This is page numbers 2380-2404 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was program.

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Hon. Glen Abernethy, Mr. Blake, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Ms. Green, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. McNeely, Hon. Alfred Moses, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Nakimayak, Mr. O'Reilly, Hon. Wally Schumann, Hon. Louis Sebert, Mr. Simpson, Mr. Testart, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Vanthuyne.

The House met at 10:00 a.m.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Good morning, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers' statements.

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories made a commitment in its mandate to work to resolve outstanding land, resources and self-government agreements during the term of our government. I would like to update Members today on the work our government is doing to fulfill that commitment.

Concluding these agreements and bringing increased certainty to land and resource management in the Northwest Territories is one of the most important challenges facing the 18th Legislative Assembly. Over the last year, all parties have made renewed efforts to tackle the remaining challenges and finalize agreements. As a result, I am confident that the 18th Legislative Assembly will see success in this area.

Last fall, negotiators completed a full draft of a self-government agreement-in-principle for the Sahtu Dene and Metis of Tulita. On May 16, 2017, negotiators for the parties initialed the Tulita self-government agreement-in-principle in Tulita. Work is now underway to arrange for the formal approval and signing of this self-government agreement-in-principle. Once signed and approved, negotiations toward concluding a Tulita final self-government agreement will begin.

Negotiators for the parties have also completed an initial full draft of a Gwich'in self-government agreement-in-principle. Mr. Speaker, negotiators will be meeting next week to address issues that arose in consultations and in internal reviews of the draft agreement-in-principle.

Mr. Speaker, negotiators for the parties have also completed a full draft of a self-government agreement-in-principle for the Sahtu Dene and Metis of Norman Wells. Each party is currently reviewing the draft agreement, and consultations with other potentially affected Aboriginal parties have begun.

I am also pleased to report that negotiators for the parties are working on the last few remaining issues to complete a full draft of an Inuvialuit self-government final agreement.

Mr. Speaker, self-government negotiations with the Sahtu Dene and Metis of Colville Lake are working on text of a self-government agreement, and the parties have struck a working group to deal with important land related matters in the community of Colville Lake. Similarly, self-government negotiations are underway and a community information session is scheduled in June to hear from the community and keep them informed on these self-government negotiations.

Final agreement negotiations with the Acho Dene Koe First Nation of Fort Liard and the Northwest Territory Metis Nation have reached the point where key decisions on the central aspects involving settlement lands and land quantum and the approach to governance are before them. The GNWT looks forward to hearing from the Acho Dene Koe First Nation on how they wish to proceed following their recent Band Council elections.

Mr. Speaker, working with Canada, Minister Bennett and I appointed two Ministerial Special Representatives to provide us with independent advice on whether agreements with the Dehcho First Nations, the Akaitcho Dene First Nations and the Northwest Territory Metis Nation are possible and how to approach concluding such agreements.

Mr. Speaker, on April 5th Minister Bennett and I met in Ottawa with leaders from the Akaitcho Dene First Nations and the Northwest Territory Metis Nation to discuss the report of the MSR. These meetings went well, with all parties acknowledging the helpful advice contained in the report. With the parties having common ground on the approach to negotiations and generally supporting the Ministerial Special Representatives' recommendations, Minister Bennett and I committed to providing revised offers to the Akaitcho Dene First Nations and the Northwest Territory Metis Nation.

I am pleased to advise Members that government negotiators tabled a revised offer to the Northwest Territory Metis Nation on May 24th and a revised offer to the Akaitcho Dene First Nations yesterday. These revised offers were informed by the ministerial special representative's recommendations and is flexible so that it can be aligned to meet the priorities of the parties.

Mr. Speaker, enhanced workplans are also being developed with the Akaitcho Dene First Nations and the Northwest Territory Metis Nation to conclude a negotiator's draft of an Akaitcho agreement-in-principle and a Metis final agreement in the next 18 - 24 months.

Mr. Speaker, in addition to these enhanced work plans, government will also propose new approaches to negotiations, approaches that make use of facilitators to assist all parties in finding solutions to issues involving overlapping interests between the Akaitcho Dene First Nations and the Northwest Territory Metis Nation.

Mr. Speaker, while I cannot go into specific details regarding the contents of the offers or what was discussed during negotiations because all parties have agreed to keep negotiating positions confidential, I can report that additional meetings and negotiations are being planned over the next few months to build a consensus among the parties on key elements each party needs to conclude agreements.

