in the contract. But my understanding is they never met those expectations on safety and installation process. Of course, their community commitment, from my understanding, was nothing and I think that proved itself out by itself.

I would like to get some details on how a southern contractor fulfilled their obligations when they won the electrical contract on the Deh Cho Bridge. My questions are to the Minister of Transportation to explain how that rolled out and how they met every obligation that they won that contract under. Thank you.