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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Beaulieu.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It might be cheaper than flying fuel in, though.

Mr. Chairman, it is very difficult to sit here without any information at all. We don't have any information. I am asking the Minister if they have looked at something. He says they don't have to look at it. He is talking about wear and tear on the road. I think that, if you drive stuff in the winter over the highway, a gravel road driven in the wintertime can handle a lot more when the road is frozen than, obviously, the Minister realizes.

What I am saying is we should look at other possibilities, because unless the department or MTS does a proper debriefing and does better planning and does better calculations on how to deliver material and fuel into those Arctic communities, we are going to have to start looking at something else. We can't have a repeat of this. The possibility of building something that may appear costly today? I mean, it appeared costly to me when the government bought NTCL. I wasn't in favour of that, but like I said, I had no say. That is a costly thing that the government was prepared to do, but in order to make sure that they don't make the same miscalculation in the future, I am saying, take a look at that. What is the cost of that? We don't know. The Minister is not going to look at it because it's too costly, but he doesn't know what the cost is, just knows that it is going to be too costly. He thinks it is going to be damaging to the road, but if the road is frozen, it may not be.

Those are the types of things I think that the government is going to have to look at and not just say, "We didn't make a mistake. We're not listening to anyone. We are going to fly in what we can, and everything is going to be fine in the future." I think we should start to make sure that the government is looking at what they have done this year to make sure that doesn't happen again in the future. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Your time has expired. There is no one further on my list, so I will allow closing comments to Minister Schumann. Minister Schumann.

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

I am going to make it brief, but one thing I just talked to deputy what I want to do when we come in front of committee next week, I am going to find out exactly how many litres of fuel we delivered to the Arctic communities, and I am going to get a quote of how much it is to truck it to Inuvik to give committee a fair comparison on what it would cost. I think they are going to be pretty shocked.

For my closing comments, I thank all committee members for their questions. I think it is good that we have a public forum here to get this information out to the public. I need to reassure the public, when they are listening to this, that the Government of the Northwest Territories has taken the unprecedented step of buying MTS to protect the people of the Northwest Territories around delivery of fuel and goods to the communities, particularly the High Arctic. We took the unprecedented step to do that. I believe it was the right step to do, and I believe Cabinet does, and I believe most Members do.

We are operating in a very challenging environment. Some people want to put the blame on us for the commodities and goods and fuel not getting delivered this year, and I am not going to wear that. This is an unprecedented event that happened. There is a multitude of things that took place. The department is working very hard to mitigate this. We are taking the unprecedented step of flying in these things to these people so that they can get on with their lives in a cost-effective way, and I don't think you would have seen that if the private sector would have purchased this asset.

I thank committee for their questions today, and I look forward to the briefing next week. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Beaulieu.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I move that the chair rise and report progress.

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. There is a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed?

---Carried

I will rise and report progress. Sergeant-at-Arms, you may escort the witnesses from the Chamber. Thank you to the witnesses. Thank you to the Minister.

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

May I have the report, Member for Hay River North?

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 7, Chartered Professional Accountants Act, and Minister's Statement 103-18(3), Marine Transportation Services, and would like to report progress with one motion carried, that Bill 7 is ready for a third reading as amended. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Do we have a seconder? Member for Nunakput. Motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion carried.

---Carried

Masi. Item 22, third reading of bills. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.

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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Range Lake, that Bill 8, Emergency Management Act, be read for the third time. Mr. Speaker, I do request a recorded vote. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

The Member requested a recorded vote. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Question has been called. All those in favour, please stand.

Recorded Vote
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, the Member for Range Lake, the Member for Great Slave, the Member for Yellowknife South, the Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, the Member for Hay River South, the Member for Thebacha, the Member for Hay River North, the Member for Mackenzie Delta, the Member for Yellowknife North, the Member for Kam Lake, the Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh, the Member for Nahendeh, the Member for Frame Lake, the Member for Deh Cho, the Member for Nunakput.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. All those opposed, please stand. All those abstaining, please stand. The result of the recorded vote: 16 in favour, zero opposed, zero abstentions. Motion is carried.

---Carried

Third reading of bills. Mr. Clerk, item 23, orders of the day.

Orders Of The Day
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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

Orders of the day for Wednesday, October 24, 2018, 1:30 p.m.:

1. Prayer

2. Ministers' Statements

3. Members' Statements

4. Returns to Oral Questions

5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

6. Acknowledgements

7. Oral Questions

8. Written Questions

9. Returns to Written Questions

10. Replies to the Commissioner's Opening Address

11. Petitions

12. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

13. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

14. Tabling of Documents

15. Notices of Motion

16. Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

17. Motions

18. First Reading of Bills

19. Second Reading of Bills

20. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

- Minister's Statement 19-18(3), Aurora College Foundational Review Process

- Ministers Statement 103-18(3), Marine Transportation Services

- Tabled Document 215-18(3), Capital Estimates, 2019-2020

21. Report of Committee of the Whole

22. Third Reading of Bills

- Bill 7, Chartered Professional Accountants Act

23. Orders of the Day

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until Wednesday, October 24, 2018, 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 5:24 p.m.