Mr. Speaker, Minister Bennett and I also met with leaders from the Dehcho First Nations on April 5th to discuss the report of the Ministerial Special Representative appointed to review those negotiations. Following that meeting, Minister Bennett and I wrote to Dehcho leadership asking them to confirm basic principles that are already accepted at other tables: that negotiations are trilateral and that a Dehcho Final Agreement will include the Dehcho portion of the single integrated system of resource management in the Mackenzie Valley.

The GNWT respects that the Dehcho First Nations must come to their own conclusions on these important matters, which are fundamental aspects on how to approach negotiations. We continue to await the Dehcho's response and look forward to being able to get back to the table with them if we agree there is a path forward.

Once the Dehcho First Nations provides confirmation that there is common ground between the parties on these matters, Canada and the GNWT will provide the Dehcho First Nations with a revised offer shortly thereafter.

The certainty provided by final land claim and self-government agreements is central to the health of our communities, our economy, and our environment. Concluding these agreements is an essential step towards providing certainty on how land in the NWT can be used for economic development, for conservation, for recreation and for traditional activities. The GNWT remains committed to doing its part to finalize land, resources and self-government agreements as quickly as possible in a manner that is fair, balanced and continues to promote workable and affordable agreements that respect Aboriginal rights. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Member for Education, Culture and Employment.

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Government of the Northwest Territories made a commitment in its mandate to strengthen culture and heritage in the NWT by working with partners and stakeholders to update the 2010 NWT Aboriginal Languages Plan.

I am pleased to share with Members that later today I will be tabling the 2017 Northwest Territories Aboriginal Languages Framework: A Shared Responsibility. This is the product of extensive engagement across the territory with Indigenous governments, language communities, cultural organizations, elders and regional language coordinators. The Official Languages Board and Aboriginal Languages Revitalization Board members worked very hard in reviewing past recommendations the standing committees had put forward during their reviews of the Official Languages Act. They discussed and debated which recommendations would best serve to help shape the future of language preservation and revitalization, and they are the primary architects of the framework. I thank them for their clarity, commitments, and valuable advice as we move toward a future where all official languages are supported, respected, and thriving.

This framework and the soon to be released action plan reflect the government's new partnership approach to language revitalization and promotion, where regional Indigenous governments are funded and responsible for managing their own language revitalization efforts. It also includes measures to ensure all partners in language revitalization remain accountable.

Mr. Speaker, we have a monumental task ahead of us. Many of our languages are in a critical state, in danger of disappearing as we lose language speakers across the North. Languages are the foundation of culture.

If we are to preserve and invest in our many cultures across the North, we must be focusing on preserving and teaching, which will aid in rebuilding the foundations. Earlier today, our MP, Mr. Michael McLeod, representing Canadian Heritage and I announced much needed investments in Indigenous languages over four years, totalling $19,600,000.

This will allow us to increase funding for Indigenous governments' regional language plans and provide more support for the regional language coordinators. We will also be appointing a new territorial linguist to assist Indigenous governments in their work, investing further in the interpreter/translator program, offering professional development, increasing funding to community radio stations, and providing support to communities to deliver Indigenous language and culture programming.

Mr. Speaker, we are proud of the territory we live in, and welcome people from all cultures to visit, and hopefully stay. Multiculturalism in the North is constantly expanding and becoming more vibrant. Language is the key to thriving cultures, and supporting and revitalization efforts in partnership with language communities and key partners are critical. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Member responsible for Northwest Territories Housing Corporation.

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, affordable, quality housing is one of the foundations from which we build on to meet our other life goals. As children, healthy and safe places to live allow us to learn better, to do well in school, and help us to become successful as we grow into adulthood. Establishing stable, secure housing is a goal for most people from the time they begin to contemplate leaving their own parent's home. Over the course of our lives, from young adulthood through to becoming elderly, housing can be a concern. Many families, young and old, worry about the affordability, suitability, and adequacy of their homes. The importance of having a safe home to go to is never truly understood until someone doesn't have one. There is no denying that homeless people face many challenges, but the most urgent is where will they sleep and whether it will be safe.

