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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Okay, detail. Thank you, Members. Please turn to page 6 of the tabled document. Education, Culture and Employment, labour development and standards, not previously authorized, $100,000. Total department, $100,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Department of Environment and Natural Resources, forest management, not previously authorized $406,000. Total department, $406,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Page 8, Finance, Office of the Chief Information Officer, not previously authorized, $120,000. Office of the Comptroller General, not previously authorized, $160,000. Total department, not previously authorized, $280,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Mr. Bromley.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. Could I have an explanation of this last item of $280,000? It sounds like there was a surplus in the child and family services budget for the information system that we've been trying to get in place for years now. In fact, I was told there was ongoing work that we'd approved for this fiscal year and that there was even more capital dollars planned for next year to finish off the Child and Family Services Information System. If I've got that right, I'm questioning how there can be this $280,000 in surplus given we're barely halfway through the year, if I'm understanding this correctly. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Aumond.

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Aumond

Thank you, Madam Chair. There's no surplus in the child and family services project. It's just that the project has faced some delays in getting started. From a cash flow perspective, they were not going to use all the money that was allocated in their budget for the 2015-2016 year, so the discussion and decision was around a couple of projects in Finance that were approved and proceeding. The first one was on the cash management function. That was going to be spread over two years and the thinking or the decision was to try to use some of that surplus, not surplus but free up cash this year from Health and Social Services to do that project over one year. For the security tools, because of the money allocated in the IT budget for this year, we didn't have enough funding to cover all the assets we wanted to, to get all the security tools in place. This money will allow that to happen. Next year in the capital plan, that $280,000 will go back to Health and Social Services and they will be able to spend the money and the project will pick up steam in the next fiscal year. So, it's not that there's a surplus, there's a cash flow issue from that project that we are re-profiling to this year, and that $280,000, again, as I said, will be available for that project next fiscal year and we'll be in a position to spend that money. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Aumond. Mr. Bromley.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. The deputy minister has just said exactly what I said, albeit in more flowery terms. This is extremely disappointing. We have been trying to get this approved, the Child and Family Services Information System, as the Minister of Health knows, since the 16th Assembly. It was recognized that our child and family services workers are so flummoxed by this useless piece of software that they spend times driven to smoking, leaving the building and going out to smoke, because this is a useless piece of software that we have and it's affecting the delivery of child and family services. The Auditor General was on about exactly this stuff, and year after year after year we've transferred dollars. I guess I'm just so tired of it and I can't imagine what our workers are feeling when they're absolutely driven to extraction and doing unhealthy things from a useless piece of software that they simply can't even administer, follow, record the family's history over time, extended family's history over time, critical for being able to support our families as needed.

Can I ask what's going on here? Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. I'll go to Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Member asked roughly the same question when we were discussing the capital budget for '16-17. At that time I indicated that we have actually made some progress on this file, significant progress. We are moving forward with a brand new system; we're in the negotiations with a potential provider. It's not going to be a rebuild of the existing awful system that the Member has described, but given the time it's taken to land on an appropriate vendor, someone who can actually do the work and give us the tool that is going to meet the needs of the social workers that are involved in this file and we've been seeking their input and advice as we move along to make sure that people are informed.

We still anticipate the end date to be the same. We just need to move some money from this current fiscal year to the future fiscal year because we're not going to be able to spend all the money this fiscal year. But at the end of the day, we still are projecting the same go live date that we've been contemplating all along. It's more of a cash flow adjustment to make sure that we can actually get this project done and that we have the full funds in the appropriate fiscal year.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Mr. Bromley.

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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just hope the Minister is right. I'm hoping if I'm ever driven to listening to our proceedings a year from now...

---Laughter

...that I am not seeing this same thing yet again. The sound system sure is a soaker for gobbling up cash. Just a comment. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. I thought you were going to say if I'm ever driven to smoking. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. We as well hope that the Member is never driven to having to unwillingly watch the proceedings on TV to check up on this thing and we intend to honour the commitment that's laid out here. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Finance, office of the chief information officer, not previously authorized, $120,000. Office of the comptroller general, not previously authorized, $160,000. Total department not previously authorized, $280,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Health and Social Services, administrative and support services, not previously authorized, negative $172,000. Total department, not previously authorized, negative $172,000. Agreed.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Turning to page 10, Public Works and Services, asset management, not previously authorized, $1.5 million. Total department, not previously authorized, $1.5 million. Mr. Dolynny.

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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd like to welcome the department here again today for the appropriations. Maybe if we can just start this off with a simple lead-in question here, if we can get some level of explanation what this $1.5 million means with respect to tenant improvements. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Mr. Kalgutkar