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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We did change the title of the division to environmental stewardship and climate change, recognizing that we are going to be the lead on climate change for the Government of the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Vanthuyne.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Does that mean, then, that now the responsibilities with regard to climate change aspects that affect Infrastructure and even the Minister's other department, Finance, the direction for intergovernmental action on climate change will now come from the Department of ENR? Are we developing some kind of legislation or policy that will provide some degree of certainty for folks? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Dr. Dragon.

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Dr. Dragon

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Taking all of the comments that we got from the Auditor General, I think, again, we accepted all of those recommendations. One of the things, unfortunately, that the Auditor General couldn't speak on was any documents that were currently in the queue.

When we look at what we developed for our action plan for the Climate Change Strategic Framework, I think that we have a very robust plan that is going to be able to be shepherded through, within government, a lot of interdepartmental committees that we are going to have, a lot of reflection on what all of the various departments are able to do in the climate change portfolio.

Really, as we look at that, we also have to see how it relates to other new initiatives that are coming in, like the knowledge economy or the implementation of the knowledge agenda and how that is incorporated into climate change. I can reassure the committee that we have a number of interdepartmental committees within the bureaucracy that deal at the director level, at the ADM level, at the deputy minister level, and also at the ministerial level, where we are looking at all of the climate change impacts of what is going on in the North. I think a big part of that, as well, is really understanding that we don't have any magic bullet for climate change. We just have to approach it and really look at a real accounting of what everybody is doing. That is really in part one of our climate change action plan. I think that there are 100 different actions that are identified within that action plan for part one. In part two, there are another 50 actions that are identified within the action plan.

Again, I really look forward to being able to roll that out. I think that we are just about there, and it should be done this spring where we would have that rolled out. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Vanthuyne.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Cory Vanthuyne Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the deputy minister giving some insight as it relates to the number of interdepartmental collaborative efforts. How about the efforts in terms of also reaching out to the Indigenous government council? Is there a connective effort there as it relates to our climate change efforts? Will they have a role to play as it relates to being consulted on with regard to our climate change strategic action plan? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Recognizing the value of our Indigenous government partners through the knowledge agenda, I think that they are going to be a part of the process, and we will seek their input in any types of initiatives as we go forward. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Nothing further from Mr. Vanthuyne. Anything further to environmental stewardship and climate change? Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I hope that I have this right, because I am not working from the same page as our friends. I think there is $37,000 that has been cut out of community-based monitoring and research under the Cumulative Impact Monitoring Program. Can someone tell me why that cut has been made and what is being cut? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Dr. Dragon.

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Dr. Dragon

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, as we went through the initial reduction exercise within the department, the wording again was community-based monitoring. That title has stayed in there, but going through the functional and the operational review, we reviewed the activities and what should actually be taken out for the $375,000. That was the initial rationale for that allotment. The reality of it is that these alternative reductions identified have minimal negative impact on the departmental operations.

What we have, and I will take you through, is a series of five of them that get to that reduction. There are four within water management and monitoring, and the fifth reduction is environmental stewardship and climate change.

The $150,000 from the first one is $150,000 from water management and monitoring. This is from our grants and contributions, and it is a reduction in our contribution agreement to Mackenzie DataStream. This system is up and running now, and therefore, it no longer requires the funding that has been allocated to it. That is why we deemed it as part one of this reduction.

The second part is an $85,000 reduction in, again, water management and monitoring. This is on water research studies, and it is a reduction in contracts for data interpretations and review of water quality and quantity testing services. By using contractors, we are able to now have people in-house who are able to do this work. Again, these services will be conducted internally to promote program efficiencies.

The third one is a $75,000 reduction in environmental stewardship and climate change. This is a reduction in the contracts for updates on the information of various environmental portals and travel for meetings. One of the things that we invested in last year was video conferencing in the department. We do a lot of meetings now with our trans-boundary partners via video conferencing versus actually having to fly into the various jurisdictions.

In terms of the fourth, again, $50,000 in water management and monitoring. This is in water partnerships and agreement. Again, this is a reduction in travel. This section will utilize, again, the video conferencing equipment for negotiations in trans-boundary.

Finally, the last one of $15,000 is in water management and monitoring in water research and studies. This is a reduction in travel, and this is basically for the essential meetings and conference attendances that will be maintained. It is just being a little more particular to the conferences and meetings that we are sponsoring staff to go to. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. While I appreciate getting this level of detail now that we are in Committee of the Whole, why was this information not made available as part of the business plan, the exchange of information requests, and so on that have been going on in this Assembly since September? Why am I finding out about this now on the floor of the House in Committee of the Whole? That is probably a question for the Minister. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My understanding is that the reductions were part of the business plan. I think what may have been a little confusing is that some of the restatements that we have done may have confused it a bit. I have committed to the Member that we are going to be providing them information. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the commitment from the Minister, but that is not very helpful as I try to work my way through the rest of the main estimates in Committee of the Whole. This information can and should have been provided to us before we arrived here. I would like to know whether there are any reductions made to the Cumulative Impact Monitoring Program now, because I don't know what I am working from anymore. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

There are none.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I don't believe that the standing committee or the public has seen a formal response to the Auditor General Report on Climate Change. Is that something that the department is still working on? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am a little confused here. We may have responded to the report of the Auditor General. I know that there were a number of recommendations that were made in there, and we responded that we were acting on all of those recommendations. I will commit to the Member, because my understanding is that we did respond to that, but I will confirm that and share it with committee.