It is through the lens of this continuum that we must look at housing. This multifaceted perspective also informed our approach when we reached out to users of housing programs, community and political leaders, Aboriginal governments, and residents of the Northwest Territories to gather their recommendations through the recently completed housing engagement survey.

I am happy to report that all communities contributed to the over 1,400 responses to the survey that were received. That's approximately one out of every 10 households in the Northwest Territories. Respondents were very knowledgeable and did not shy away from providing feedback on open-ended questions. There were approximately 6,000 write-in answers.

In many ways, the feedback reinforced situations that we are well aware of, for instance, that public housing is one of the most important programs offered but that improvements need to be made. Communications with tenants was noted as key to improving the program, specifically in the areas of customer service and rental counselling, which includes budgeting and maintenance courses. Homelessness was identified as a main priority, with many respondents citing the need for integrated supports offered in combination with housing. Housing for specific groups such as seniors, families, and persons with disabilities were targeted as priorities for many communities. Respondents also noted that homeownership is a critical component and lease-to-own programs by the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation need to be considered. Similarly, in market communities, many people felt that the Transitional Rent Supplement Program needs to be redesigned to be more effective to meeting the needs of the working poor. With respect to repair programs, people indicated that access to these programs needs to be improved and that there needs to be maintenance services for private homeowners in rural and remote communities.

Mr. Speaker, survey results have been compiled in a summary document. We have been using the survey to focus our efforts in the strategic renewal of the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation. Specific priority actions will be developed over the next year, with the express goals of addressing issues raised by residents and lowering core need.

At this time, we have been analyzing the survey results for nearly three months, and I am pleased to report that we are in position to announce immediate quick wins in terms of new programming and initiatives. In the near-term, some of the specific actions that we will be bringing forward include:

● An Aboriginal and local government housing innovation initiative which will enable these organizations to access support to develop and implement housing solutions of their own design.

● A targeted lease-to-own program designed to transition higher income and/or financially stable public housing tenants into homeownership, realizing homeownership goals of those tenants as well as freeing up much needed public housing for those that need it most.

● We will also be looking at repurposing vacant housing for other identified needs as identified within the community survey results.

● A new repair and renovation program is ready for implementation for seniors to support them to age in place. Repairs and renovations under this program will focus on energy-efficiency...

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Colleagues and also members from the public in the gallery, we apologize for our sound system, but apparently it is fixed now. There was a little bit of a glitch. We do have special guests in our gallery. Time is of essence as well for them, so they will be leaving us shortly. So, before we proceed with the Ministers' statements, I would like to recognize the Member for Hay River North.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I want to welcome the grade 6 class and the chaperones from Princess Alexandra School. We have with us today, Ashlyn Angiers, Addison Ehkohina-Anavilok, Joseph Mouse-Arcand, Byrin Buckley, Destiny Villeneuve-Brown, Hailey Ekotla, Alyssa Flamand, Grayson Goenewegen, Kandace Groenewegen, Kellan Mandeville, Annika Pellisey, Kynidi Robillard, Jayda Robillard, Batiste Sabourin, Michelle Sabourin, Madyson Schwartz, Simara Tambour-Wilson, my cousin Dallas Gray-Casaway, and we also have with us my constituency assistant and birthday girl, Myrtle Graham. Thank you.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Welcome to our proceedings. Happy birthday, Member for Hay River South.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, too, I want to recognize a grade 6 class and all the chaperones, J'Lynn Boyce, Belinda Chen, Jonathan Demarcke, Reese Leonard, Logan MacIntyre, Mason McPherson, Austin McArthur, Miranda Orr, Lynn-Don Proud, Seth Patterson, Stephanie Patterson, Erik Scheper, Harry Scheper, Chase Templeton, Colbey Walters, Roy Walters, and Brady Wickert. I would also like to recognize my wife in the House today and also my son, CJ. It is his birthday on Sunday.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Member for Yellowknife South.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize Bob from Hay River, who is in grade 6, and he says he is enjoying his trip to the Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Member for Yellowknife North.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is not often that we get folks coming on consecutive days, so I would like to give credit to Yellowknife North resident and NWT Teachers Association Executive Director Mr. Adrien Amirault, and I also want to acknowledge and welcome, from the Department of Education, Culture and Employment and Yellowknife North resident, Jessica Smith. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery
Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Members, colleagues, I was just giving the opportunity for Hay River constituencies to be recognized, so we still have the opportunity during the recognition of visitors in the gallery, item 5. I would like to proceed with Ministers' statements at this time. So I am going to ask the Minister of NWT Housing Corporation to continue with her statement.

