Debates of June 5th, 2019

This is page numbers 5791 - 5838 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was public.

Topics

Members Present
Prayer
Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Eileen Erasmus - NWT Education Hall of Fame Inductee
Claudia Parker - NWT Education Hall of Fame Inductee
Steve Nicoll - NWT Education Hall of Fame Inductee
Gayle Strikes With A Gun - NWT Education Hall of Fame Inductee
Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on the Review of Bill 38: Protected Areas Act - Technical Working Groups for Development of Legislation
Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on the Review of Bill 38: Protected Areas Act - Collaboration with Management Boards on Protected Areas Reporting
Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on the Review of Bill 38: Protected Areas Act - Coordination of Reports
Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on the Review of Bill 38: Protected Areas Act - Convening Regular Meetings with Stakeholders
Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on the Review of Bill 38: Protected Areas Act - Process for Development of Regulations
Bill 38: Protected Areas Act - Motion to Amend s. 10(2)
Recorded Vote
Bill 38: Protected Areas Act - Motion to Amend s. 10(6)
Recorded Vote
Bill 38: Protected Areas Act - Motion to Amend s. 98
Recorded Vote
Bill 38: Protected Areas Act - Motion No. 2 to Amend s. 98
Recorded Vote
Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Celebrating Inuvialuit Day
Update on Energy Initiatives
2019 Northwest Territories Track and Field Championships
Child and Family Services Quality Improvement Plan
Northwest Territories Carbon Tax Implementation
Committee Report 19-18(3): Review of the 2017-2018 Public Accounts of the Government of the Northwest Territories
Tabled Document 455-18(3): Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 12-18(3): Report on the Review of the 2018 Report of the Auditor General of Canada on Northwest Territories Child and Family Services
Tabled Document 456-18(3): What We Heard Report: Potential Mandatory Entry Level Training for Class 1 & 2 Drivers Tabled Document 457-18(3): Northern Housing Summit, Northern Solutions for Northern Housing: Summary Report, Inuvik, NWT April 23-24, 2019
Tabled Document 458-18(3): Report on the Staff Retention Policy for 2018-2019
Tabled Document 459-18(3): Summary of Members' Absences for the period February 5, 2019 to May 22, 2019
Bill 58: Justice Administration Statutes Amendment Act
Bill 59: Supplementary Appropriations Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 2, 2019-2020
Bill 60: Supplementary Appropriations Act (Operations Expenditures) No. 2, 2019-2020
Bill 57: An Act to Amend the Employment Standards Act
Bill 59: Supplementary Appropriations Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 2, 2019-2020
Bill 60: Supplementary Appropriations Act (Operations Expenditures) No. 2, 2019-2020
Bill 55: An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, No. 1
Bill 59: Supplementary Appropriations Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 2, 2019-2020
Bill 60: Supplementary Appropriations Act (Operations Expenditures) No. 2, 2019-2020
Orders Of The Day

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Welcome to the witnesses. I will now open the floor to general comments on the bill, if there are any. Please restrict comments more to the bill, not so much to committee travel and things like that. Do we have any general comments on bill 38? Everything has been said, I guess.

All right, committee, we will move into a clause-by-clause review of the bill. We will defer the bill and title until after consideration of the clauses. We have 101 clauses, so if committee is okay with it, I will move the clauses in groups of approximately 10. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Please turn to page 9 of the bill. I will call out the clauses. If committee agrees, please respond accordingly. Clauses 1 through 9.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

A question for clarification here. When I look through the definition here, I don't see the Deh Cho Interim Measures Agreement or the Deh Cho land use planning process here. Can the Minister explain where that part of this is? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Jenkins.

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Jenkins

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The act will refer to land use planning boards and bodies throughout, so that would capture any bodies associated with that in the Deh Cho. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. I just wanted to clarify because I didn't see it in the bill. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Clauses 1 through 9. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Clause 10. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Yes, I have some questions. I would like to start with of our witnesses, if I can. I would like to know, and this is with regard to the nomination process for identifying potential protected areas, I would like to know from the Minister's staff: what sort of time frame was required for this nomination process under the old Protected Areas Strategy? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Jenkins.

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Jenkins

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In terms of time frames that we have, with respect to nomination, there are none laid out explicitly in the bill, but it is expected that they would be done without delay. I can't speak, unfortunately, to the time frames that were used during the Protected Areas Strategy. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Okay. Can I get some understanding of how the nomination process worked under the old Protected Areas Strategy? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Jenkins.

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Jenkins

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is my understanding that there was a collaborative process that worked towards nomination of areas. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Okay. The Protected Areas Strategy, of course, was not a legislated process in any way, and what we are trying to do here is codify this process in a fairly prescriptive manner. Can the Minister tell us how long he would expect that the nomination process would take place under this bill? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Jenkins.

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Jenkins

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We would have timely decisions made. Again, they are listed. We did accept standing committee's motion to add a clause that an area nominated shall be considered by the Minister without delay. There is a process where that would be nominated, either by an Indigenous government or by the GNWT, and there is quite a process that would move forward between bringing forward a nominated area to Executive Council for their approval as a candidate area, and some of those pieces include the area being reviewed against the purpose of the act. The GNWT must discharge its duty to consult. We would need a description of the boundary sufficient for interim protection. That must be completed. We would need consent from any private land owners, and we would need to make sure that adequate interim surface and subsurface protection public land must be in place. Obviously, Mr. Chair, we would expect that this would take an amount of time into the months to be undertaken. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.