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

● A new repair and renovation program is ready for implementation for seniors to support them to age in place. Repairs and renovation under this program will focus on energy efficiency to improve the cost of living for senior homeowners.

● We will be amending policy to support students who live in public housing so that their education is not impacted by housing concerns. We will also be implementing a fuel-tank replacement initiative to assist homeowners to deal with a growing risk area that represents significant environmental implications. These are some of the areas that we will be implementing in the short term.

● We are also developing new programming, new initiatives, policy changes, and research in the mid-term and long-term, as well.

Mr. Speaker, we have an opportunity now to transform the approach to housing programs and policy for possibly the next decade, making proactive changes and transforming the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation into a true social program that will have real, tangible, and positive results for our residents. I look forward to rigorous debate and examination of the proposed directions that we are contemplating.

Mr. Speaker, I want to thank all our Members who promoted the survey to their constituents. I want to thank the local housing organizations and government service officers who facilitated the filling out of the surveys in small communities, providing helpful assistance, and even translation when needed. Most importantly, I want to thank the over 1,400 respondents that took the time to seriously contemplate what is working, what is not, and what is missing, and for transferring their recommendations into the housing engagement survey. The participation in the survey clearly sent a message that affordable, quality housing is a main priority for residents in the Northwest Territories. I look forward over the next year to working with everyone in this House to design a housing system that will be enduring, responsive, effective, and appropriate for the residents of the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Justice.

Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, as Members know, the Government of Canada has made a public commitment to legalize cannabis. On April 13, 2017, the federal government introduced its proposed Cannabis Act in Parliament. The proposed Cannabis Act would set a national framework for legalizing, strictly regulating, and restricting access to cannabis. Provinces and territories will have the authority to regulate the retail distribution and sale of recreational cannabis to adults but cannot undermine the federal legislation. If passed in Parliament, the federal government intends to bring the act into effect by July 2018.

The Government of the Northwest Territories, or GNWT, wants to make sure that it is ready for cannabis legalization by having the right rules and guidelines in place to govern those aspects that will be within our power. That includes matters like determining and regulating how cannabis is distributed and sold in the Northwest Territories, or NWT, rules around age and public use, ongoing education and awareness campaigns outside those done by the federal government, drug impaired driving, and workplace impairment policies.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my Minister's statement.

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Although we have had to wait until the federal government released its legislation to fully understand the proposed framework for legalizing cannabis and what things the GNWT would be responsible for, our government was already researching this issue and monitoring developments nationally. Now that we have a more complete picture of the federal framework, we need to move forward on our own policy, program, and legislative regime.

To help guide our work, the GNWT is proposing a set of draft principles that would establish our approach to cannabis in the NWT. These draft principles include:

● Restricting youth access to cannabis, and protecting young people from the promotion or enticements to use cannabis;

● Allowing for adults to possess and access regulated, quality-controlled legal cannabis;

● Discouraging drug-impaired driving;

● Protecting workers and the public from drug-impairment in the workplace;

● Protecting public health by controlling the public smoking of cannabis;

● Enhancing public awareness of the health risks associated with cannabis;

● Providing a safe and secure retail regime for the adult purchase of cannabis; and

● Providing for local options to establish cannabis distribution and consumption restrictions and prohibitions.

We know that this is an issue that matters to many Northerners, Mr. Speaker, and about which they have concerns. Our government wants to make sure that our plans respect those concerns and take the views and opinions of NWT residents into account, while still complying with federal requirements.

To make sure we understand Northerners' views, we will be engaging with the public and stakeholders over the coming months. Our engagement will include public meetings in regional centres and select small communities. The public engagement documents will also be posted online to allow residents to make their views known through written submissions. The GNWT will also be writing directly to key stakeholders, such as NWT community governments, Aboriginal governments, the NWT Chamber of Commerce, and the NWT Medical Association, to seek their views on the proposed principles.

With a federal deadline of July 2018, we will need time to develop, draft, and pass legislation, and make other preparations, Mr. Speaker. We expect to complete this public engagement process by mid-September and to share a "what we heard" report with Members of the Legislative Assembly and the public after that. This will ensure that we have time to incorporate public feedback into our plans and proposals before bringing them forward. It should be noted that, in addition to the public engagement on proposed principles, there will be further opportunities to provide feedback as legislation is advanced.

We know this is an important issue to residents, and the GNWT is committed to having effective measures in place to protect the health and safety of NWT people and communities. We encourage everybody to take the time to let us know their views on this issue and the principles the GNWT is proposing to guide its work over the coming year.

I look forward to hearing from Northerners on this subject, Mr. Speaker, and from Members. I am sure that we will have many more discussions about how to regulate cannabis as specific plans and legislation are developed and brought forward for consideration over the fall and winter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Hay River North.

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I hear tell that, down at the Department of Infrastructure, there is something like a "swear jar." Every time anyone says "NTCL," you have to put a buck in. Although various names have been suggested for the new government entity, like "The Schumann Shipping Company" or "Bob's Baby," the official name is Marine Transportation Services, or MTS for short.

For those who don't know, the core staff at MTS is made up primarily of employees who were laid off last year when NTCL shut down, so they were able to hit the ground running. However, operating a marine shipping company is a monumental task, and there are many challenges. It is a smaller staff than NTCL employed. They had a late start because of the circumstances and those complications because of how NTCL left the operation. However, it appears that things are on schedule, and that is because of the effort and dedication of this group of employees. I want to commend them and thank them for their hard work. Mr. Speaker, take note because this doesn't happen very often, but I also have to commend the senior management responsible for this endeavour, because I know they are working just as hard to make sure that this shipping season is a success.

That being said, it is not all sunshine and roses. Residents were perturbed when they saw an ad in the paper, directing them to send their resumes to Newfoundland for a position at MTS. I have been asked repeatedly why we had to go outside of the Northwest Territories for this service. There is also the $1.3 million of NTCL's outstanding property taxes. The GNWT says it bought the assets, not the debt, and we are going to have to just suck it up, even though MACA admits they have been underfunding the town by millions. Without that money, those of us at Old Town will continue to have to drive on dirt roads for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, though, the GNWT can begin cleaning up the dozens of lots scattered throughout Old Town that are a part of the purchase.

So far, there have been over a dozen companies that have expressed interest in taking away the abandoned barges and tugs, and other piles of scrap litter in Old Town. That would beautify our community, free up land, improve prospects for tourism, and create employment and training opportunities. Despite these immediate benefits, I am told we have to wait until inventory is done, which could be years away. Mr. Speaker, these are just a few of the issues. I could go on for hours, but I will have questions for the Minister of Infrastructure at the appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife North.

Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to speak about the successful men's counseling program called A New Day. It is aimed at providing healing and offering a way forward for men who use violence in their intimate relationships.

By all accounts, from people involved with delivering the program and those receiving counselling themselves, A New Day is a success. Even with disagreement about the program's completion rate, men who participated partially reported great benefits.

A New Day has now been extended twice but will shut down in about five weeks. Although the Department of Justice issued an RFP for bids to continue operations, so far there have been zero bidders. That is because the department, in its wisdom, decided that it needed to change the terms of the counselling. In this RFP, the department changed the type of counselling offered and the way it was scheduled.

Critics of the RFP, including a former director of the Centre for Northern Families and of the Coalition Against Family Violence, said the change was "incompatible" with the program's success and that all the good work will go down the drain. But the department didn't listen to these experts, so now the program will end in a few weeks, and no one wants to sign up to continue it.

When we debated A New Day in this Assembly last fall, the question seemed to be: is it worth the cost? Only 12 men completed the whole program. Can this be worth what we spent? These questions miss the point. Family violence is an epidemic in Northern Canada. How do we measure that cost? How do we measure the cost of women being barred from safety and from free participation in public life, or the cost of children witnessing or experiencing violence at home? What does abuse and violence against women and children cost our healthcare system, and in missed work, missed school, crisis response and treatment for trauma, and, of course, men's wellness?

Mr. Speaker, A New Day took some time to find its legs, but it had become successful, making progress on one of the most difficult social problems our residents face. But the department thought it knew better than our frontline agencies. Now none of those agencies is willing to step forward to carry this important mission forward. Mr. Speaker, we need to get back to basics and work closely with those who know how to successfully deliver this program - and it needs to be sooner not later! Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Some Hon. Members

Hear! Hear!